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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    I'm confused too. Are there many solely social housing developments being built? I thought most (at least in Dublin, maybe its different elsewhere) social housing was the 10 percent or whatever allocated from private developments?

    one of FFs big campaign promises was to build a hedgeload of social housing and that's currently underway :o


    disclaimer: i hate FF, it's the social housing that is getting the smiley face not them


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    A lot of cities bylaws have rules banning the outside consumption of alcohol.

    That can be enforced on the people drinking takeaway pints in the street.

    License laws too. Someone gets a drink from a pub acting as an off license and drinks it within 100 metres of the pub.

    The pub is in breach of licensing laws and is closed and fined.

    Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even if so, nobody socialising so it shouldn't be easy to spread. Within 14 days or so of restrictions the vast majority of people are not in the line of fire.

    If the R0 of the the variant +0.7 of the covid back in March. Then the lockdown measures back then wouldn't be enough to contain the variant strain. +0.7 is a worse case scenario.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Regarding a neg test coming back could the govt stop you comong back in to the country either way ?

    I’m assuming you’re an Irish citizen in my response. The government cannot stop you returning you would be required to self isolate . However the airline you will be using may require proof of a vaccination or neg test before departure. Personally the cost of tests if you can’t get vaccinated are a small price to pay to escape to the sun for a few weeks.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Arghus wrote: »
    It is a bit comical looking, but he's the first person I've seen in any briefing acknowledge and thank the interpreter, which is a nice thing to do at the end of the day.

    Is she Chinese? Or Irish? His greeting would presumably depend on that, so I'm guessing/hoping he knows her.
    Feels like a bit of very poor impromptu virtue signalling/pc carry on though.

    Hazel Chu was born here. I can't imagine someone bowing to her but maybe I'm not up to date on etiquette.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    Jaysus. The country near brought to a standstill and some people still not happy. “But what about the drink and other things I personally don’t like!?” Not everything has to be banned at once. Can’t we just see how we get on with what they’ve announced tonight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

    It’s all about giving people less of a reason to leave home tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Em. I'm the 'her'.

    :D

    Sorry my mistake.:eek: Then don't let him get away! :pac:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is what is at stake with the new variant. We are taking unnecessary risk with Schools. Its crazy. Need logical decision making

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1346899021621813249

    this means it's kind of like how it was at the beginning where if one country ****s up it ****s it up for the whole world, we need to get rid of this strain. But also better than last year because we didn't know back then, it was already outside of China by the time it was given a name and already everywhere by the time we realized it was outside of China


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

    I've seen relatively large crowds supping pints happily.. it definitely doesn't help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

    I think it's more the social gathering. 3 people stand together drinking. They finish and separate and hug each other. It would be better to ban hugging in public but much harder to enforce.
    Belt wrote: »
    We shouldnt need everyone vaccinated. Once those over 65, the vulnerable and frontline workers are vaccinated, we should be opening things back up. The low levels of ICUs and deaths would not justify keeping society lockdown.

    There will be some level of restrictions until the majority is vaccinated but I doubt we will see level 5 again after April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Is she Chinese? Or Irish? His greeting would presumably depend on that, so I'm guessing/hoping he knows her.
    Feels like a bit of very poor impromptu virtue signalling/pc carry on though.

    Hazel Chu was born here. I can't imagine someone bowing to her but maybe I'm not up to date on etiquette.


    Are you talking about a sign language interpreter? Surely if you speak ISL or Gaeilge fluently you are Irish.. I can't imagine going to the trouble of learning an indigenous language if you are over on a 9 month student visa with no intention of staying

    I know 2 people who immigrated here who speak Irish fluently and they are both here for keeps so they're Irish... hmmmm I wonder if they identify as Irish.. how long does it take before it becomes part of your identity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,098 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Are they just keeping the LC going because of the absolute mess Norma Foley made of last years LC grading system?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Daisy000


    Mike3549 wrote: »
    Tell me which manufacturing co employs more than 400 in one shift, without Social Distancing, or masks?

    Trillion $ company that’s a hint
    A distance between myself and my coworker is less than a meter... oh yes we wear masks some better than others....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    George Lee currently climaxing on RTE 1

    I thought his head was about to explode


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I thought his head was about to explode


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    He looks especially deranged there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Given how high community transmission and extant virus is right now, given we are just beginning a more serious lockdown which will take time to have an effect, given variant B1.1.7 accounts for 25% and rising of our rampant infection, given B1.1.7 is 50 -70% more transmissable and harder to contain via lockdowns, given the hospitals are already seeing quite a few sick people and the staff are tired and fewer, I find myself unusually dispirited today. Perhaps sobered is the word. I hope we can turn things around without it all going too bad. I really do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    I thought his head was about to explode


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    He's saying

    "STFU repeating yourself Norma. The schools are not bleedin safe!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    I thought his head was about to explode


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    Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?

    Its about three seconds prior


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Given how high community transmission and extant virus is right now, given we are just beginning a more serious lockdown which will take time to have an effect, given variant B1.1.7 accounts for 25% and rising of our rampant infection, given B1.1.7 is 50 -70% more transmissable and harder to contain via lockdowns, given the hospitals are already seeing quite a few sick people and the staff are tired and fewer, I find myself unusually dispirited today. Perhaps sobered is the word. I hope we can turn things around without it all going too bad. I really do.

    It's awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Given how high community transmission and extant virus is right now, given we are just beginning a more serious lockdown which will take time to have an effect, given variant B1.1.7 accounts for 25% and rising of our rampant infection, given B1.1.7 is 50 -70% more transmissable and harder to contain via lockdowns, given the hospitals are already seeing quite a few sick people and the staff are tired and fewer, I find myself unusually dispirited today. Perhaps sobered is the word. I hope we can turn things around without it all going too bad. I really do.

    I think a hard lockdown will suppress it. London has never really had that. Ro dropping below 1 with schools open that happened in October will probably never be possible again however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Even if so, nobody socialising so it shouldn't be easy to spread. Within 14 days or so of restrictions the vast majority of people are not in the line of fire.

    Was thinking similar myself. Total cases shouldn’t really matter that much. For arguments sake let’s say everyone goes into their houses for 2 weeks and nobody leaves. It still passes throughout the household so it could in theory take n infection cycles where “n” is the number of people that live in the house. But the avg household size probably hasn’t changed dramatically since March so in theory it should burn thru in same amount of time.

    Having said that, obviously people leave their houses but those more likely to leave to work in essential services are also likely to be the same people that were out and about, with good reason to be, in March. Healthcare, supermarket workers, etc. Lots of the cases in the first two waves would be skewed towards those that moved around more though, so perhaps there’s some low level of immunity to help in our favour, from either previous infection or, eventually, some vaccine cover which hopefully will take effect even 2 weeks after dose 1.

    I don’t know the answers to any of this, more thinking aloud here, but interesting all the same. Obviously the more transmissible strain changes things, but there are a few variables to it all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    In the last hour alone I've heard of 2 different people in their 50's who have died of Covid both based in Dublin. One a GP who was self isolating in his bedroom and didn't make it to the morning.

    Please people all jokes aside look after yourselves as I think we are entering a very dangerous stage of the pandemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?

    Both I think although you'd have to pan down to find out and nobody wants to to that. :eek:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?

    Can we put in a FOI request to Mrs Lee?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    I think we have to be as optimistic as we can.

    No point in dwelling too much on what we should have/could have done differently. Lessons have been learnt so the priority now is to turn the situation around.

    It will take at least 2 weeks for the current situation to subside, probably 3 given how more rapidly it appears to be to be spreading. Then we will most likely have a period of stabilising before any reductions.

    Then we have the vaccine role out, a large amount of people who have had it and unlikely yo get it again plus the added benefit of better weather where meeting outdoors where it's less like to spread will help too.

    It will get worse before better so I that realistically it will be 3 weeks before any signs of positive progress will emerge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭Upstream


    What's the standard treatment for people who are hospitalised in Ireland with Covid-19?
    Is there a treatment protocol?
    Are they given Vitamin D, Vitamin C or Zinc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,853 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    growleaves wrote: »
    No they don't
    From the article referenced

    ”Another piece of early research ( https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.14.20212555v1.full.pdf )(awaiting peer review) suggests that SARS-CoV-2 could also have a long-term impact on people's organs. But the profile of those affected in this study is different to those reporting symptoms via the app.

    This research, which looked at a sample of 200 patients who had recovered from Covid-19, found mild organ impairment in 32% of people's hearts, 33% of people's lungs and 12% of people's kidneys. Multiple organ damage was found in 25% of patients."

    If you have something more substantial than a pantomime "Oh no they don't" response I'm willing to give it critical consideration.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,881 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I think we have to be as optimistic as we can.

    No point in dwelling too much on what we should have/could have done differently. Lessons have been learnt so the priority now is to turn the situation around.

    It will take at least 2 weeks for the current situation to subside, probably 3 given how more rapidly it appears to be to be spreading. Then we will most likely have a period of stabilising before any reductions.

    Then we have the vaccine role out, a large amount of people who have had it and unlikely yo get it again plus the added benefit of better weather where meeting outdoors where it's less like to spread will help too.

    It will get worse before better so I that realistically it will be 3 weeks before any signs of positive progress will emerge.

    Can you imagine what kind of hole we'd be if the vaccine wasn't due for another year or more, as some predicted?:eek:


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