Battlefield 2042

dreamers75 · 06-11-2020 3:23pm #1

The next Battlefield game is slated to launch in holiday 2021 and will boast “never-before-seen scale”. That’s according to EA CEO Andrew Wilson, who recently shared a good deal of tasty info on the publisher’s upcoming releases.

“The technical advancements of the new consoles are allowing the team to deliver on a true next-gen vision for the franchise”, shared Wilson in prepared remarks for the company’s latest earnings call. “We have hands-on play testing underway internally, and the team’s been getting very positive feedback on the game as we’ve begun to engage our community.” More info won’t arrive until the spring, but it’s still nice to hear that the Battlefield 6 release date isn’t too far off.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/battlefield-6/launch-date

** edit title when actual game and actual info released.

BlitzKrieg · 11-11-2020 11:11am

At least they are not repeating BF4's mistake and trying to put it out as a launch title for new generation.

Korvanica · 24-12-2020 6:29pm

Looking forward to see how they **** this up...

NikoleJennes · 07-01-2021 6:49pm

People are still playing battlefield? Interested in it, I bought a new pc, looking for some multiplayer shooters

Spear · 07-01-2021 7:22pm

NikoleJennes wrote: »

People are still playing battlefield? Interested in it, I bought a new pc, looking for some multiplayer shooters

Star Wars Battlefront 2 is free on the Epic Store next week. It's not a pure Battlefield, but it's fairly close.

The Red · 08-01-2021 10:05am

Hey guys, thought id pop back in here after a long time of being absent. I was on here back in the BF3/4 days. (well the other threads obv) great to see hype rising for the new BF. Heres hoping its a step back to the great days of Battlefield!

- Sirinava

Dcully · 10-01-2021 5:10pm

NikoleJennes wrote: »

People are still playing battlefield? Interested in it, I bought a new pc, looking for some multiplayer shooters

Hell let loose , early access game developing all the time but already fantastic with very big numbers playing regularly.

dreamers75 · 03-02-2021 4:24pm

Official announcement in the spring (via earnings call)

Here’s a summary of the info shared by EA today.
It will take full advantage of next-gen consoles
Feature more players than ever before
Takes franchise to the next level
Reveal coming in Spring 2021
Release set for Holiday 2021

There are a few games now with 100 players (Squad, WW3, HLL and lol Arma 3)

With varying degrees of success all of those games bar WW3 require comms and umm a 100 players.

dreamers75 · 25-02-2021 12:35am

Some dude was suspended on twitter and removed this information from a tweet.

Battlefield 6 will return to modern warfare
BF6 will be a 'soft reboot of the series'
BF6 will be heavily inspired by BF3
BF6 may simply be called "Battlefield"
BF6 will feature up to 128 players on PC and Next Gen consoles
BF6 will feature "next-gen" destruction that will take the destruction to the next level

dreamers75 · 25-02-2021 12:49pm

Context on the "some dude"

https://www.gamesradar.com/battlefield-6-leaker-has-twitter-account-suspended-after-sharing-rumours/

A prominent leaker who shared speculation about Battlefield 6 had their Twitter account suspended, as well as being forced to remove all related videos from YouTube.

Tom Henderson, who has previously leaked information online about Call of Duty games and, more recently, Battlefield 6, has spoken out after having his Twitter account suspended, seemingly in relation to information he shared about EA's upcoming shooter.

Blazer · 01-03-2021 4:12pm

BF6..please god it goes back to the BF2/BF3/BC2 days and I'll sell my xbox series x in a heartbeat and go back to pc.

Spear · 01-03-2021 8:54pm

https://www.polygon.com/2021/3/1/22307226/battlefield-6-release-date-need-for-speed-2021-delayed-ea-dice-criterion-codemasters

EA have reportedly delayed the next Need for Speed, to put Criterion on BF6 to assist. I don't know if this is a good or a bad sign. I would hope that it means enough devs and manpower to avoid the usual buggy mess that BF releases so often are.

Spear · 22-04-2021 2:49pm

EA will be releasing some solid info soon it seems:

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-franchise-update-oskar-gabrielson?utm_campaign=bf_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_tw-bf-update-oskar-gabrielson&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=68369&ts=1619099151921

Titzon Toast · 25-04-2021 9:54pm

This will be the game that gets me hunting for a PS5. I hope it lives up to the hype.

26-04-2021 12:54am

Hopefully its not released for the last consoles as that pandering with BF4 really limited the game on the newer consoles.

BlitzKrieg · 26-04-2021 1:03am

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Hopefully its not released for the last consoles as that pandering with BF4 really limited the game on the newer consoles.

pushing BF4 so it was practically a launch title for the xbox one and ps4 crippled bf4 at launch.

It's a good thing they've given it a year at least this time. So either yeah it wont go to the old consoles or at the very least more time with the new consoles mean its better optimized.

I cant think of many things the new consoles are offering outside of a visual upgrade that will hamper this title hitting the prior generation?

Unless we actually believe EA on it being something genuinely groundbreaking?

Blazer · 30-04-2021 1:54pm

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

pushing BF4 so it was practically a launch title for the xbox one and ps4 crippled bf4 at launch.

It's a good thing they've given it a year at least this time. So either yeah it wont go to the old consoles or at the very least more time with the new consoles mean its better optimized.

I cant think of many things the new consoles are offering outside of a visual upgrade that will hamper this title hitting the prior generation?

Unless we actually believe EA on it being something genuinely groundbreaking?

Apart from faster SSD technology, faster cpu , major graphics update?
BF6 shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the last gen.

BlitzKrieg · 30-04-2021 2:05pm

Blazer wrote: »

Apart from faster SSD technology, faster cpu , major graphics update?
BF6 shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the last gen.

again until I hear them actually doing something to take advantage of those aspects *OUTSIDE OF GRAPHICS* and probably load times I again dont see the issue with it appearing on older consoles if they've been given the time to optimize.

Battlefield 5 was one of the first games to take advantage of RTX and yeah with an RTX compatible pc it sure looks a lot prettier and loads really fast with a good ssd then any of the console versions

but it still plays the same game.

The difference between 360 vs xbox one was much more pronounced, the 360 couldnt support 64 player matches, the xbox one could. There was an actual practical difference between the generations which is a big part of why doing a prior generation port of bf4 felt like such a terrible waste of time and resources for its rushed development.

If BF6 is announced to be doing something genuinely different technology wise with its next entry that would be borderline difficult to impossible on the last generation of consoles, then hell yeah it should be exclusive to new generation of consoles. But if the changes are primarily going to be cosmetic and design choices then I dont see any issue with doing a last gen port.

We currently no nothing outside of EA hype

so the question remains Do you believe EA hype?

Titzon Toast · 01-05-2021 9:17am

I could be very wrong here, but was it not already confirmed somewhere that it was only getting released on next gen consoles? Please tell me it was.

Spear · 01-05-2021 11:51am

Titzon Toast wrote: »

I could be very wrong here, but was it not already confirmed somewhere that it was only getting released on next gen consoles? Please tell me it was.

They haven't confirmed any details, and didn't make any claims about the choice of consoles for release. Others have, e.g. Stalker 2 is only PS5/Series X, but nothing about BF6 so far.

BlitzKrieg · 01-05-2021 12:28pm

All we've officially seen of BF6 is some animation tests that used BFV models as the base at an EA show 2 years ago at this point?

Everything else has been rumored or incredibly vague statements from EA at investors calls or interviews. Only the most recent offering us something as concrete as there will be multiple new modes. But that's from EA, not DICE and I'd like to think we've all learnt to not trust what EA says.

Everybody has convinced themselves that it's going to be the first 128 player Battlefield and it could be, but until I see it from DICE I'll be cautious (mostly because most attempts at doing 128 player games have not really worked in the past, a few titles hold on but nothing outstanding, the sweet spot atm for milsims like SQUAD and Hell Let Loose is 95 - 100). So it could in the end turn out there is no 128 player mode and instead it's still the standard 64 player but a bunch of new modes.

Or it could be a 100 other things from DICE being forced to chase after Warzone to them being allowed to their own thing, we don't know anything at the moment and until we get details we dont know if being on last gen as well will hold it back or not.

dreamers75 · 01-05-2021 11:28pm

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

All we've officially seen of BF6 is some animation tests that used BFV models as the base at an EA show 2 years ago at this point?

Everything else has been rumored or incredibly vague statements from EA at investors calls or interviews. Only the most recent offering us something as concrete as there will be multiple new modes. But that's from EA, not DICE and I'd like to think we've all learnt to not trust what EA says.

Everybody has convinced themselves that it's going to be the first 128 player Battlefield and it could be, but until I see it from DICE I'll be cautious (mostly because most attempts at doing 128 player games have not really worked in the past, a few titles hold on but nothing outstanding, the sweet spot atm for milsims like SQUAD and Hell Let Loose is 95 - 100). So it could in the end turn out there is no 128 player mode and instead it's still the standard 64 player but a bunch of new modes.

Or it could be a 100 other things from DICE being forced to chase after Warzone to them being allowed to their own thing, we don't know anything at the moment and until we get details we dont know if being on last gen as well will hold it back or not.

Alright.....

Spear · 02-05-2021 2:05am

Leaked images have appeared from an upcoming trailer:

https://imgur.com/a/upPvtTY

It seems to confirm that previously claimed Tanegashima launch facility.

Homelander · 03-05-2021 2:38pm

Not really sure how anyone could say that visual upgrades are the only difference between next-gen and last-gen versions.

You are basically talking the equivalent of a very low-clocked FX-8150 in the last gen consoles, versus a Ryzen 3600 in the newer ones. Not to mention how long in the tooth they are getting anyway even from a graphics POV.

Just because the player count doesn't change, doesn't mean it's not a lot more demanding on both CPU and GPU. There are PC's out there that can run BF4 64 conquest at 60fps, but would struggle to hit 20-30fps in BF1.

As game engines get more advanced, they put more strain on everything, not just graphics capability. Sometimes we see awful, lazy ports like the infamous Black Ops 3 for 360/PS3, when a much better job could've easily been done.

But mostly decisions are made to stick with "next gen" only because too much compromise is required to cater for the previous gen even if the result is a perfectly competent game.

Panic Stations · 04-05-2021 12:01pm

Can't wait for this new Battlefield.

The last 2 were good but didn't have a patch on BF4 so hoping the fact that they're going back to the modern era we will see some interesting new developments.

I've been playing some BF1 as of late. Getting very salty with Warzone these days and it's a nice change of pace.

Panic Stations · 05-05-2021 11:22am

Good shout.

Honestly, it's a completely different game I feel.

Still some very good numbers playing bf4 on all platforms.

I sometimes jump back into it on PC and for a 5er you can't go wrong.

Spear · 05-05-2021 3:04pm

Xgemone wrote: »

BF 6? maybe is a rebranding bf4?

That's a placeholder title, rumours are that they'll simply call it Battlefield. Somewhere in the world is a marketing committee that must have huffed a lot of glue to think that was a good idea.

dreamers75 · 05-05-2021 4:51pm

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Everybody laughed at COD 2019 being called 'Modern Warfare' but once you play the story you realise that it's a genius title. Although with Battlefield I'm less confident since there hasn't been a good Battlefield campaign since Bad Company 2.

What is this tacked on poorly made mode you speak off?

Battlefield is 64 player Conquest, everything else is an addon

:pac::D.

Homelander · 05-05-2021 5:20pm

I could be remembering wrong but I thought the BF3, BF4 and Hardline campaigns were sort of passable entertainment.

Only played a bit of BF1 and all of BFV, found both a bit painful despite the amazing visuals.

Dcully · 06-05-2021 12:19pm

I fully expect yet another unremarkable BF game, Dice havent made a decent map in a decade[except Amiens in BF1 :P] not to mention a good game.
Slight exaggeration but im not convinced they can deliver i pray im totally wrong.

Homelander · 06-05-2021 1:09pm

There was a few decent maps in BFV. I think a few of them actually came much later though, the base maps were fairly generic and uninspired I would agree.

I think BF1 was a great game. Loved that one. It had real atmosphere and a proper sense of identity. Even though I've now put more time into BFV, I think it's a far inferior and more generic game overall even if it has some better mechanics.

Arras, Iwo Jima, Provence, Solomon Islands, Mercury were all fairly good and I enjoyed playing them....but a lot of the other maps I often used to just stop playing when they cropped up.

The pacific campaign maps for BFV showed more the potential the game could have had from launch but it was far too late at this stage. At launch it barely even felt like a WW2 game.

You know something's really wrong when studios with far less resources than DICE create vastly superior maps for WW2 games like Hell let Loose or Enlisted.

Panic Stations · 06-05-2021 1:42pm

I don't think I've ever played a battlefield campaign except for Bad Company 2. I have MW and still haven't played the campaign on it.

As long as BF6 has a strong multiplayer I'll be happy. I'll also probably try to pick it up on Day 1 too.

Glico Man · 06-05-2021 2:16pm

Dcully wrote: »

I fully expect yet another unremarkable BF game, Dice havent made a decent map in a decade[except Amiens in BF1 :P] not to mention a good game.
Slight exaggeration but im not convinced they can deliver i pray im totally wrong.

Thought every map I played on BF1 or BF5 were boring tbh. All of my favourite maps come from previous games. Mashtuur City, Karkand, Seine Crossing, Gulf of Oman, Caspian Border, Guilin Peaks and Zavod.

Could just be the power of nostalgia, but there's nothing memorable about the more recent games

Dcully · 06-05-2021 2:46pm

Homelander wrote: »

You know something's really wrong when studios with far less resources than DICE create vastly superior maps for WW2 games like Hell let Loose or Enlisted.

Spot on, both games have really great maps.
HLL in particular every single maps is fantastic.

Blazer · 06-05-2021 2:52pm

Battlefield has basically sucked since BF3.
While BF3 was no BF2 or BC2 it was still a great MP experience.
This whole focus on SP mode should be done away it...BF was and always should be MP focussed.
BF1 was awful muck, grand for hopping on for an hour but never got the thrills of BF2/BC2 or even BF3.
BF5 was even worse....bland boring as hell and it was obvious DICE didn't give a crap about it.

If they really want a battlefield hit remake BC2 in a modern engine and don't touch anything in it.. even drop the SP mode.
It would be a massive hit.

Dcully · 06-05-2021 3:17pm

Agree BF and single player is a waste of resources.

BlitzKrieg · 06-05-2021 9:00pm

You know something's really wrong when studios with far less resources than DICE create vastly superior maps for WW2 games like Hell let Loose or Enlisted.

Wont speak for Hell let loose. But Enlisted is built on top of the work of War Thunder and Cuisine Royal (I think it's now called Cursed or something)

and war thunder itself was built on the resources of Birds of steel

which itself was built on the resources of Il 2 Birds of prey.

Smaller companies may not have as much resources but they tend to be a lot more efficient with what they have. Which can be both a blessing and a curse.

Post Scriptum (the WW2 game with the best multi crew tank combat) is similar built on top of Squad which is well known to be made by the team behind the project reality mod for battlefield 2.

It's a blessing because if you've played squad, post scriptum is fairly quick to pick up, it's a curse in that a lot of the problems of squad, post scriptum inherits. beyond the wire (the new ww1 shooter) has a similar situation.

Same with enlisted, it inherits a lot of issues from war thunder and cuisine royale. Which is probably why I'm surprised you mention map design as one of enlisted's strengths, as I would have marked it as one of the weakest aspects of the game.

Spear · 07-05-2021 2:40pm

The audio for the trailer has leaked:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/n6k43i/bf6_trailer_audio_leaked_confirmed/

It doesn't give away much at all.

BlitzKrieg · 07-05-2021 3:09pm

it gives a lot more weight to the tom henderson leaks with what sounds like a rocket at the end.

Unless the *confirmed* is that tom henderson confirmed it which puts this all in snake eating its own tail territory.

not proving it's fake but the dialogue doesnt match henderson's claim (he says Hold back, the audio is pull back) also the audio appears to come from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOYWbxrlGko at 00:35

but using audio like that is not unheard of, even in a trailer for a multi million project. It could even just be scratch audio for during the editing process while final recording is done.

Spear · 07-05-2021 3:15pm

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

it gives a lot more weight to the tom henderson leaks with what sounds like a rocket at the end.

Unless the *confirmed* is that tom henderson confirmed it which puts this all in snake eating its own tail territory.

Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of that Tom Henderson account. Back when I did some small work for EA, there weren't exactly conveniently labelled files called secretbf6railer.mp4 for anyone to randomly discover. Every file object was labelled with their project codename, Havana, White Shark etc etc. So the leaker is either a member of the media who'd have early access and selling them out for attention, or it's Dice/EA astroturfing themselves.

BlitzKrieg · 07-05-2021 4:40pm

More audio popping up as from other sources, this time films.

So either its again a wip scratch audio or fake.

Spear · 07-05-2021 4:46pm

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

More audio popping up as from other sources, this time films.

So either its again a wip scratch audio or fake.

I saw, it had been described as an early prototype of the trailer audio, but that sounds more like an ass covering attempt to help it pass off as legit in retrospect.

BlitzKrieg · 08-05-2021 1:21am

Spear wrote: »

I saw, it had been described as an early prototype of the trailer audio, but that sounds more like an ass covering attempt to help it pass off as legit in retrospect.

You know I'm kicking myself as I should have realised this all much earlier.

all the material being leaked is Previs work.

Henderson got the material from a Previs studio not DICE itself.

The third floor did a bunch of previs for EA and if you look at their work and the quality of the leaked stuff it does match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w06Tf_2yq0U

Also they would use a bunch of scratch audio like this (I should know I worked for them) so it lines up a lot better then any of this being a leak from DICE

Dcully · 08-05-2021 12:35pm

Same with enlisted, it inherits a lot of issues from war thunder and cuisine royale. Which is probably why I'm surprised you mention map design as one of enlisted's strengths, as I would have marked it as one of the weakest aspects of the game.

Possibly so but still a lot better than efforts from Dice.

dreamers75 · 08-05-2021 8:36pm

Dcully wrote: »

Possibly so but still a lot better than efforts from Dice.

I dont understand this, I played BFV and BF1 and there is some amazing maps in there, the BF map design is not geometry like COD, its more large scale because stuff in the sky can kill you and the building you are in can be destroyed.

Squad, HLL have flat canvases they are not "maps" for games but partially 3d generated maps of actual areas which function well in the game (very well in HLL)

never played Enlisted, did enjoy Cuisine Royale but more for the armour than the actual game.

BlitzKrieg · 09-05-2021 12:08am

I am kinda confused on the enlisted has good maps position. Enlisted doesnt have great maps at all. They're very functional at most. But I'd put that down to Enlisted leaning very heavily on it's mechanics to push the game, because of the whole squad system enlisted tends to have more open maps to allow for easier AI pathing, there is a lot less sense of a design to its layout as the game fully expects you to throw bodies at objectives. There is a very poor sense of pace to a lot of the enlisted maps. And there's nothing particularly interesting and some of the maps on the 1940 campaign are painfully small. I'd say ones enjoyment of Enlisted is much more tied to how much you like the game's unique mechanics then it's map design.

Hell Let Loose I've only played a few maps, but I do have a serious dislike for their d-day map, there's just something about how it's laid out that I struggle with. But their Hurtgen Forest map and one other who's name I am drawing a blank on I really enjoyed.

Post Scriptum has visually terrible looking maps for most of it's initial run, some of the normandy maps and french 1940 maps look good, but most of the original market garden maps have a horrible amateur look to them. But functionally they work for the most part.

Of the ww2 shooters out there, Post Scriptum would be my pick just because I think it has the best tank combat, but I am getting why Hell let loose is popular. Enlisted was fun for a week and a bit, but it's free to play model is grinding my gears so I've kinda checked out on that one.

Dcully · 09-05-2021 5:10pm

HLL has superior infantry combat to post scriptum that's why it's so popular I reckon.
Im bored of enlisted now to be honest.
The more I played past 20 hours or so the more shallow it became.

BlitzKrieg · 09-05-2021 5:24pm

Dcully wrote: »

HLL has superior infantry combat to post scriptum that's why it's so popular I reckon.

Yeah I think thats why post scriptum is doing a big tank rework next patch, I think they'll push that more to the front and doubling down on being #1 for tank crew gameplay.

honestly I'd be all over tank focused spin off from post scriptum, but judging by how much more popular HLL is with infantry I feel like I'd be in the minority for that.

Will_I_Regret · 12-05-2021 9:01am

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Is this what losing an erection feels like?

EA confirmed Battlefield 6 will be cross gen.

**** sake. All that panic to get a Series X...

BlitzKrieg · 12-05-2021 9:42am

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Is this what losing an erection feels like?

EA confirmed Battlefield 6 will be cross gen.

so that likely puts a damper on the 128 player matches theory

Akrasia · 18-05-2021 7:11pm

bf2 modern combat ps2 vs ps3, basically two entirely different games that shared almost no assets but still called itself cross gen

They've done it before, and as a Ps2 user who didn't upgrade to a xbox 360 for years afterwards, I was really glad they did because the PS2 version, was really really fun, even though technically inferior to the next gen title

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