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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,405 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Steve F wrote: »
    Not sure if this has been explained and excuse me if it has but does anyone know why a lot of countries in Africa are virtually Covid free?
    Genuine question.
    Could it provide the key to transmission or is it something else that causes so few cases per 100,000?

    Many reasons, but mostly much lower average age combined with lower life expectancy so the cohort for whome covid is typically fatal is much smaller as a proportion of their population. It simply doesn't register on a chart for all cause mortality.

    Add in some incomplete or nonexistent record keeping, a lack of testing, etc... and bob's your teapot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Isn't most of Africa north of the equator?

    Yes you are right. But even the northern part of the country has high temperatures now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    I think it's summer time in Africa now, so I'm guessing temperature has something to do with it.

    It's fairly rampant in other "hot" climates
    Not arguing,just puzzled 🙄


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Steve F wrote: »
    It's fairly rampant in other "hot" climates
    Not arguing,just puzzled 🙄

    Climate doesn't seem to really make much of a difference, we just happened to lock down before summer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭AutoTuning



    Stop looking in forests known to contain deadly viruses! Post large signs saying KEEP OUT.

    We really need to become a lot more virus aware. I think a big part of this is maybe we might have just regained a bit of respect for what nature can throw at us and might be a bit less arrogantly unprepared next time.

    Post 1950s I think we have really taken this risk for granted and assumed, especially in the developed world that this kind of thing is a dusty memory and we are invincible due to technology. That’s why we’ve been idiotically doing things like wasting useful antibiotics. We could easily be hit with some awful drug resistant bacteria too.

    Same goes for climate change issues. If we just keep pretending they’re not relevant, they’ll bit us on the arse one of these days when we least expect it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Steve F wrote: »
    It's fairly rampant in other "hot" climates
    Not arguing,just puzzled 🙄

    What is the age group most affected by the virus? 65+

    What is the average life expectancy in Africa? 62 years.

    Add in low population density in many parts of the continent, less connectivity to other parts of the world, some climate factors etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Steve F wrote: »
    It's fairly rampant in other "hot" climates
    Not arguing,just puzzled 🙄

    I'm confused with the whole virus myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F



    I was only musing about something like that the other day.
    Look how badly the world has handled a virus that has a fairly low mortality rate.
    When(not if) a virus arrived that has a mortality rate of 50-90% we could be well and truly f+++ed.
    Will there still be people that refuse to follow the guidelines and carry on like nothing is happening?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Steve F wrote: »
    I know this is gonna sound depressing also but I believe a lot of people are "jumping the gun" thinking somehow 2021 is going to be magically better than 2020.
    We've already been told that the vaccine is not a "Silver Bullet" and it will be a slow return to normal.
    I had an appointment with a specialist in mid December and of course we chatted about Covid19 and the impending vaccine.
    He was very blunt and told me that we must have patience and keep up with the mask wearing, social distancing,hand hygiene etc for another year.Meaning December 2021.
    He said anyone thinking the vaccine would end the Pandemic in a few months was going to be bitterly disappointed.
    The sooner everyone comes to terms with that the better.☹️

    When all this kicked off I thought that we would be in this for at least two to three years. I was hoping I'd be wrong but we already have a year done and if it all goes well with the vaccines, it should bring us to the end of the year. Just not looking forward to the next few weeks with the increasing cases, it looks like it will be the worst wave.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Steve F wrote: »
    I was only musing about something like that the other day.
    Look how badly the world has handled a virus that has a fairly low mortality rate.
    When(not if) a virus arrived that has a mortality rate of 50-90% we could be well and truly f+++ed.
    Will there will still be people that refuse to follow the guidelines and carry on like nothing is happening?

    Hopefully we'll be proactive and prepare.. but the next generation will sort that out.

    If Ebola was just a little less deadly, it would have been a pandemic.

    Won't be long until our luck runs out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Steve F wrote: »
    It's fairly rampant in other "hot" climates
    Not arguing,just puzzled 🙄

    Suggestion is that it spreads less in warm and wet climates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    Many reasons, but mostly much lower average age combined with lower life expectancy so the cohort for whome covid is typically fatal is much smaller as a proportion of their population. It simply doesn't register on a chart for all cause mortality.

    Add in some incomplete or nonexistent record keeping, a lack of testing, etc... and bob's your teapot.

    Exactly - going by this article its potentially vastly under-reported:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/world/africa/africa-coronavirus-deaths-underreporting.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Q1 2021 will be worse than 2020 ever was but people have lost site amongst the horrific numbers caused by people taking the ultimate piss for a month, that we now have something genuinely tangible to cling too in the form of vaccines. Realistically, by the end of the month, I believe there will be three vaccines rolling out in Ireland, only one of which has to be stored at a stupid temperature.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, by April, vaccines were given out in GP surgeries.

    Chin up everyone, a bleak few weeks ahead for sure but with the schools closed (and they will be) and Christmas frivolities out the window, by February things will have stabilised and by march I believe we'll be back to a far smoother landscape. And think of how many will be vaccinated by then??

    When I look back at this period, the one time I'll remember as me being truly truly angry over it all will be the Christmas just gone. When a pathetically incompetent government ignored public health advice to catastrophic effect, pushing us not even back to square one but way beyond that to a stage where nearly one in one thousand people are being diagnosed every day with the disease. All so people could play charades at aunty Bessy's house and go for a piss up with their friends home from Dubai for Christmas (who obviously ignored quarantine guidelines).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Steve F wrote: »
    I was only musing about something like that the other day.
    Look how badly the world has handled a virus that has a fairly low mortality rate.
    When(not if) a virus arrived that has a mortality rate of 50-90% we could be well and truly f+++ed.
    Will there will still be people that refuse to follow the guidelines and carry on like nothing is happening?

    I've sometimes wondered if it was a horrible flesh eating disease, would we be more careful and I think we would. Unfortunately whether people say it out loud or not, I think there is still a pervading sense of "it's just a flu" and for some unspeakable people "it's only the elderly dying and sure they've lived their lives". There just isn't a healthy fear about it, if you pardon my choice of words. If we were actually faced with the prospect of our faces melting off at Woodies there'd be a lot less people needing decking :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I've sometimes wondered if it was a horrible flesh eating disease, would we be more careful and I think we would. Unfortunately whether people say it out loud or not, I think there is still a pervading sense of "it's just a flu" and for some unspeakable people "it's only the elderly dying and sure they've lived their lives". There just isn't a healthy fear about it, if you pardon my choice of words. If we were actually faced with the prospect of our faces melting off at Woodies there'd be a lot less people needing decking :D

    Like Necrotising Fasicitis, we've antibiotics for it, though it can kill if gone to far


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I've sometimes wondered if it was a horrible flesh eating disease, would we be more careful and I think we would. Unfortunately whether people say it out loud or not, I think there is still a pervading sense of "it's just a flu" and for some unspeakable people "it's only the elderly dying and sure they've lived their lives". There just isn't a healthy fear about it, if you pardon my choice of words. If we were actually faced with the prospect of our faces melting off at Woodies there'd be a lot less people needing decking :D

    It is a virus to fear though. Long covid. Blood clots, teeth falling out. Loss of taste and smell for months. I don't care if it's not happening to everybody, for the fact it even happens is enough for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    When all this kicked off I thought that we would be in this for at least two to three years. I was hoping I'd be wrong but we already have a year done and if it all goes well with the vaccines, it should bring us to the end of the year. Just not looking forward to the next few weeks with the increasing cases, it looks like it will be the worst wave.

    Sorry replied to wrong post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    It is a virus to fear though. Long covid. Blood clots, teeth falling out. Loss of taste and smell for months. I don't care if it's not happening to everybody, for the fact it even happens is enough for me.

    Outliers, similar to flu or can you back up the propaganda
    Obviously the virus is much more serious but the after effects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Steve F wrote: »
    I know this is gonna sound depressing also but I believe a lot of people are "jumping the gun" thinking somehow 2021 is going to be magically better than 2020.
    We've already been told that the vaccine is not a "Silver Bullet" and it will be a slow return to normal.
    I had an appointment with a specialist in mid December and of course we chatted about Covid19 and the impending vaccine.
    He was very blunt and told me that we must have patience and keep up with the mask wearing, social distancing,hand hygiene etc for another year.Meaning December 2021.
    He said anyone thinking the vaccine would end the Pandemic in a few months was going to be bitterly disappointed.
    The sooner everyone comes to terms with that the better.☹️

    A specialist in what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Now NPHETs credibility is in question

    Their brief is to keep schools open and keep non Covid healthcare operational, both have failed

    Its not specifically nphets responsibility, the government told them to plan on the basis that schools, food shops, pharmacies, etc are "essential" and have to stay open. It was rubbish and if there were 5 levels of restriction, schools closing should have been in one, the same as other places (pubs, churches, golf etc etc ) are closed at some level. MM vetoed it probably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Q1 2021 will be worse than 2020 ever was but people have lost site amongst the horrific numbers caused by people taking the ultimate piss for a month, that we now have something genuinely tangible to cling too in the form of vaccines. Realistically, by the end of the month, I believe there will be three vaccines rolling out in Ireland, only one of which has to be stored at a stupid temperature.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, by April, vaccines were given out in GP surgeries.

    Chin up everyone, a bleak few weeks ahead for sure but with the schools closed (and they will be) and Christmas frivolities out the window, by February things will have stabilised and by march I believe we'll be back to a far smoother landscape. And think of how many will be vaccinated by then??

    When I look back at this period, the one time I'll remember as me being truly truly angry over it all will be the Christmas just gone. When a pathetically incompetent government ignored public health advice to catastrophic effect, pushing us not even back to square one but way beyond that to a stage where nearly one in one thousand people are being diagnosed every day with the disease. All so people could play charades at aunty Bessy's house and go for a piss up with their friends home from Dubai for Christmas (who obviously ignored quarantine guidelines).

    I’ve been pretty angry over Christmas too tbh, but the one positive you can take from it is, hopefully, you and your loved ones are safe after it. I was getting fed up following guidelines while others very casually ignored them all but by staying in during December and keeping distance on Xmas day we were able to visit both sets of parents briefly. Now all I can see here, on Twitter, and in work, is people saying they hadn’t heard of anyone infected until now and now know loads. Certainly not out of the woods yet and as much as I hate the phrase #holdfirm, in the grand scheme of things, we’re hopefully more than half way through.

    It will without a doubt be a tough few weeks ahead watching numbers, but let’s hope spring time, with vaccinations and better weather, brings us some hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I've sometimes wondered if it was a horrible flesh eating disease, would we be more careful and I think we would. Unfortunately whether people say it out loud or not, I think there is still a pervading sense of "it's just a flu" and for some unspeakable people "it's only the elderly dying and sure they've lived their lives". There just isn't a healthy fear about it, if you pardon my choice of words. If we were actually faced with the prospect of our faces melting off at Woodies there'd be a lot less people needing decking :D

    Just human nature I suppose. If it’s not an immediate threat to your life and you’ve a huge chance of recovering if you do catch it of course people aren’t going to be as concerned than if it was more lethal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Hodger


    Steve F wrote: »
    I know this is gonna sound depressing also but I believe a lot of people are "jumping the gun" thinking somehow 2021 is going to be magically better than 2020.
    We've already been told that the vaccine is not a "Silver Bullet" and it will be a slow return to normal.
    I had an appointment with a specialist in mid December and of course we chatted about Covid19 and the impending vaccine.
    He was very blunt and told me that we must have patience and keep up with the mask wearing, social distancing,hand hygiene etc for another year.Meaning December 2021.
    He said anyone thinking the vaccine would end the Pandemic in a few months was going to be bitterly disappointed.
    The sooner everyone comes to terms with that the better.☹️

    While most of us are hoping that vaccines will get everything back to the old normal this specialist you had the appointment with who said
    anyone thinking the vaccine would end the Pandemic in a few months was going to be bitterly disappointed.

    What he might of meant was as Covid develops new varients the vaccines mightn,t protect as strongly against new strains already some Uk scientists are openly worrying about this in relation to the South African varient
    .

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-south-africa-variant-1.5860585

    https://www.independent.ie/news/uk-scientists-worried-vaccines-may-not-protect-against-south-african-coronavirus-variant-39929958.html

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/south-africa-testing-vaccines-work-variant-75034535

    We can only hope that the current vaccines will offer protection against new strains of Covid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭SAXA


    We know now why politicians should not make a medical decision... I felt in Dec numbers were too high to open up. It was not just blaming Irish but same happened in Spain opening pubs/restaurants trying to get tourist back. US and Canada had surge re Thanksgiving.. both countries celebrated on different dates... Nphet will get some things wrong but most things right. Who leaked level 5... in October..... .. Not Tony


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Does Richard Chambers just spend day in day out tweeting about Covid.
    Mr Chambers, Gavan Reilly, Zara King etc have really made a name for themselves off the back of this virus. Celebrity journalists they are now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Mr Chambers, Gavan Reilly, Zara King etc have really made a name for themselves off the back of this virus. Celebrity journalists they are now.

    I don't mind Chambers so much, he is a news journalist so it's his job. Not sure why the likes of Andrew Flood can't take the odd day off from it all though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    100 deaths a day :rolleyes: Your not Sam McDonkey by the way are you :p

    I know, right! really hate posts like that, not only will that not happen but that poster comes across as excited by the prospect. Way too many people on here with that mindset since March. We’re going through a bit of darkness before the light. Vaccines Baby! miserable folks can step aside, I’ll get it quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,826 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Mr Chambers, Gavan Reilly, Zara King etc have really made a name for themselves off the back of this virus. Celebrity journalists they are now.

    Just wait til you see how many Covid related books are out there for publication.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    The council are shutting some beach car parks in Louth.


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