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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #2162
    Goldengirl
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    Always_Running wrote: »
    174,126 tests carried out in the last 7 days. In comparison and 1 weekly example. (Monday 20 - Monday 27 April 2020) - 41,470 tests was carried out.

    Oh yes a lot more testing being done , but only on symptomatic cases , is what I mean.


  • #2163
    GreeBo
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    Always_Running wrote: »
    Yesterday 28609 tests the day before 28368. Approaching 85k tests in 72 hours is incredible amount. I still wonder what was the true case count in the spring as testing was low compared to now.

    28k is the testing capacity so it won't really ever go above that, unless we expand for some reason


  • #2164
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Numbers aren't declining!
    Testing is reduced for the last week to symptomatic cases only,and not close contacts .
    Can people not understand that this is obviously going to result in reduced numbers , but the real numbers are likely 3 times higher ?

    I think that move was over a week ago now.

    Obviously the cases are higher but a decline now is a decline relative than a few days ago.


  • #2165
    Goldengirl
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    blade1 wrote: »
    Nonchalance I suppose.

    Laissez faire :)


  • #2166
    blowitupref
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Oh yes a lot more testing being done , but only on symptomatic cases , is what I mean.

    Wasn't April was mostly symptomatic also?


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  • #2167
    Stheno
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    blowitupref wrote: »
    Wasn't April was mostly symptomatic also?

    April was chaos you had to have multiple of a few.specific symptoms to get tested


  • #2168
    Goldengirl
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    the corpo wrote: »
    My sister-in-law lives in Lewisham in London, says compliance with mask wearing and social distancing is really minimal, at best 50% of people in a supermarket might be wearing a mask.

    Part of it is the 'Keep Calm and Carry On' mentality really, head down, let's get through this as normal...

    Very sobering seeing the clip from Newsnight last night, visualising what the 78,000 UK dead might look like.

    https://twitter.com/AhirShah/status/1347337322229075968?s=20

    Jeez, that is very scary .
    Nearly all Croke Park !


  • #2169
    Goldengirl
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    Gruffalux wrote: »
    If that is so the true rate of infection will not be concealed - it will show itself in hospital stats over the next several weeks.

    Yes. It will.


  • #2170
    Wolf359f
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Numbers aren't declining!
    No offence Mohawk .
    Testing is reduced for the last week to symptomatic cases only,and not close contacts .
    Can people not understand that this is obviously going to result in reduced numbers , but the real numbers are likely 3 times higher ?

    If symptomatic cases reduce you would expect a reduction of asymptomatic spread also. Despite the myths that get peddled, the majority of infections are not asymptomatic. Also asymptomatic people would not be presenting to hospital needing admission.


  • #2171
    Thelonious Monk
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    Are people taking this lockdown seriously? Traffic is pretty much same as usual, last time the streets were quiet and there was lovely silence. Sounds quite loud out there today.


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  • #2172
    spookwoman
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    Dont know if this was ever posted but this is what we are also up against. Waterford GP

    https://twitter.com/SineadNedio78/status/1347266682763489282?s=20


  • #2173
    Goldengirl
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    We have to IMO. What will be different next year or the year after or in 10 years? Vaccine immunity does not last forever. Periodic shots will be required, possibly every year. And they won’t be given to every member of the population year on year. It will be the elderly and vulnerable who get them. Much like today’s flu jabs. We all know that COVID isn’t going anywhere. So do we do this lockdown dance forever? No, we vaccinate the vulnerable and have to get on with life. So why not start that this year, because that approach is an inevitability. Even NZ and AUS will have to ditch their zero COVID approach eventually, unless they plan to vaccinate their entire population every year, and ensure all visitors are vaccinated

    Vaccinations do not make this go away in perpetuity

    This is way more serious than flu for the umpteenth time !
    If repeat vaccinations needed it will have to be to majority of population and will need to be kept suppressed like this .
    Otherwise there is no normality as virus will be endemic in the community .


  • #2174
    Harry Palmr
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    It might get quieter from tonight with most construction ceased.


  • #2175
    um7y1h83ge06nx
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Are people taking this lockdown seriously? Traffic is pretty much same as usual, last time the streets were quiet and there was lovely silence. Sounds quite loud out there today.

    It seems quite busy here too. I'm in a Limerick sunburb at the moment. Only reason I'm here is waiting to give keys to a new tenant for a house I let. Then it's back to my place for the weekend.

    Saw a group of 10 to 12 teen-agers on bikes and plenty of cars on the road.


  • #2176
    Stheno
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    It might get quieter from tonight with most construction ceased.

    Its very quiet around me

    Normally you would struggle to get parking on the main street

    It's been deserted this past week


  • #2177
    Goldengirl
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    glasso wrote: »
    What will the plan be when the majority of people who are most likely to be hospitalised, subset to ICU and further subset who will die have been vaccinated?

    HSE is saying end February for covering over 65's in long-term care facilities

    then the other groups https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/39038-provisional-vaccine-allocation-groups

    once they get to group 5 - people aged 65 to 69 (and allow for time for vaccine to build antibodies) will it be a case of well nobody is likely to die now, just open everything up?

    No . Still under 65s with high risk conditions , essential workers who are more exposed on a daily basis ...


  • #2178
    Thelonious Monk
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    Callen Wailing Gum wrote: »
    It seems quite busy here too. I'm in a Limerick sunburb at the moment. Only reason I'm here is waiting to give keys to a new tenant for a house I let. Then it's back to my place for the weekend.

    Saw a group of 10 to 12 teen-agers on bikes and plenty of cars on the road.

    The teenage bike gangs never went away in March in Dublin either


  • #2179
    [Deleted User]
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    This is way more serious than flu for the umpteenth time !
    If repeat vaccinations needed it will have to be to majority of population and will need to be kept suppressed like this .
    Otherwise there is no normality as virus will be endemic in the community .

    It will be endemic in the community. With the vulnerable vaccinated. That’s just how it will end up being, or we fundamentally change our entire way of life.


  • #2180
    The Inbetween is mine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    It might get quieter from tonight with most construction ceased.

    Construction has had no impact on the numbers we have seen over the last 14 days


  • #2181
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    His point was true and rational . Not hysterical .
    Your point is as usual inaccurate and down playing .
    What's the opposite of hysteria ? Complacent ?

    I'm sorry but to say that the current restrictions aren't enough is not rational. During the first lockdown I remember that there was a weekend that there was people out at beach's etc and everyone was freaking on here. " the hospitals will be overrun" etc and it never came to pass. People need to relax and give the restrictions time to work. The damage is done from Xmas. Hospitals will be under pressure for the next couple of weeks but things will drop back.


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  • #2182
    Goldengirl
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    Wolf359f wrote: »
    If symptomatic cases reduce you would expect a reduction of asymptomatic spread also. Despite the myths that get peddled, the majority of infections are not asymptomatic. Also asymptomatic people would not be presenting to hospital needing admission.

    Until they are not , but transpires were PRE symptomatic.
    Also the fact that close contacts who may or may not be asymptomatic are not being tested is a disincentive to many to properly isolate .
    Try telling a twenty year old who has no symptoms but is notified as a close contact and told to restrict his movements for 14 days from contact ,
    Some will , more won't .
    At least a positive test focused the mind on the seriousness of it and the risks posed to others in the family at very least .
    I know they have reached capacity testing , that is not my point .
    My point is there is a lot more infection out there than 6500 cases so it is way too early to start talking about decline in cases.


  • #2183
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but to say that the current restrictions aren't enough is not rational. During the first lockdown I remember that there was a weekend that there was people out at beach's etc and everyone was freaking on here. " the hospitals will be overrun" etc and it never came to pass. People need to relax and give the restrictions time to work. The damage is done from Xmas. Hospitals will be under pressure for the next couple of weeks but things will drop back.

    Want a job?

    I think the HSE should be recruiting someone to ring people with important operations cancelled and explain that it will pass and all will be well.

    Hospitals weren't overrun because we cut to the bone in terms of services operated.


  • #2184
    kilkenny31
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    The teenage bike gangs never went away in March in Dublin either

    And we still got things under control so forget about them. The vast majority will abide by the measures and thing will come under control.


  • #2185
    Goldengirl
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It will be endemic in the community. With the vulnerable vaccinated. That’s just how it will end up being, or we fundamentally change our entire way of life.

    Yes . But the amount of younger people sick in hospital with this is quite significant atm.
    Imagine if there were no restrictions , all the time and no real guarantee of herd immunity .
    There would be no schools open, that's for sure !


  • #2186
    prunudo
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Yes you can get a test at the moment if you are symptomatic.

    Thats good, at least we should still be catching the majority of positive cases. Wasn't 100% sure what the criteria for getting a test was at present.


  • #2187
    d51984
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    And we still got things under control so forget about them. The vast majority will abide by the measures and thing will come under control.

    Cut their parents social welfare.. Problem solved.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • #2188
    lawred2
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes . But the amount of younger people sick in hospital with this is quite significant atm.
    Imagine if there were no restrictions , all the time and no real guarantee of herd immunity .
    There would be no schools open, that's for sure !

    Is it?


  • #2189
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Want a job?

    I think the HSE should be recruiting someone to ring people with important operations cancelled and explain that it will pass and all will be well.

    Hospitals weren't overrun because we cut to the bone in terms of services operated.

    Yes but that was caused by the spread of the infection before restrictions. The lockdowm worked in March. Even though there was a lot of people out and about.

    The restrictions will work now.


  • #2190
    Goldengirl
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but to say that the current restrictions aren't enough is not rational. During the first lockdown I remember that there was a weekend that there was people out at beach's etc and everyone was freaking on here. " the hospitals will be overrun" etc and it never came to pass. People need to relax and give the restrictions time to work. The damage is done from Xmas. Hospitals will be under pressure for the next couple of weeks but things will drop back.

    Who said current restrictions weren't enough ?
    I have not said anything of the sort .
    I know all about the hospital pressure. Maybe none in Kilkenny , but where I work is manic atm .
    And likely to get worse over the next few weeks and stay bad for another month to six weeks.
    Don't patronise me , and don't tell me what you think I or others need to do .


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  • #2191
    is_that_so
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    https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1347597560203128844


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