Schools closed until February? (part 3)

C__MC · 05-01-2021 11:05PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Wud appear so, 6th yrs possibly going to school too but need to watch the news back cos I thought I was hearing things

Was stated exam years ; this would imply third years as well.

Bananaleaf · 05-01-2021 11:06PM

Too soon?

Endintheclowns · 05-01-2021 11:09PM

So is it all schools for 6 weeks? That's pretty much in line with the north so. I wonder will we finally see co-operation between us after all these months.

Olivia Pope · 05-01-2021 11:12PM

Could Niall Collins have meant 6 weeks in terms of the Christmas holidays and the rest of January? That's almost 6 weeks.

JP100 · 05-01-2021 11:13PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

This is going on in many schools and partly explains the forthcoming shhtshow where some teachers will do nothing and look on the next few weeks as an extended holiday.

It's a great job then so that you will be able to control and focus on what you can do and not have to worry about what others are doing or not doing.

thomas 123 · 05-01-2021 11:15PM

JP100 wrote: »

It's a great job then so that you will be able to control and focus on what you can do and not have to worry about what others are doing or not doing.

Public job, public purse, public scrutiny.

wirelessdude01 · 05-01-2021 11:16PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

Public job, public purse, public scrutiny.

Think they meant thst he poster do the job they are employed to do and not hide behind what they claim is going in in their school.

JP100 · 05-01-2021 11:17PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

Public job, public purse, public scrutiny.

And...

Tpcl20 · 05-01-2021 11:17PM

So based on Niall Collins spilling the beans it'll probably be after the Easter break and bank holiday they're back. Tue 23rd Feb. Sense.

wirelessdude01 · 05-01-2021 11:18PM

Tpcl20 wrote: »

So based on Niall Collins spilling the beans it'll probably be after the Easter break and bank holiday they're back. Tue 23rd Feb. Sense.

Since when is February the 22nd a Bank holiday?

Purple Mountain · 05-01-2021 11:19PM

If schools are going online anyway, they should have decided that last week and started from this Thursday.
Kids have another half week of no structure and thinking they're still in holiday mode.
The quicker we all get into a routine the better.
Also, since this week is still deemed a school holiday, I'm guessing there's no online staff meetings taking place to discuss putting strategies in place for next week.
Government procrastinated for too long.

thomas 123 · 05-01-2021 11:19PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Think they meant thst he poster do the job they are employed to do and not hide behind what they claim is going in in their school.

I’m not certain - but the lack of a central plan bothered me in the first lock down, and from what teachers are saying it appears that the dept has still not put together a coherent plan. Feel bad for the kids to be honest.

Fair play to teachers who do there best with this!

thomas 123 · 05-01-2021 11:20PM

JP100 wrote: »

And...

Think I read your post wrong - my apologies.

Edit nope - that teacher(assuming they are a teacher) is correct to call out colleagues who don’t do a thing.

The hear no evil, see no evil mindset is so wrong and especially wrong among the people who teach our future generations.

That being said they should be being told what to do, not “do work online”, the dept had time to plan this.

downthemiddle · 05-01-2021 11:27PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I am not in the slightest bit surprised by this.

Something similar going on in our place, and the principal and many senior staff actively and openly opposing online teaching.

This is going on in many schools and partly explains the forthcoming shhtshow where some teachers will do nothing and look on the next few weeks as an extended holiday. And btw, there will be no consequences for the teacher or school.

Deja vu........all over again.

How many schools? Apart from yourself, how many teachers do you know who did nothing last time?

Leftwaffe · 05-01-2021 11:28PM

Schools won’t be closed at all if exam classes are in. I’ve only 1 exam class but I’ve multiple resource hours with exams years, I’ll be in there all week. No problem with it buts It’s a half closure that’s all.

Leftwaffe · 05-01-2021 11:28PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Deja vu........all over again.

How many schools? Apart from yourself, how many teachers do you know who did nothing last time?

Don’t even bother it’s pointless.

downthemiddle · 05-01-2021 11:28PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

Think I read your post wrong - my apologies.

Edit nope - that teacher(assuming they are a teacher) is correct to call out colleagues who don’t do a thing.

The hear no evil, see no evil mindset is so wrong and especially wrong among the people who teach our future generations.

That being said they should be being told what to do, not “do work online”, the dept had time to plan this.

The teacher, assuming they are a teacher, admitted that they didn't engage with their students during the last lockdown.

downthemiddle · 05-01-2021 11:30PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Don’t even bother it’s pointless.

They have received a warning to engage with posters and answers their questions. One can but hope.

teachinggal123 · 05-01-2021 11:31PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Deja vu........all over again.

How many schools? Apart from yourself, how many teachers do you know who did nothing last time?

Actually I know a lot of teachers who did almost nothing last time. I also have experience of schools who did the one email a week thing.

And it’s not just me saying that ... this thread supports that with many patents (and some teachers) saying the same thing.

The teachers denying this are part of the problem. We should be calling this out instead of circling the waging and denying it’s happening.

thomas 123 · 05-01-2021 11:32PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

The teacher, assuming they are a teacher, admitted that they didn't engage with their students during the last lockdown.

To be fair I saw it myself last lockdown - I am not a teacher but I am close to one, and they have friends in other schools - what I observed is similar to what they are saying here.

That being said if I arrived into work and was told “work” but not told what to do, or quality accessed etc then what can you do? - I’m not defending the poster by the way, I’d imagine group mentality, parents chatting(Johnny gets 3 hours of work Barry none etc) all comes into play.

Stateofyou · 05-01-2021 11:33PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Does everyone know this exists ya?

https://assets.gov.ie/90252/070614f4-3dff-4489-8e4d-be8cd625999e.pdf

Brilliant. Didn't see that before. Thanks!

Icyseanfitz · 05-01-2021 11:35PM

So exam years are in?

Bananaleaf · 05-01-2021 11:35PM

Purple Mountain wrote: »

If schools are going online anyway, they should have decided that last week and started from this Thursday.
Kids have another half week of no structure and thinking they're still in holiday mode.
The quicker we all get into a routine the better.
Also, since this week is still deemed a school holiday, I'm guessing there's no online staff meetings taking place to discuss putting strategies in place for next week.
Government procrastinated for too long.

No there absolutely will be. There won't be any until Thurs/Friday because principals can't do anything until they hear official word, but it would be some school that doesn't have a meeting before Monday of some sort

downthemiddle · 05-01-2021 11:36PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Actually I know a lot of teachers who did almost nothing last time. I also have experience of schools who did the one email a week thing.

And it’s not just me saying that ... this thread supports that with many patents (and some teachers) saying the same thing.

The teachers denying this are part of the problem. We should be calling this out instead of circling the waging and denying it’s happening.

How many teachers? How many schools?
Nobody can deny it, after all you admitted it.

Leftwaffe · 05-01-2021 11:36PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

So exam years are in?

I don’t know haven’t seen it anywhere only in here. Apparently RTE said something about it. Great if true. Makes the teachers job a lot more difficult but these are the times we are in.

alroley · 05-01-2021 11:37PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

So exam years are in?

According to RTE news anyway. No bother having the majority of secondary school teachers in school plus full year groups all mixing and not social distancing.

Stateofyou · 05-01-2021 11:37PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

What are we meant to take from it and your post?

The document isn't worth the time of day.

The usefulness this has for me is that now I understand what the Dept has directed primary schools to do in the event of remote learning. It falls far, far short of what should have been done, that needs to be said first.

But the first shutdown we only got an email once a week during the final month of school. From the principal, who wouldn't allow teachers to directly work with their own pupils/families. Everyone we have spoken to is keen for this not to happen again. We want direct communication with kids' teachers and to keep that connection going. My kids adore their teachers. They need this, and hopefully to be able to see their classmates frequently somehow. Not sure this can happen though.

teachinggal123 · 05-01-2021 11:37PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

To be fair I saw it myself last lockdown - I am not a teacher but I am close to one, and they have friends in other schools - what I observed is similar to what they are saying here.

Yet another example of what I’ve been saying about some teachers not working during lockdown.

thomas 123 · 05-01-2021 11:39PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

How many teachers? How many schools?
Nobody can deny it, after all you admitted it.

I can say with certainty 2 schools that did nothing(essentially nothing, 1 email
a week with prescribed work) - I can also say that 1 school did a massive amount of work and that I was impressed by it.

Not sure how much good that is to you though you seem to have an obsession with this persons personal experience?

wirelessdude01 · 05-01-2021 11:42PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

The usefulness this has for me is that now I understand what the Dept has directed primary schools to do in the event of remote learning. It falls far, far short of what should have been done, that needs to be said first.

But the first shutdown we only got an email once a week during the final month of school. From the principal, who wouldn't allow teachers to directly work with their own pupils/families. Everyone we have spoken to is keen for this not to happen again. We want direct communication with kids' teachers and to keep that connection going. My kids adore their teachers. They need this, and hopefully to be able to see their classmates frequently somehow. Not sure this can happen though.

Did you speak to the principal when schools returned about this?

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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