Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

hotmail.com · 08-01-2021 02:57PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

something that hotmail.com has overlooked is that while CNN made a mistake, and every news source does, they also admitted that mistake as soon as they were aware of it and made a retraction. that is the action of a reputable news source

I didn't overlook that, one of my posts said that.

hotmail.com · 08-01-2021 02:59PM

jamule wrote: »

jaysus lads can you stop feeding this clown. His counting is Trumpesque

So more than 300 people entered the building?

Kaybaykwah · 08-01-2021 03:00PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Wasnt that just a statement by an anonymous Whitehouse "insiders", So as usual no proof he actually said it.

On to another point.
As far as the protestors go and it is unfortunate there was any violence as that always needs to be condemned but at least they seemed to be mostly peaceful protests, When I first saw some of the footage it seemed like the whole thing was chaos but infact most of it was like the video below, More like an occupy protest than anything else.

If this had been a BLM/Antifa protest all those statues would have been pulled down and based on their usual MO the place would have be set on fire.

If it had been a BLM protest, none of them would have made it past the steps, much less scaled the walls and pushed their way through broken doors and windows. The MAGA mob were treated like tourists in a time share they partly owned.

everlast75 · 08-01-2021 03:00PM

More good news.

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1347536805793566720?s=19

rossie1977 · 08-01-2021 03:01PM

valoren wrote: »

"Benedict Pence is Judas. Mitt Pence. Mike McCain. Weasel. Weakling. Quitter. Coward. Democrats' new bitch. He's not 1/100th the man Donald Trump is. He should sign up for a free Obamacare sex change. The conservative right in America needed him to step up and fight with the President. Instead he backed down, put his tail between his legs and slithered off to hide under a rock and lick his own pussy. I don't ever want to see his face again"

A disturbing insight into what a radicalised Trump supporter thinks about Pence.

Actually a real person

https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1347380108559060992

Professor Moriarty · 08-01-2021 03:02PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Actually a real person

https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1347380108559060992

Better than Lincoln. Of course.

seamus · 08-01-2021 03:02PM

valoren wrote: »

"Benedict Pence is Judas. Mitt Pence. Mike McCain. Weasel. Weakling. Quitter. Coward. Democrats' new bitch. He's not 1/100th the man Donald Trump is. He should sign up for a free Obamacare sex change. The conservative right in America needed him to step up and fight with the President. Instead he backed down, put his tail between his legs and slithered off to hide under a rock and lick his own pussy. I don't ever want to see his face again"

A disturbing insight into what a radicalised Trump supporter thinks about Pence.

Most of these people are lunatics.

But some are genuinely deranged. Given Trumps speech today that was clearly written for him and read in protest, it won't be long until there's a belief that the deep state has "gotten to" Trump. That's either by coercion, or by removing and replacing him with a lookalike. Which for some could lead them to believe that Trump has to be removed for the good of QAnon.

Remember that for them there is no limit to what they will invent to protect their belief.

The Raging Bile Duct · 08-01-2021 03:05PM

It still baffles me on a daily basis the adoration that those people hold Trump in.

Chris_Heilong · 08-01-2021 03:06PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

If this had been BLM there wouldn't have been bombs.

Is it standard practice to bring bombs to a peaceful protest?

Why wouldnt there be? They have used Molotov cocktails before and so dont seem avert to explosives.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

have you decided to ignore all the other videos available that show protestors breaking windows, thrashing offices and stealing a lecturn?

As I said already in my post "When I first saw some of the footage it seemed like the whole thing was chaos" You are sort of making my point for me that most of the footage being shown is the breaking window clips and such but not as much footage of what the rest of the majority of the protestors were doing.

duploelabs · 08-01-2021 03:08PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If you are actively suicidal for whatever reason you are deemed to be psychiatrically unwell.

So 'dying for your country' (as termed by the military) isn't actively suicidal?!?!?

briany · 08-01-2021 03:08PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

It still baffles me on a daily basis the adoration that those people hold Trump in.

The 2007 sci-fi movie 'The Signal' comes to mind, as well as the more recent Birdbox. People suffering a mass delusion/psychosis.

donspeekinglesh · 08-01-2021 03:08PM

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

For potentially criminal speech, certainly an individual would find it hard to identify anonymous/pseudonymous individuals but not necessarily law enforcement.

From a defamation point of view, it's actually quite easy to get a court order (at least from my experience in CA) to compel intermediaries and/or hosts to disclose ISPs and thereafter for ISPs to identify the lessor of the ISP once a John/Jane Doe defamation case is brought.

Absolutely. Law breaking speech is unlikely to be protected and so anonymity can be overturned. But general anonymity (particularly for criticising the government) is well protected.

Overheal · 08-01-2021 03:09PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Wasnt that just a statement by an anonymous Whitehouse "insiders", So as usual no proof he actually said it.

On to another point.
As far as the protestors go and it is unfortunate there was any violence as that always needs to be condemned but at least they seemed to be mostly peaceful protests, When I first saw some of the footage it seemed like the whole thing was chaos but infact most of it was like the video below, More like an occupy protest than anything else.

If this had been a BLM/Antifa protest all those statues would have been pulled down and based on their usual MO the place would have be set on fire.

Deny! Deflect! Distract!

Overheal · 08-01-2021 03:10PM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Doesn't look good but it's possible the cop in that clip is encouraging another cop to hurry up.

Shhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

FreudianSlippers · 08-01-2021 03:11PM

duploelabs wrote: »

No i would not agree whatsoever.

Mainly due in part to the strength of radicalization, indoctrination, and in the social media world, the strength of the bubble created by those platforms by the algorithms
For example you tube will say 'oh you like this jihadist, then maybe you'll like this one', and that's not discounting the proliferation of the Sinclair network that has overtaken local news in the states.

Have a watch, if you haven't already, of The Social Dilemma on netfix

Yet you have failed to provide your definition, so I can only assume it's one from that Netflix film which I'm not going to watch right now.

ohnonotgmail · 08-01-2021 03:12PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Why wouldnt there be? They have used Molotov cocktails before and so dont seem avert to explosives.

As I said already in my post "When I first saw some of the footage it seemed like the whole thing was chaos" You are sort of making my point for me that most of the footage being shown is the breaking window clips and such but not as much footage of what the rest of the majority of the protestors were doing.

the whole thing was chaos. the rest of the world think what happened was totally unacceptable but you keep on as if it was totally normal. That loyalty to trump is impressive. Dumb, but impressive.

The Raging Bile Duct · 08-01-2021 03:13PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

As I said already in my post "When I first saw some of the footage it seemed like the whole thing was chaos" You are sort of making my point for me that most of the footage being shown is the breaking window clips and such but not as much footage of what the rest of the majority of the protestors were doing.

But I think many of us feel that those defending the violent thugs are just miss guided and if we can keep showing them the truth and make them see someone would have to be a really evil type of person knowing all the facts and still supporting them then they might come around and finally do the right thing and denounce Trump.

ohnonotgmail · 08-01-2021 03:13PM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Doesn't look good but it's possible the cop in that clip is encouraging another cop to hurry up.

JFC.

FreudianSlippers · 08-01-2021 03:13PM

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

Absolutely. Law breaking speech is unlikely to be protected and so anonymity can be overturned. But general anonymity (particularly for criticising the government) is well protected.

I'm just saying I wouldn't necessarily go as far as saying what you said as it gives an absolutely false impression of the protections (or lack thereof) of anonymous / pseudonymous internet posters.

namloc1980 · 08-01-2021 03:18PM

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$1.3 BILLION! You just love to see it.

Overheal · 08-01-2021 03:18PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

JFC.

Sure didn't tell anybody they were trespassing!

Donald Trump · 08-01-2021 03:19PM

What.Now wrote: »

Donald Trump wrote: »

You are applying logic to what is, for an awful lot of otherwise logical people, an illogical decision that they make based purely on the "team" they support.

I am. voting is a logical process.

Lets take a look at the states. You have 2 candidates. You want one of the two to be be elected so you vote for that person.

So lets say you decide to vote for Trump

Following on from that, what would make you do that?

You Like one him
- He has helped you out in the past
- he has helped your family out in the past
- he is good for your community
- he is implementing the policies for the country that you believe that should be implemented
- He wants to **** up your neighbour that you don't like

You Dislike one candidate (Biden)
- Because he worked under a Black president?
- Because he's a commie?
- Because what?

If they follow the logic they move away from voting Republican for just this election like the Dems did under Regan (Which I think was a disaster, but might not have been the start of this decrepit part of history), if not they are Trumpers.

If Republicans can't see the difference between Republicans and Trumpers than they are Trumpers

As I said, you might not really appreciate the reality of how a lot of these (otherwise apparently normal) people work - as stupid and illogical as they might seem.

There are people who will vote Republican from an "anything but democrat" angle. They don't necessarily love Trump (who was a registered Democrat at one stage!). They might have preferred to have a different Republican, but no matter what he did, they would always always always choose the one with the Republican badge over any Democrat.

That is neither an excuse nor a justification. I'm just explaining the unfortunate reality of the situation.

It would be a little bit like your buddy trying to justify some player on the team he supports doing something terrible on the pitch. He'll stick up for him because he's under the badge of that team.

Overheal · 08-01-2021 03:19PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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$1.3 BILLION! You just love to see it.

Ironically she will argue that's an inflated number

Overheal · 08-01-2021 03:20PM

https://twitter.com/ErinMcPike/status/1347385707166380033?s=20

I don't think he will, of course. Who would walk away a week into a 6 year tenure? Just because you nearly ushered in the collapse of the Republic! Pfft!

VinLieger · 08-01-2021 03:23PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

That is neither an excuse nor a justification. I'm just explaining the unfortunate reality of the situation.

The real unfortunate reality of the situation is the vast majority of these people wanted that 2k cheque and yet they cannot understand why Mitch wont give it to them even though hes told them time and again hes against social protection.

They also support the kind of healthcare reform Bernie has proposed if it is put as having come out of a GOP mouth.

joe40 · 08-01-2021 03:23PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Wasnt that just a statement by an anonymous Whitehouse "insiders", So as usual no proof he actually said it.

On to another point.
As far as the protestors go and it is unfortunate there was any violence as that always needs to be condemned but at least they seemed to be mostly peaceful protests, When I first saw some of the footage it seemed like the whole thing was chaos but infact most of it was like the video below, More like an occupy protest than anything else.

If this had been a BLM/Antifa protest all those statues would have been pulled down and based on their usual MO the place would have be set on fire.

If that was a BLM protest there would be armed police/soldiers shooting live ammo before they would be allowed to storm the senate.

Gunmonkey · 08-01-2021 03:24PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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$1.3 BILLION! You just love to see it.

Ooooohhhh can see another round of "We nneds your monies plz!!!" emails coming from the "Elite Strike Force"......or has she been thrown to the wolves by Trump and on her own since she failed (in a totally out of character move by him, mind)?

ancapailldorcha · 08-01-2021 03:26PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

If this had been a BLM/Antifa protest all those statues would have been pulled down and based on their usual MO the place would have be set on fire.

More concern for plaster monoliths which were in no danger than fascists trying to obstruct democracy. Conservatism in a nutshell.

ohnonotgmail · 08-01-2021 03:27PM

joe40 wrote: »

If that was a BLM protest there would be armed police/soldiers shooting live ammo before they would be allowed to storm the senate.

they wouldn't have reached the bottom of the steps.

Overheal · 08-01-2021 03:28PM

Such courage! Such swift accountability!

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1347529127822286849?s=20

I ****ing can't understand. Help me understand. Why does the cabinet need a week. Why does Congress think impeachment would be more successful with just 6 or 7 days left in the term?

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