General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

JPA · 05-01-2021 03:56PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

What the crack with lads testing positive and only missing one game ? is it not 10 days ?

Like the Spurs lads are back tonight who tested positive after New Years party how is this ?

Did they test positive? Or just attend a party?

tom1ie · 05-01-2021 03:58PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

What the crack with lads testing positive and only missing one game ? is it not 10 days ?

Like the Spurs lads are back tonight who tested positive after New Years party how is this ?

Didn’t test positive did they?
Thought they had just broke protocol.

yourdeadwright · 05-01-2021 04:02PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Didn’t test positive did they?
Thought they had just broke protocol.

Ah makes sense

Cookiemunster · 05-01-2021 04:03PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

40 positive Covid cases today in the Premier League.

The season will be suspended soon I think.

1) It's 40 out of 2295 tests done over two rounds of testing. 2) Everyone gets tested, players, coaches, physios, etc, so that's not 40 players.

It will need to get a lot worse than that before any suspension occurs. Expect more individual match postponements rather than a suspension.

Lucas Hood · 05-01-2021 04:13PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

40 positive Covid cases today in the Premier League.

The season will be suspended soon I think.

Fake news.

28 were positive between Dec 28-31
12 were positive between 1-3 Jan 2021.

rob316 · 05-01-2021 04:16PM

If anything the national lockdown in England will help the season to continue more I think about it. Very little chance its haulted IMO

Quazzie · 05-01-2021 04:19PM

giveitholly wrote: »

Yeah klopp took a chance,I'm sure no one would of predicted season ending injuries to two centre halves, I presume Pep is not a good manager either because he didn't have adequate cover for Laporte last season and ended up having to play Ferdandinho there.

Did City win the league last year? No. Many (here included) blamed that exact lack of cover for City not winning it.

This just servers to back up my original statement that if Liverpool don't win the league this year it's down to Klopp and his insistence in using a musketeer as cover for an already deleted CB position

El Gato De Negocios · 05-01-2021 04:19PM

rob316 wrote: »

If anything the national lockdown in England will help the season to continue more I think about it. Very little chance its haulted IMO

Aye, Id say unless things go completely and utterly bananas over there then there is no chance it will be stopped. Lockdowns have proven to flatten the curve and reduce transmission among the general population, current lockdown coupled with extensive vaccine roll out should see things level off enough over the next 6 weeks to allow elite sports to continue.

Mitch Connor · 05-01-2021 04:19PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Fake news.

28 were positive between Dec 28-31
12 were positive between 1-3 Jan 2021.

so.... 40 positive cases reported today, on tests carried out between 28 and 3?

Don't really see it as fake news. Its news, followed by an opinion.

Agent Coulson · 05-01-2021 04:27PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Fake news.

28 were positive between Dec 28-31
12 were positive between 1-3 Jan 2021.

Where is the fake news?

28 + 12 = 40 yes or no?

So 40 cases were reported today again where is the fake news?

My opinion is that the premier league might be suspended soon again so when is someone's opinion the fake news?

giveitholly · 05-01-2021 04:30PM

Quazzie wrote: »

Did City win the league last year? No. Many (here included) blamed that exact lack of cover for City not winning it.

This just servers to back up my original statement that if Liverpool don't win the league this year it's down to Klopp and his insistence in using a musketeer as cover for an already deleted CB position

So any time a team doesn't win the league it's down to the manager,I must say its amusing how Klopp gets under your skin,the amount of times you rush in here having a go about him. Arsenal could only dream of having a manager of the calibre of him, Anyways I am out of this conversation,it has ran its course,Have a good day Quazzie

Fitz* · 05-01-2021 04:36PM

I think the difference here is that Pep chose to play Fernandinho at CB, instead of being forced to play him there. He had also just signed Rodri that summer for 70m to replace Fernandinho anyways.

There was a run of 8 PL games in a row from October to December where Pep chose to play Fernandinho at CB, while leaving a senior CB like Stones or Otamendi on the bench. I just picked that period for an example but over the course of the season, the majority of games where Fernandinho played CB, there was a senior CB on the bench, and Garcia was there a lot too. Later in the season, there were even some games where Pep left Stones & Otamendi both on the bench and started Fernandinho at CB.

In the PL & CL, Fernandinho started at CB 30 times, and in 19 of those games, there was a senior CB on the bench. If you include Garcia, it's even higher.

Lucas Hood · 05-01-2021 04:40PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Where is the fake news?

28 + 12 = 40 yes or no?

So 40 cases were reported today again where is the fake news.

My opinion is that the premier league might be suspended soon again where is the fake news?

You said 40 positive today which was misleading and sensationalist.

The 28 or 70% were positive over or almost a week ago and it has been reported that the games called off were largely down to these tests.

The 12 cases between 1st and 3rd shows an improvement overall since the last round of testing. 1.22% of people tested were positive.
Showing things going in the right way in my opinion.

Your post painted the situation in a worst light than it actually is.

magma69 · 05-01-2021 06:41PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Yes its just as pathetic saying a team that was 10+ points ahead will win compared to a team in 2nd

:pac:

I was referring to the sad acts that were saying it was wrapped up when Liverpool were neck and neck with City two years ago. The narrative the same lot ran with when we were 10 points ahead were that the league was a terrible standard. Keep up lad.

bennyineire · 05-01-2021 07:58PM

With the latest Covid figures for the Premier League it's only a matter of 1-2 weeks before it's suspended.

Problem with that is it leaves very little room for the Euro's

The only sensible option is to null and void the rest of the season if the numbers go over 50 next week.

Laugh all you like if you want but it's now apparent that at least one of these footballers will have a bad reaction not to mention them spreading it to older people

~Rebel~ · 05-01-2021 08:03PM

bennyineire wrote: »

With the latest Covid figures for the Premier League it's only a matter of 1-2 weeks before it's suspended.

Problem with that is it leaves very little room for the Euro's

The only sensible option is to null and void the rest of the season if the numbers go over 50 next week.

Laugh all you like if you want but it's now apparent that at least one of these footballers will have a bad reaction not to mention them spreading it to older people

I daresay their risk of something like that happening actually increases by no longer being in a regularly tested bubble.

Cookiemunster · 05-01-2021 08:09PM

bennyineire wrote: »

With the latest Covid figures for the Premier League it's only a matter of 1-2 weeks before it's suspended.

Problem with that is it leaves very little room for the Euro's

The only sensible option is to null and void the rest of the season if the numbers go over 50 next week.

Laugh all you like if you want but it's now apparent that at least one of these footballers will have a bad reaction not to mention them spreading it to older people

It's not 40 footballers though. Everyone in each clubs bubble gets tested. Players, coaches, physios etc.

It may be your opinion that the league should be voided, but that's not the opinion of the league or the experts.

bennyineire · 05-01-2021 08:24PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

It's not 40 footballers though. Everyone in each clubs bubble gets tested. Players, coaches, physios etc.

It may be your opinion that the league should be voided, but that's not the opinion of the league or the experts.

Yet, but as we know situations and opinions change very quickly. The clue is the hospital crisis already in England that is only going to get drastically worse in the next 2 weeks, the coming hospital disaster has already been flagged by the British government

Cookiemunster · 05-01-2021 10:20PM

bennyineire wrote: »

Yet, but as we know situations and opinions change very quickly. The clue is the hospital crisis already in England that is only going to get drastically worse in the next 2 weeks, the coming hospital disaster has already been flagged by the British government

PL football has no effect on the public health system or its resources. All testing is done privately and they all have access to private clinics.

Plus the numbers involved (less than 1500) aren't even a statistic in a country of 50m people.

No country has cancelled elite sports for this reason. They have protocols and resources seperate to public health and the numbers involved are tiny.

IncognitoMan · 05-01-2021 10:40PM

If it wasn't null and voided last season it won't be this.

They actually have some structure and protocol in place now with testing etc... There was nothing like this last March/April.

yourdeadwright · 06-01-2021 09:58AM

IncognitoMan wrote: »

If it wasn't null and voided last season it won't be this.

They actually have some structure and protocol in place now with testing etc... There was nothing like this last March/April.

That is true but the long break at the height of covid meant they could keep players and staff safe

Currently in the depths of winter and 40 had tested positive almost double the previous highest amount and this weekend the top clubs play clubs from lower leagues who have not been in bubbles or are not tested weekly ,

Also there is no room for an extended break due to the Euro's

Was it mentioned that 2/3rd's of a season would need to be played to announce a winner (if its stopped) or is that something someone made up ?

Shanotheslayer · 06-01-2021 10:00AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Was it mentioned that 2/3rd's of a season would need to be played to announce a winner (if its stopped) or is that something someone made up ?

90% sure that's accurate

Mitch Connor · 06-01-2021 10:00AM

Just end the league now and announce a winner based on points per game played.

Its the fairest and safest solution, I'm sure we can all agree.

bennyl10 · 06-01-2021 10:01AM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

So salty.

Salty and this season there’s nothing to back it up.

Leicester have more penalties than united.
United have one more than Liverpool. Just one.

Despite what way Klopp tries to swing it and moans about it, it just isn't backed up.

yourdeadwright · 06-01-2021 10:01AM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

PL football has no effect on the public health system or its resources. All testing is done privately and they all have access to private clinics.

Plus the numbers involved (less than 1500) aren't even a statistic in a country of 50m people.

No country has cancelled elite sports for this reason. They have protocols and resources seperate to public health and the numbers involved are tiny.

I think your missing something here, a lot of people keep saying its only 40 and that not just players which is correct but if players and staff are testing positive and bringing it home to there families they are then adding to the public health system ,

At the moment yes thing look ok but it could get out of hand very quickly ,

yourdeadwright · 06-01-2021 10:14AM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Salty and this season there’s nothing to back it up.

Leicester have more penalties than united.
United have one more than Liverpool. Just one.

Despite what way Klopp tries to swing it and moans about it, it just isn't backed up.

The moaning is just nonsense , people are interviewed when there frustrated ,

I think the issues is a week ago Pogba gets a pen for tripping himself up and then in the one game Liverpool could have had 3 (2xMane & handball) and all are dismissed again I'm not saying that Klopp is right but you can understand his reaction when asked straight after a game when there closest team to them get a soft one in there previous game ,

Also Klopp was he asked the 4th official are they checking the Mane foul the second after it happened and he said " yes the check is over no pen" This really annoyed him because lately if Liverpool make a challenge in there box VAR seems to take an age to look at it from every possible angle before deciding but for them the check is done in 2 seconds,

Again I'm not saying what Jurgen said was right but I can understand the frustration

Other moments added to that like the Free kick for there goal there was no touch and Thiago got booked, then Walcott two foots Milner with a horrendous tackle and its not even a free kick right in front of the lines man,, The head lock on Salah beside the linesman , I think the officials had a bad night and all that added to the frustration ,

Mitch Connor · 06-01-2021 11:02AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think the issues is a week ago Pogba gets a pen for tripping himself up

Oh, you mean the issue is you want to lie about an incident to pretend you are hard done by.

COOL.

yourdeadwright · 06-01-2021 11:13AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Oh, you mean the issue is you want to lie about an incident to pretend you are hard done by.

COOL.

I don't want to do anything ,

I'm not saying what Klopp said was correct but I understand why from Klopps point of view why he got frustrated and said what he did,

The narrative around the Pogba penalty is it was very soft, the reality of football is sometimes you get them and some times you don't ,

My view of Pogba's incident & Liverpool's claims are if the ref gives them VAR would not over rule any of them but if the ref did not give them VAR would not have over ruled the REF,

United just got lucky the ref gave the Pogba one , Liverpool got unlucky the ref didn't give any of there claims,
I can see how that is frustrating for Klopp but at the same time its not a wrong decision from officals if that makes sense,

El Gato De Negocios · 06-01-2021 11:19AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The moaning is just nonsense , people are interviewed when there frustrated ,

I think the issues is a week ago Pogba gets a pen for tripping himself up and then in the one game Liverpool could have had 3 (2xMane & handball) and all are dismissed again I'm not saying that Klopp is right but you can understand his reaction when asked straight after a game when there closest team to them get a soft one in there previous game ,

Also Klopp was he asked the 4th official are they checking the Mane foul the second after it happened and he said " yes the check is over no pen" This really annoyed him because lately if Liverpool make a challenge in there box VAR seems to take an age to look at it from every possible angle before deciding but for them the check is done in 2 seconds,

Again I'm not saying what Jurgen said was right but I can understand the frustration

Other moments added to that like the Free kick for there goal there was no touch and Thiago got booked, then Walcott two foots Milner with a horrendous tackle and its not even a free kick right in front of the lines man,, The head lock on Salah beside the linesman , I think the officials had a bad night and all that added to the frustration ,

Of course there would be frustration from a manager when decisions dont go their way or they feel hard done by but name dropping your clubs most hated rival when there is virtually no difference in the number of penalties awarded this season makes him look like a bit of a dope and that United have gotten into his head. A dodgy United penalty to win it on the 17th and we could well see a nuclear meltdown over Anfield. Fingers crossed anyway.:pac:

yourdeadwright · 06-01-2021 11:28AM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

Of course there would be frustration from a manager when decisions dont go their way or they feel hard done by but name dropping your clubs most hated rival when there is virtually no difference in the number of penalties awarded this season makes him look like a bit of a dope and that United have gotten into his head. A dodgy United penalty to win it on the 17th and we could well see a nuclear meltdown over Anfield. Fingers crossed anyway.:pac:

I agree he shouldn't have mentioned it but as the Pogba one was fresh in everyone's mind I reckon that why he did ,Same reason Jose mentioned it the other day

Iv a feeling none of them will be getting open on the 17th

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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