Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Deleted User wrote: »

From the 3rd onwards for Christmas day.

huh?

more like the 30th surely

so it's neither basic maths nor statistics that you're strong on

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Damn, you better head over to the WHO and let them know they are wrong.

On average it takes 5–6 days from when someone is infected with the virus for symptoms to show, however it can take up to 14 days.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_3

How many times does this have to be explained to you?

You are using the furthest day possible ie the 14th day to back up your narrative that the rise in cases is due to the new strain.

When in reality the average time it takes for someone that is infected to display symptoms is 5-6 days.

You are just another example of people seeking to push an agenda by manipulating the statistics in your favour.

How stupid do you think we are?

caveat emptor wrote: »

The fact is

• you can book flights from the 7th from the UK.
• the strain is dominant there
• NI never stopped flights
• if it is becoming the dominant strain there
• It will de the dominant one here 100%.

Flights have continued to operate from the Republic of Ireland to the U.K since the travel ban for inbound passengers was announced. Firstly, there is no restriction on passengers travelling to and entering the U.K so these flights will be taking passengers on the outbound leg for sure. On the return leg, they will either be empty, flying cargo or also including people who have received state approval to travel from the U.K to Ireland. Think returning residents, essential services etc. We are back to March again with people looking at the arrivals board of Dublin Airport and losing their minds. Cargo and essential workers will be likely the biggest revenue contributor to these flights at the moment. After that, those that do travel should be following the agreed common EU travel policy. An additional requirement of a pre-flight negative covid test less than 72 hours prior to departure would be a useful addition during this stage of the pandemic in my opinion.

I have no doubt we will see the ban either extended in the short term or more likely a mandatory pre-flight Covid negative test required from the 7th.

seamus wrote: »

Roughly the same here in Ireland.
The overall point here is that our current surge is not down to the new variant, at all. Whether it takes over or not, doesn't really matter. We've ballsed this up all on our own, we haven't been blindsided by a suddenly more infectious variant.

Quite possible. To me it seems like the virus is exceptionally transmissible in December - February. Potentially in March we may get some respite through the weather and longer days, although I seem to remember that March weather last year was particularly nice which probably helped us.

OwenM wrote: »

Why nobody is talking about vitamin D makes me scratch my head every day.

And lowering BMI at all costs

Probes wrote: »

Quite possible. To me it seems like the virus is exceptionally transmissible in December - February. Potentially in March we may get some respite through the weather and longer days, although I seem to remember that March weather last year was particularly nice which probably helped us.

Rampat socialising is the primary cause, but the season would certainly be a secondary one; drier air indoors, closed windows and doors, and cold, damp conditions outside are all optimal conditions for viral spread.

Social distancing, mask wearing and basic hygiene will still defeat the conditions, but throw everyone into close quarters indoors without masks or distancing, and you're providing perfect conditions.

They only thing March has going for it is longer daylight hours which will make it harder for the virus to survive outdoors. But we got savaged by this virus last March/April, so there's no reason to think that we would fare any better this time around. We should be in a far better place across all metrics come Easter, but the government will have to be much stronger on the message that people should not travel across the country and should stay home for that weekend.

DOCARCH wrote: »

Two of my sister's in law were in our house Christmas Day for dinner and subsequently tested positive around New Year.

HSE did not deem me or my family close contacts....no need to be tested.

Rang GP yesterday and he said same....but he said he would send us all for tests, just in case, as I have bad asthma.

This morning we have all (4 of us) tested positive! :eek:

Just goes to show! Imagine how many positives are out there now who don't 'qualify' for testing!

Whatever about not being referred for a test because of system overload, the fact that you and your family are not being considered as close contacts/ notified of such, is highly irresponsible of the HSE.. I'd make a complaint and consider going to media about that, especially considering you have now been identified as positive.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

And lowering BMI at all costs

Not achievable in a timeframe to mitigate this, rapid weight loss has other effects including suppression of the immune system, but as a public health measure it is desirable. I think 1 euro in 12 of the HSE budget goes on obesity related diseases.

Golfman64 wrote: »

Flights have continued to operate from the Republic of Ireland to the U.K since the travel ban for inbound passengers was announced. Firstly, there is no restriction on passengers travelling to and entering the U.K so these flights will be taking passengers on the outbound leg for sure. On the return leg, they will either be empty, flying cargo or also including people who have received state approval to travel from the U.K to Ireland. Think returning residents, essential services etc. We are back to March again with people looking at the arrivals board of Dublin Airport and losing their minds. Cargo and essential workers will be likely the biggest revenue contributor to these flights at the moment. After that, those that do travel should be following the agreed common EU travel policy. An additional requirement of a pre-flight negative covid test less than 72 hours prior to departure would be a useful addition during this stage of the pandemic in my opinion.

I have no doubt we will see the ban either extended in the short term or more likely a mandatory pre-flight Covid negative test required from the 7th.

I honestly don't know why the authorities here so against testing of people coming in. Its head in the sand stuff, wilfully hoping people will be good well behaved citizens and not travel but if they do they'll self isolate for 14 days after arrival.

Deleted User wrote: »

When will you begin to see symptoms?

On average it takes 5–6 days from when someone is infected with the virus for symptoms to show, however it can take up to 14 days.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_3

So this means,

If you were infected Christmas day the infection figures should start to show from around 3rd January at the earliest, or 8th Jan latest.

Not even close to being correct.