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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #632
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Terrible numbers.

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1346824348167000067

    Difference from yesterday.

    8466 extra tests carried out has produced 2435 more positive swabs.

    Going on the last few days where more cases was reported than positive swabs I'd expected between 7,000 to 8,000 cases confirmed this evening.


  • #633
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,314 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    emo72 wrote: »
    I knows it's a fast moving situation. Does anyone know if the likes of b and q are staying open.

    Will be open as far as a know, considered essential.

    Item 3 should apply...
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-5/


  • #634
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    I know it would take massive organization but every student is studying a good few subjects that aren't relevant to their future career, could we drop everyone down to 4 subjects, A-level style, so that they all had much less to do and missing this month (and months last year) wouldn't make a difference to them


    The increasing move towards understanding education as a means to prepare for a narrow job spec in later life is a bad idea. Lots of students have no idea what they want to be in their later years, as well as lots of students who will work in areas different to where they thought they would be working.


  • #635
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You think Covid was the only threat to a person with CF?
    It's immensely bigger risk for somebody with CF when the health service is collapsed due to a pandemic versus if they caught something like a flu during the normal course of things. Especially due to the unknowns in how this will impact individuals.

    Don't you think that people who have underlying conditions should have access to education or something? Weird hill to die on.


  • #636
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    The increasing move towards understanding education as a means to prepare for a narrow job spec in later life is a bad idea. Lots of students have no idea what they want to be in their later years, as well as lots of students who will work in areas different to where they thought they would be working.

    Oh absolutely it's a terrible idea in general. Absolutely against it. But for this batch of leaving cert students it might be preferable to putting them, their teachers, and our hospitals at risk?

    Plus the stress of it this year: 7 exam subjects + 2 or 3 non-exam subjects + less time in class with teachers + less time with friends + a pandemic

    The stress of it! I can't imagine. I dropped one subject myself for the leaving and just did the 6 exam ones + the others and the time gained from dropping one subject was absolutely massive and made a huge difference to me. I didn't realize it at the time because I thought I was very old and wise but I was still reeling from a bereavement and taking a bit off my plate really helped me


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  • #637
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    I have been watching the press conference - they keep saying that schools ARE safe, I would say that they WERE. The basic conditions surrounding school opening have changed, much higher transmission in the community and it is far easier to catch the virus now.

    The evidence and subsequent argument that they are putting forward now, is out of date. We have no evidence to say how schools perform in these new circumstances. The INTO issued a statement while the minister was still at the podium talking about the heroic commitment of all involved in the process, to say that the plan is 'rushed and reckless'. It will be interesting to see what happens next week when they are due to open.

    The evidence they are acting on, is for different circumstances. If it fails, they will just wriggle out of it by saying it was the best evidence available at the time. I bet the defense press release is written already.


  • #638
    Stheno
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    Does anyone know when non essential retail such as Vodafone has to close?


  • #639
    rafi bomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭rafi bomb


    They mentioned fines and imprisonment a couple of minutes ago. Didnt catch what it was in relation to?


  • #640
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    At a time when hospitals are buckling as hospitalisations and ICU admissions increase, why take the risk.. we have very little wiggle room at the moment, delay this decision as a matter of common sense.
    Oh I agree, no need for it at all.
    GreeBo wrote: »
    I don't think you can figure too much out from positivity rates when the criteria for performing tests are so arbitrary and we are testing a statistically small number
    The criteria are fairly clear tbh, but you're not wrong that we should be careful about assuming anything about these numbers.

    The one thing we do know is that it's a selection of the infected. So if the swabs numbers drop, it logically follows that the actual number of infected is dropping too.


  • #641
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    rafi bomb wrote: »
    They mentioned fines and imprisonment a couple of minutes ago. Didnt catch what it was in relation to?
    If people travel in from Britain or South Africa without a negative test.


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  • #642
    [Deleted User]
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Does anyone know when non essential retail such as Vodafone has to close?

    Vodafone is essential is it not as involves the provision of an essential service.


  • #643
    rafi bomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭rafi bomb


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    If people travel in from Britain or South Africa without a negative test. No specifics about whether that includes NI.


    Thanks.


  • #644
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    If people travel in from Britain or South Africa without a negative test. No specifics about whether that includes NI.
    No, it's travellers from Britain specifically. NI is not part of Britain.


  • #645
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Is there a list of construction sites that will stay open?


  • #646
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    How Eamon Ryan can have the audacity to stand up on that podium with a straight face after rejecting nphets advice of a pre arrival pcr test in october is really something.

    It's even more egregious now that we know the 40% positivity rate.

    In any other job he would be sacked.


  • #647
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,314 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Take away pints should never have been allowed.


  • #648
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Angry over pints


  • #649
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    seamus wrote: »
    No, it's travellers from Britain specifically. NI is not part of Britain.

    Have they found the new strain in NI? They've found it in Ireland, is itmore a case of us infecting them with it than the other way around at this point? (but obviously they have way more covid cases)


  • #650
    nelly17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭nelly17


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Is there a list of construction sites that will stay open?
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/#construction


  • #651
    Stheno
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Vodafone is essential is it not as involves the provision of an essential service.

    New guidelines seem to say emergency only


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  • #652
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    If people travel in from Britain or South Africa without a negative test. No specifics about whether that includes NI.

    So what happens... fine you and let you in after you promise to isolate, or deny entry? An what is the reason for waiting to extend the restriction to other countries... Ryan was saying its going to take a at least a week to talk to stakeholders.... Just do it, you are the frigging government.


  • #653
    Eod100
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    Missed bit about takeaway pints, are they not allowed so?


  • #654
    stephenjmcd
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Take away pints should never have been allowed.

    Still not a yes or no though.

    There's no change listed on gov.ie


  • #655
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    So what happens... fine you and let you in after you promise to isolate, or deny entry? An what is the reason for waiting to extend the restriction to other countries... Ryan was saying its going to take a at least a week to talk to stakeholders.... Just do it, you are the frigging government.

    He's saying guards can also arrest you depending on circumstances, up to 6 months.


  • #656
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    If i can pick up a coffee and go for a walk why can't I pick up a hot whiskey! Faux rage.


  • #657
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Take away pints should never have been allowed.
    I haven't seen any evidence that people drinking pints on the street lead to a significant increase in numbers. It wasn't reflected in the numbers.

    Numbers did shoot up hugely just after Christmas day. It's easy on social media to build outrage about certain things which happen in public, but the reality I think is much more mundane - it was people gathering indoors for Christmas dinners.

    The same thing happens when there are people on Facebook tearing their hair out about people going for a walk on a beach. Meanwhile no-one says anything about people popping over to other people's houses for a cup of tea, which is I think a million times more risky.


  • #658
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Missed bit about takeaway pints, are they not allowed so?

    He just went off on one saying government advice is clear.

    There's no change though to the gov.ie website in terms of restaurants for takeaway etc that I can see.

    Are they allowed... no change listed so presume so.

    Just ordering dinner and pint from the pubs app while he said it haha


  • #659
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Still not a yes or no though.

    There's no change listed on gov.ie

    Seems to be food only - Michael sounds a bit tetchy

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1346863544499904512?s=19


  • #660
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    He's saying guards can also arrest you depending on circumstances, up to 6 months.

    Arrest you and then have to keep you in the country and possibly give you a hospital bed if your situation worsens??? Send them back, you didn't comply with the entry requirements so stamp the passport 'entry denied'.


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  • #661
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    Seems to be food only - Michael sounds a bit tetchy

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1346863544499904512?s=19

    No change listed though so assume as it is now and the last few days.

    They'd need to change off licence laws to stop takeaway. His answer reads of no provision for that as it stands.


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