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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #1532
    Plumbthedepths
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    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    If the insight and views of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care and a pharmacist are less than, what kind of commentary is acceptable?

    Only positive?

    Hancock doesn’t know what immunity that the various vaccines may offer, it’s strange that someone who professes to being a pharmacist would share such musings from a politician.


  • #1533
    shinzon
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    Is there a presser this evening

    Shin


  • #1534
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Marty Bird wrote: »
    I had a look at the 2019 flu season report from HPSC I couldn’t believe that in that Flu season there was over 2500 cases in hospital and 116 in critical care beds crazy numbers even back then.

    Worth a look to see comparisons between flu and covid on ICU beds in London. Be interesting to see a comparison with here:

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1347200855376875523


  • #1535
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    shinzon wrote: »
    Is there a presser this evening

    Shin

    Yes, 6ish


  • #1536
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    shinzon wrote: »
    Is there a presser this evening

    Shin

    TH getting his story straight with MM/LV and Norma


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  • #1537
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,206 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Over 700 Gardai out with Covid19 in ROI
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1538
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah no-one has ever explained that. How can a country who have such an appalling human rights record do everything in their significant power to stamp out this mediocre virus?

    China may a totalitarian horror show but the government (I think?) do want to offer improving standard of living & the whole Western consumerist 1st world "good life" to the citizens (without any political/social freedoms).
    Staying in power may depend on them doing that.

    Having modern healthcare systems collapse all across the country accompanied by by a very large number of deaths would not have been a very good look for competence and ability of CCP to deliver on their promises and a massive threat to their rule so (after Wuhan) they responded accordingly.

    Seems like so long ago, but before the virus really started to hammer the West there was alot of speculation that public reaction/anger in China could be volatile & damage the CCP badly.

    As for it being a "mediocre" virus it has been bad enough to f-ck Europe + the US unfortunately.


  • #1539
    lawrencesummers
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    Is it possible with the lack of close contact testing unless symptomatic that the case number would be more accurate it we applied the R value to it?


    While the cases are extremely high, is it the case that they are actually a lot higher??


  • #1540
    Plumbthedepths
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    UK researchers have found two more drugs which can help in the treatment of Covid.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55574662


  • #1541
    [Deleted User]
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Definitely need to discourage vaccine hesitancy but not sure what that will achieve tbh

    Bizarrely in Ireland the same people who seem to be the lockdown deniers are also those who say that they would not take a vaccine

    Ginger McWilliams had an Israeli behavioural economist guy on his podcast saying that they were considering incentives in Israel like

    - if you don't opt to get it then you you must inform your employer and children's school

    - give restaurants etc discretion to refuse admittance if refused vaccine


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  • #1542
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    So a bit of analysis of where we are. Its still bad but we are likely near the peak of infections now. The HSE's worst case scenario is 400 in intensive care which i imagine won't come to pass but if it does we should just about have capacity if private hospitals step up. The main concern will probably not be life threatening illness it will he the people who require some additional support like oxygen. This is what will stretch the hospitals.


  • #1543
    Plumbthedepths
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    glasso wrote: »
    Bizarrely in Ireland the same people who seem to be the lockdown deniers are also those who say that they would not take a vaccine

    Ginger McWilliams had an Israeli behavioural economist guy on his podcast saying that they were considering incentives in Israel like

    - if you don't opt to get it then you you must inform your employer and children's school

    - give restaurants etc discretion to refuse admittance if refused vaccine

    No GDPR considerations in Israel.


  • #1544
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,862 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    So a bit of analysis of where we are. Its still bad but we are likely near the peak of infections now. The HSE's worst case scenario is 400 in intensive care which i imagine won't come to pass but if it does we should just about have capacity if private hospitals step up. The main concern will probably not be life threatening illness it will he the people who require some additional support like oxygen. This is what will stretch the hospitals.



    Thats not analysis.

    Thats opinion


  • #1545
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    They do. They know they have absolute control over their citizens. They know they can take whatever steps they deem necessary without giving any thought to civil liberties.

    To what end? Strange that the evil dictatorship is preventing a public health crisis. Here we have amazing civl liberties but because a minority think it's their right do whatever they want and exasperate a public health crisis, our kids can't go to school.

    It's weird.


  • #1546
    igCorcaigh
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    So a bit of analysis of where we are. Its still bad but we are likely near the peak of infections now. The HSE's worst case scenario is 400 in intensive care which i imagine won't come to pass but if it does we should just about have capacity if private hospitals step up. The main concern will probably not be life threatening illness it will he the people who require some additional support like oxygen. This is what will stretch the hospitals.

    It'll be staffing levels I think.


  • #1547
    [Deleted User]
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    UK researchers have found two more drugs which can help in the treatment of Covid.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55574662

    hopefully can be used in Ireland

    reduces mortality and time in ICU


  • #1548
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Norma's kamikaze plan may be scuppered.

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1347244897124888576?s=20


  • #1549
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    glasso wrote: »
    Bizarrely in Ireland the same people who seem to be the lockdown deniers are also those who say that they would not take a vaccine

    Ginger McWilliams had an Israeli behavioural economist guy on his podcast saying that they were considering incentives in Israel like

    - if you don't opt to get it then you you must inform your employer and children's school

    - give restaurants etc discretion to refuse admittance if refused vaccine

    I will take the vaccine as soon as I can get it. In the 18-54 healthy group so Im actually thinking I wont get it early enough to travel abroad before next August.

    When would it be fair to put these restrictions in place? It just isnt going to work till everyone has access.


  • #1550
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Over 700 Gardai out with Covid19 in ROI
    This is what I don’t understand, why are all front like staff not getting the vaccine first ?
    Surely we need the emergency services and with out them country can’t function. No guards no ambulance crews leaves a dangerous situation.


  • #1551
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    glasso wrote: »
    Bizarrely in Ireland the same people who seem to be the lockdown deniers are also those who say that they would not take a vaccine

    Not bizarre at all really. Well, if you look at it terms of pure logic, yes, it's bizarre - but it's all rooted in a bedrock of anti-science, conspiracy thinking.


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  • #1552
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I was working in one of the hospitals yesterday(not a health worker) and I'm been honest it was very quiet.

    A and E was empty and lot of staff standing around casually talking.

    Now I'm not saying it's like that in all hospitals but RTE and the media are painting a picture of chaos and people running around in a panic in the hospitals.

    Just a bit of balance is fair when reporting.


  • #1553
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    So a bit of analysis of where we are. Its still bad but we are likely near the peak of infections now. The HSE's worst case scenario is 400 in intensive care which i imagine won't come to pass but if it does we should just about have capacity if private hospitals step up. The main concern will probably not be life threatening illness it will he the people who require some additional support like oxygen. This is what will stretch the hospitals.

    Assuming non covid health care isn't needed?


  • #1554
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    A lot of that is just speculation

    The GAA didn't even allow the cups into the dressing rooms after the matches

    The teams were at pains to say people should behave and celebrate responsibly

    We had a poster here who blamed the spike in Cork on winning a final which didn't happen

    Limerick cases in particular have a lot to do with people returning home in December for Christmas, many of whom are living in the UK for the majority of the year

    Some of those antics were videod and on social media on Christmas day
    Newry GAA is being asked to explain why there were gatherings taking place.

    Just on RTÉ news now.


  • #1555
    Pcgamer
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    glasso wrote: »
    Bizarrely in Ireland the same people who seem to be the lockdown deniers are also those who say that they would not take a vaccine

    Ginger McWilliams had an Israeli behavioural economist guy on his podcast saying that they were considering incentives in Israel like

    - if you don't opt to get it then you you must inform your employer and children's school

    - give restaurants etc discretion to refuse admittance if refused vaccine

    If a young healthy fit doesn't take the vacinne I'm not sure what difference is makes?

    You can still pass on virus cant you even with the vacinne?


  • #1556
    [Deleted User]
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Hancock doesn’t know what immunity that the various vaccines may offer, it’s strange that someone who professes to being a pharmacist would share such musings from a politician.

    Why is it strange? It's slightly worrying, the cost of a mRNA vaccine to be given every 6-12 months would be astronomical.

    Maybe, read a bit more. Pharmacoeconomics is important;)


  • #1557
    xabi
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    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    Derry GAA is being asked to explain why there were gatherings taking place.

    Just on RTÉ news now.

    Down


  • #1558
    risteard7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I was working in one of the hospitals yesterday(not a health worker) and I'm been honest it was very quiet.

    A and E was empty and lot of staff standing around casually talking.

    Now I'm not saying it's like that in all hospitals but RTE and the media are painting a picture of chaos and people ruining around in a panic in the hospitals.

    Just a bit of balance is fair when reporting.

    Yes absolutely, it's the exact same in the one I work in. More staff than patients in ED is fairly regular. But people just dont want to believe it.


  • #1559
    Plumbthedepths
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    harr wrote: »
    This is what I don’t understand, why are all front like staff not getting the vaccine first ?
    Surely we need the emergency services and with out them country can’t function. No guards no ambulance crews leaves a dangerous situation.

    Not all frontline want to take the vaccine.


  • #1560
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I was working in one of the hospitals yesterday(not a health worker) and I'm been honest it was very quiet.

    A and E was empty and lot of staff standing around casually talking.

    Now I'm not saying it's like that in all hospitals but RTE and the media are painting a picture of chaos and people running around in a panic in the hospitals.

    Just a bit of balance is fair when reporting.


    Not aware of any reports saying A and E overwhelmed here or that "people are running around in panic"

    In the interest of accuracy do you have a link? Otherwise looks like another straw man argument.


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  • #1561
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    risteard7 wrote: »
    Yes absolutely, it's the exact same in the one I work in. More staff than patients in ED is fairly regular. But people just dont want to believe it.

    I actually couldn't believe it as I was expecting madness and carnage after listening to the news.

    Pleasantly surprised they seemed to have it under control and didn't look in anyway worried.


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