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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #2282
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    6033 backlog cases cleared in the last 5 day alone.


  • #2283
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    We still have about 3k of a backlog so haven't we?

    Nearly 6k backlog still there

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1347614114705764352/photo/1


  • #2284
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    jams100 wrote: »
    In fairness construction doesn't stop until this evening and from what I've seen its down quite alot yes more than March but in March everything including the likes of mcdonalds were closed.

    Overall I think 99% are using common sense and reducing there close contacts as much as possible

    Was just in Dublin doing groceries. People very anxious/aggro. But things are very quiet on streets and in the supermarkets. In my opinion, this is more of a lock down than in Oct/Nov. Not as quiet as March/early April but that was eerie at times.


  • #2285
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    What a disgusting world view.

    Didnt expect that rubbish posted in this thread.


  • #2286
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    completedit wrote: »
    It's not. I realise death is natural. We are at the mercy of nature and unless the CCP created the virus then a virus with flu like symptoms is a pretty normal way to go. Do you propose immortality?

    I realise death is a natural outcome of life.

    I do not propose immortality :confused:

    I propose that we as human beings, society, whatever term you like protect the vunerable among us. Even if they are close to a 'natural' end. Offer them protection and help to live and enjoy the time they have left. Our Grandparents, parents, brothers, sisters, friends.


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  • #2287
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    We're supposed to treat everything more than 5km away from us like a foreign country at the moment while letting people waltz in from other countries.

    Farcical isn't it, bolting the front door (hospitality, schools and construction) yet leaving the back door completely ajar (airports). Watch as the British and SA variants become the dominant ones in Ireland and extend the lockdown further.


  • #2288
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    I'm getting vaccinated on monday and one of the requirements is to bring my PPS number with me.

    I got the vaccine today. PPSN is how they're keeping records. Still need to hang on to your vaccine record card for the second dose.

    The nurse who gave it to me advised me to laminate it after the second dose and keep it somewhere safe, like with my passport, because we will probably need it again.


  • #2289
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    I got the vaccine today. PPSN is how they're keeping records. Still need to hang on to your vaccine record card for the second dose.

    The nurse who gave it to me advised me to laminate it after the second dose and keep it somewhere safe, like with my passport, because we will probably need it again.

    Delighted for you!


  • #2290
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    I'm getting vaccinated on monday and one of the requirements is to bring my PPS number with me.

    Just tell them your number or a document to prove your number like when you renew your license?


  • #2291
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Endintheclowns wrote: »
    I'm dumbfounded by these numbers and then seeing the amount of people out and about. I work as a truck delivery driver and in March and April the roads where virtually deserted with frequent Gardaí checkpoints now I hardly see any

    At present all I see is a small reduction in traffic and people going about their lives as normal. We need to start taking this more seriously or else we are prolonging the lockdown even further.

    Speaking of numbers, your over 100 posts in 3 days is some going for a newbie


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  • #2292
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    Nearly 6k backlog still there

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1347614114705764352/photo/1

    That looks like we are through the daily case peak.


  • #2293
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    jams100 wrote: »
    In fairness construction doesn't stop until this evening and from what I've seen its down quite alot yes more than March but in March everything including the likes of mcdonalds were closed.

    Overall I think 99% are using common sense and reducing there close contacts as much as possible

    Not all construction... big sites (Intel/FB etc) still open


  • #2294
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    What a load of bull. Australia (A COUNTRY) has a hard border between its states during the pandemic. That is nonsense. Its inaction of the EU, nothing else just cowards not able to make tough decisions.
    There was travel banned between EU countries in the first lockdown. So we can't blame the EU for that one.

    Obviously there can be exceptions made for pandemics. Like France did with the UK before they left the EU a couple of weeks ago.


  • #2295
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1347531073807409152?s=19


  • #2296
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Agree that it is difficult to police, but the Yanks and Aussies know the country of origin when people arrive at their airports.

    It’s rather simple to police, just look at the baggage tags. Or rapidly implement a reQuirement for Advanced Passenger Information. If there was a will, it could be easily done.


  • #2297
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But as this is never going away, what happens when they open up? The entire population can’t be vaccinated every year. What’s the long game here? No supporters of zero Covid can answer that

    It is
    A) throw a wall around the country in perpetuity
    B) live with the virus with as many getting vaccinated every year as possible (which realistically means the elderly, healthcare workers and the vulnerable)

    Among those countries there were procedures like extremely strict travel and quarantine laws, robust test, trace and isolate protocols, and strict lockdowns at the slightest outbreaks. None of them built a wall around their country. They just chose not to let it spread.


  • #2298
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,983 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    completedit wrote: »
    Of course, we have a vaccine and there is an end in sight but we need perspective. It's not a tragedy if somebody dies at 83. It's many things but not a tragedy. We need to make sure that their death is graceful and the scenes of Lombardy are not repeated but I am hesitant to call it a tragedy. People can say what they want. Im not saying that to be heartless, I recognise that life is valuable and the people who passed have people who love them but we can't pretend like death is something we can avoid as if it's not something that will happen to us all.

    How do you know what age any of the people who died were?
    Do you know if they have underlying conditions ?
    Do you have any idea of their mental and activity status before they caught Covid ?
    If you do let's hear it , ...


  • #2299
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    completedit wrote: »
    It's not. I realise death is natural. We are at the mercy of nature and unless the CCP created the virus then a virus with flu like symptoms is a pretty normal way to go. Do you propose immortality?

    Maybe pause to think that people with loved ones in dire situations might be reading this thread. Or maybe people who have already lost a loved one.

    You don't need to advertise every 'radical' thought you have, you know?


  • #2300
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1347609256057561094

    Hard not to see the worst case scenario soon becoming reality in English hospitals. Even cases have not yet peaked in England, never mind hospitalisations or deaths.


  • #2301
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    My understanding is they are both more contagious than Covid Original.


    In theory that should be irrelevant but because of the half arsed effort by some sections of the community it is going to be a problem sadly.


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  • #2302
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Among those countries there were procedures like extremely strict travel and quarantine laws, robust test, trace and isolate protocols, and strict lockdowns at the slightest outbreaks. None of them built a wall around their country. They just chose not to let it spread.

    You haven’t answered my question. That’s fine for this year. What about 2022, 2025, 2030? Do you suggest that this is the new normal? Because this will be in the community for the long term


  • #2303
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    theguzman wrote: »
    There is no Garda checkpoints and people have realised this.

    I’m doing Cork to Killarney daily. There’s 3 checkpoints at Ovens, Macroom and Killarney itself. These are in place since the announcement on Wednesday.


  • #2304
    Thelonious Monk
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    theguzman wrote: »
    There is no Garda checkpoints and people have realised this.

    Tbf I've seen them on the Coast road near me in Dublin the last few days. But I mean they don't even do anything, maybe their presence encourages people to stay at home though.


  • #2305
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but to say that the current restrictions aren't enough is not rational. During the first lockdown I remember that there was a weekend that there was people out at beach's etc and everyone was freaking on here. " the hospitals will be overrun" etc and it never came to pass. People need to relax and give the restrictions time to work. The damage is done from Xmas. Hospitals will be under pressure for the next couple of weeks but things will drop back.

    Russian roulette is 8 hysterical clicks and one complacent loud bang.


  • #2306
    Fly_away
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Fly_away


    Has anybody in government, even with the benefit of hindsight (ignore for a moment that people predicted this - nobody was sure to what extent cases would rise), admitted that they made a massive mistake with the opening up around Xmas and allowing households to mix?

    I think it's important for clarity sake and future communications that the government own up to this enormous error in judgment.


  • #2307
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    theguzman wrote: »
    There is no Garda checkpoints and people have realised this.

    Like "tee hee hee, look at me getting away with it like a mad yoke"?


  • #2308
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But as this is never going away, what happens when they open up? The entire population can’t be vaccinated every year. What’s the long game here? No supporters of zero Covid can answer that

    It is
    A) throw a wall around the country in perpetuity
    B) live with the virus with as many getting vaccinated every year as possible (which realistically means the elderly, healthcare workers and the vulnerable)
    Will we need to vaccinate every year? Don't we believe there's supposed to be some form of lasting immunity.


  • #2309
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Fly_away wrote: »
    Has anybody in government, even with the benefit of hindsight (ignore for a moment that people predicted this - nobody was sure to what extent cases would rise), admitted that they made a massive mistake with the opening up around Xmas and allowing households to mix?

    I think it's important for clarity sake and future communications that the government own up to this enormous error in judgment.


    The population wanted it,they got it.
    Time to move on.


  • #2310
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fair enough , reread your post and see that is what you were saying .

    However my point still stands that to all, who believe there maybe a decline .
    There isn't . Numbers are higher than announced due to lack of capacity for testing these massive numbers of asymptomatic close contacts and some are continuing to infect people nd numbers.
    Expect much higher rates of hospitalisation and ICU numbers as a result.
    I think they need to go back to getting tests sent to Germany or private labs to test close contacts otherwise we are in the dark here and who knows what way things are going .
    I think going by the amount of people even here interested in the swab data , it is such a backward step and is inexcusable after nearly a year .
    How can we plan for anything if we don't know what the true number of cases are ?

    I don't think close contact testing was stopped due to lab capacity. That is being increased all the time. It was more to do with the public health depts not being able to get through the amount of positive cases. The link with the German lab is still there if we need it.


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  • #2311
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    You really feel it was extremely bad practice from 28-30 December that the cases were so underreported.

    If people had of heard of the crazy rise in cases around then it might have changed peoples plans for those days and New Years.

    Our archaic data systems could well have cost people their lives.

    The biggest worry is that we are touching on for a year of this and they still persist we an obviously flawed process which is counterproductive to what they want to achieve.


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