Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

sydthebeat · 07-01-2021 10:12PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

All trumps fault

Faugheen · 07-01-2021 10:12PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

She stormed Capitol Hill as part of a coup to overturn a democratic election.

That is the definition of a domestic terrorist.

But hey, 'both sides'...

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 10:13PM

What happened at the Capitol was the worst thing to happen in the sh1t soup that was the Trump presidency - an assault on an already fragile democracy.

What is vital now is that this is a watershed and people forgo their base instinct for retribution.

America is a powder keg and cool heads must prevail.

My fear is this;

1. Trump was a symptom of the broken American system - Joe Biden is that system - 50 years worth.

2. Big Tech versus the president was a circus - Big Tech as a supporter of the president is a much more scary prospect.

Professor Moriarty · 07-01-2021 10:14PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

What would you call an insurgent violently breaking into breaking into Capitol Hill?

DrumSteve · 07-01-2021 10:15PM

Faugheen wrote: »

He has been slated all around for his part in this.

If you think people are going to let Hawley away with it then you're deluded, in my opinion.

Trumpists vote for Trump, nobody else. Every election where Trump is not on the ballot, Republican turnout plummets regardless of his endorsements.

4 years is a long time in politics.

And i'll hold out on seeing any incriminations of Hawley; I see very little if any blowback on him for this. Sure look at the interviews of the people protesting, they think they are in the right. And there are a lot of people in that mindset.

ohnonotgmail · 07-01-2021 10:16PM

cnocbui wrote: »

He can't pardon himself because of a previous legal ruling that a judge can not sit in judgement of their own actions, or so I have read.

It is assumed by some that he cant self-pardon because of that judgement. That is only an assumption and has not been tested in court. I'm not sure the dems have the stomach to take it to the supreme court to test it.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 10:16PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

Bush called Islam peace.

Bush called terrorists terrorists.

Billy Mays · 07-01-2021 10:17PM

nullzero wrote: »

Hunter Bidens Dad was instrumental in bringing in those laws (1994 crime Bill).

Correct

Big black mark against Joe for sure

BoroMan32 · 07-01-2021 10:17PM

What.Now wrote: »

They need to do something to keep him occupied for two weeks. They should play his own game and charge Ivanka and Jr for incitement to hatred and make up some treason **** and lay it on him.

Just throw crap at him every day to do with his family, keep it away from him until after he leaves which will keep him occupied and those around him occupied and moves him further from looking at what chaos he can do.

They need to drive him into a 'controlled' madness. It's time to own the agenda.

Turn off your PS5 and go out and get some fresh air.

Billy Mays · 07-01-2021 10:17PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

Interesting angle...

Foxtrol · 07-01-2021 10:20PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

What happened at the Capitol was the worst thing to happen in the sh1t soup that was the Trump presidency - an assault on an already fragile democracy.

What is vital now is that this is a watershed and people forgo their base instinct for retribution.

America is a powder keg and cool heads must prevail.

My fear is this;

1. Trump was a symptom of the broken American system - Joe Biden is that system - 50 years worth.

2. Big Tech versus the president was a circus - Big Tech as a supporter of the president is a much more scary prospect.

If by 'retribution' you mean holding the white terrorists and those politicians and civilians that conspired to create the decision then I strongly disagree.

'Going high' is what got us in this mess from the day Trump started to run. The lack of accountability is how things escalated to the point of yesterday.

07-01-2021 10:20PM

BoroMan32 wrote: »

Turn off your PS5 and go out and get some fresh air.

What a silly comment. But then again looking at your posting history on this thread I shouldn't be surprised.

jmayo · 07-01-2021 10:21PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

What happened in Washington DC yesterday evening - as farcical and comical as it might have looked at times - was a very serious threat to the fundamental democratic institutions the USA is built upon.

...
The Republican Party will be in meltdown, and rightly so. Getting into bed with Trump and his acolytes will be the biggest error of judgement they ever made.

The republican party has been a sick puppy for quite a while and the influence of the like of those bast***s the Kochs and indeed Murdoch.
The sooner the ones still living kick the bucket the better for mankind.

Foxtrol wrote: »

They absolutely wrecked the place, trashing offices, smashing and stealing everything in sight (aside from your precious artwork).

https://twitter.com/alizaslav/status/1347033165764972551?s=20

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1347273071963435008?s=19

Law and Order President.

****ing low life criminal.

Trump can try pardon himself, he could get Pence to do it if he was impeached, but it won't save him when some if some of the DAs he had sacked go back into their jobs, especially in New York where they can build cases against him and his spawn.

They had cases against the kids before, but they kicked them to touch.
No coincidence the DA had gotten a political contribution, although he handed it back when it became public who had given it to him.

The Trumps have amassed so many enemies and have been so toxic and insulting to a lot of top Republicans that so many will want revenge and to see the family destroyed and out of politics.

Also the Dept of Justice staff and FBI staff all saw how their leaders were treated and what they got landed with by Trump.

Sonics2k · 07-01-2021 10:22PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

terrorism
/ˈtɛrərɪzəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"

I mean, he's not wrong.

Faugheen · 07-01-2021 10:25PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

4 years is a long time in politics.

And i'll hold out on seeing any incriminations of Hawley; I see very little if any blowback on him for this. Sure look at the interviews of the people protesting, they think they are in the right. And there are a lot of people in that mindset.

I think you are completely downplaying what has happened here.

If Hawley is in the 2024 ticket, then expect the Democrats to mobilise their base, and remind the independents of what Hawley did. This is never going away for him.

Also, and I'll say it again, Trumpists vote for Trump. The 2018 mid-terms and the Georgia Senate runoffs show exactly what happens when Trump is not on the ballot.

Necro · 07-01-2021 10:26PM

BoroMan32 wrote: »

Turn off your PS5 and go out and get some fresh air.

Deleted User wrote: »

What a silly comment. But then again looking at your posting history on this thread I shouldn't be surprised.

Mod:

Both of you cop on and post civilly or your posting privileges will be removed from this thread

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 10:26PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

If by 'retribution' you mean holding the white terrorists and those politicians and civilians that conspired to create the decision then I strongly disagree.

'Going high' is what got us in this mess from the day Trump started to run. The lack of accountability is how things escalated to the point of yesterday.

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful. We need to move back to de-racialising public discourse. I am much more aware of race now than i was in say 2001 and that's sad. We've gone backwards. When I say "retribution" i don't mean holding criminals to account, I mean seeking to further alienate and punish people of a different political stripe and/or cultural & socioeconomic circumstances.

ohnonotgmail · 07-01-2021 10:28PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful. We need to move back to de-racialising public discourse. I am much more aware of race now than i was in say 2001 and that's sad. We've gone backwards. When I say "retribution" i don't mean holding criminals to account, I mean seeking to further alienate and punish people of a different political stripe and/or cultural & socioeconomic circumstances.

they were terrorists. they were white.

jill_valentine · 07-01-2021 10:28PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful.

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 10:29PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they were terrorists. they were white.

Fair enough.

07-01-2021 10:30PM

Remember when John Mccain was forced by the GOP to pick Sarah Palin as his VP running mate in 2008 to appease the growing tea party wing of the GOP? That's the real starting point of all this. Add in increased broadband and mobile internet access across rural America aswell as cheap smartphones and more responsive social media sites and you have the tea party mutating into the QAnon clowns we see before our eyes nowadays. The Obama birther movement was just the prototype of the nutty conspiracy wing of the GOP voterbase. Now we've got 45% of GOP voters who believe an election was stolen despite all the evidence in front of them.

Mccain originally wanted Kasich as his VP. If he stood his ground he might have actually swayed the moderate Republicans to stop trying to appease the fringe group within the party.

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 10:30PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Cant argue with that!

So long as we're consistent in pointing out the racial backgrounds of terrorists/criminals..

jmayo · 07-01-2021 10:31PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

If by 'retribution' you mean holding the white terrorists and those politicians and civilians that conspired to create the decision then I strongly disagree.

'Going high' is what got us in this mess from the day Trump started to run. The lack of accountability is how things escalated to the point of yesterday.

Making this about race is absolutely the worse thing to do.

And it is probably what Trump would absolutely love.
It is one of the fears he can play on.

And I would bet you would like the same type of discussion here on some reason happenings. :rolleyes:

duploelabs · 07-01-2021 10:33PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they were terrorists. they were white.

I do find it ironic on an Irish website that someone thinks terrorists can't be white

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 10:33PM

duploelabs wrote: »

I do find it ironic on an Irish website that someone thinks terrorists can't be white

Who thinks that?

Faugheen · 07-01-2021 10:34PM

jmayo wrote: »

Making this about race is absolutely the worse thing to do.

And it is probably what Trump would absolutely love.
It is one of the fears he can play on.

And I would bet you would like the same type of discussion here on some reason happenings. :rolleyes:

Or you can just call it what it is.

Foxtrol · 07-01-2021 10:37PM

jmayo wrote: »

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

Plenty of furniture smashed when it wasn't being used to make barricades to keep out terrorists.

As for the lack of fires, it wasn't for the lack of bringing to tools - two bombs and 11 Molotov cocktails.

Sure keep downplaying it all the same.

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1347041126197428226?s=20

07-01-2021 10:38PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

Biden would have a lot more Intel about her background than we do. I'm sure he made sure his comments are well backed up.

Dressoutlet · 07-01-2021 10:38PM

jmayo wrote: »

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

I'm sorry but I think you're forgetting they left literal bombs around the place.

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 10:39PM

https://twitter.com/RepKarenBass/status/1347190699763134468?s=19

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