General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

DM_7 · 04-01-2021 10:09PM

jayo26 wrote: »

They control aggression properly tho.

Like Liverpool do, aggression is there on the good, bad and in between days.

I can recall many days where players and managers overdid the aggression in a way that harmed their team but not from this Liverpool group.

Are you suggesting the aggression is causing a negative result? I don't see evidence of that.

jayo26 · 04-01-2021 10:11PM

Keep watching that goal its unreal i donno how he got it to dip like that in such a short distance. Nice touch mr Ings

04-01-2021 10:11PM

mightyreds wrote: »

I'd give it 7 more and city will be 7/8 points ahead and run away with it from there, they are only starting to get going now after a long summer

In fairness, their owners were probably very invested in contributing to the unfolding crisis in Yemen.

I might grumble about Liverpool this or Man Utd that, but City...just no no noooooo.

jayo26 · 04-01-2021 10:13PM

DM_7 wrote: »

Like Liverpool do, aggression is there on the good, bad and in between days.

I can recall many days where players and managers overdid the aggression in a way that harmed their team but not from this Liverpool group.

Are you suggesting the aggression is causing a negative result? I don't see evidence of that.

Nah sh1t play caused that result but a player or manager losing his head in the final minutes is not helpful. That klopp yellow card a few weeks ago thats not controlled aggression.

Dave0301 · 04-01-2021 10:14PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Kills me to say it but that's the league for utd tonight I feel.

Ridiculous statement.

GoldFour4 · 04-01-2021 10:14PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Kills me to say it but that's the league for utd tonight I feel.

Yeah just the 21 games for Liverpool to make up that gap (which is currently zero) - yawn

tayto lover · 04-01-2021 10:15PM

Thought Marriner had a good game as refereeing goes.
He didn’t fall for any shenanigans.

niallo27 · 04-01-2021 10:15PM

Dave0301 wrote: »

Ridiculous statement.

They will go top against Burnley and I can't see them getting caught from there.

citytillidie · 04-01-2021 10:15PM

Game week 17 highlights
Everton V West Ham

Man Utd V Villa

Spurs V Leeds

Palace V Sheff Utd

Brighton V Wolves

WBA V Arsenal

Burnley V Fulham - Postponed

Newcastle V Leicester

Chelsea V Man City

Southampton V Liverpool

ShamoBuc · 04-01-2021 10:15PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Kills me to say it but that's the league for utd tonight I feel.

There's knee jerk reactions and there's this

Liverpool or City will win the league I think.

pjohnson · 04-01-2021 10:17PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is what I don't get. Minamino has looked solid the last few times he's played. Yet Klopp never wants to play him. Mane couldn't control the ball the whole game and Salah was poor throughout yet Klopp refuses to sub them. I'd trust Klopp in the long run but he does seem to make some utterly silly decisions at times.

Nat Phillips has looked ok yet he also decided to start his two holding midfielders ahead of him at CB. He seems stubborn to a fault. He decided he has no CB's so he wont start the one he has. He has his front 3 he simply can't change them (until Jota literally forced himself into contention) so Minamino and Origi cant get on the pitch.

It makes his complaints about schedule/injuries a bit hollow when he randomly appears to just not use/rotate the fit senior players he DOES have.

04-01-2021 10:17PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Thought Marriner had a good game as refereeing goes.
He didn’t fall for any shenanigans.

Not so sure. He let an awful lot go for Thiago in particular
He could have easily been sent off considering his fouls accumulation
Especially in the first half and the start of the second
Liverpool got lucky there

citytillidie · 04-01-2021 10:18PM

(Games played & Max points)

33 Liverpool (17 & 96) Man Utd (16 & 99)
32 Leicester (17 & 95)
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29 Spurs (16 & 95) Man City (15 & 98) Southampton (17 & 92) Everton (16 & 95)
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26 Villa (15 & 95) Chelsea (17 & 89) West Ham (17 & 89)
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23 Arsenal (17 & 86) Leeds (17 & 86) .
22 Wolves (17 & 85) Palace (17 & 85)
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19 Newcastle (16 & 85)
18
17
16 Burnley (15 & 85)
15
14 Brighton (17 & 77)
13
12
11 Fulham (15 & 80)
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8 WBA (17 & 71)
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2 Sheff Utd (17 & 65)

DM_7 · 04-01-2021 10:19PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Kills me to say it but that's the league for utd tonight I feel.

If it was after game 37 maybe. United have little space between them and the teams below and have not even got ahead of Liverpool yet. That is only Liverpool's second loss of the season.

It is fair to say Liverpool have faltered compared to the previous two seasons but no side is in a position to feel they have anything set up for them. 7 teams within 4 points of each other and Villa in 8th have one or two games in hand on those above.

Maybe you got used to Liverpool blowing the majority of the league aside over last two seasons? Top or even a couple of games within a leader is perfectly fine at this time of year when you have a team with known quality.

Lord TSC · 04-01-2021 10:19PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

There's knee jerk reactions and there's this

Liverpool or City will win the league I think.

Can't make fun of someone bottling the league if you don't hype them up as definite winners first

We may go ahead if we beat Burnley, but I'd still put as as the heavy underdogs. Pool and City have the experience of winning it now. It's still theirs to lose.

fyfe79 · 04-01-2021 10:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not so sure. He let an awful lot go for Thiago in particular
He could have easily been sent off considering his fouls accumulation
Especially in the first half and the start of the second
Liverpool got lucky there

He booked him after about 10 minutes? After that Thiago had 2 fouls against, I think. If referee's sent off players for that level of fouling there'd be 2 or 3 players off in every game.

What did you make of Walcott's two footed studs-up lunge on Milner? Wasn't even given as a free. Do you reckon Southampton got lucky with that one?

tayto lover · 04-01-2021 10:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not so sure. He let an awful lot go for Thiago in particular
He could have easily been sent off considering his fouls accumulation
Especially in the first half and the start of the second
Liverpool got lucky there

Yes I forgot about that. He was lucky.

04-01-2021 10:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not so sure. He let an awful lot go for Thiago in particular
He could have easily been sent off considering his fouls accumulation
Especially in the first half and the start of the second
Liverpool got lucky there

Any opinion on Walcott's studs up tackle on Milner? Mariner told Milner to get up despite him being taken out by a two footed studs up tackle. Then you have Stephens literally holding Salah in a rear naked choke in front of the assistant ref and getting nothing.

niallo27 · 04-01-2021 10:23PM

Best thing Liverpool could hope for is a nice 2 month break for Covid and re group.

citytillidie · 04-01-2021 10:23PM

fyfe79 wrote: »

He booked him after about 10 minutes? After that Thiago had 2 fouls against, I think. If referee's sent off players for that level of fouling there'd be 2 or 3 players off in every game.

What did you make of Walcott's two footed studs-up lunge on Milner? Wasn't even given as a free. Do you reckon Southampton got lucky with that one?

Ahhh don't

tayto lover · 04-01-2021 10:23PM

How many times did TAA give the ball away tonight?

niallo27 · 04-01-2021 10:24PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How many times did TAA give the ball away tonight?

38 they said which I find pretty incredible tbh, it doesn't seem right.

The_Kew_Tour · 04-01-2021 10:25PM

It's between Liverpool and city still for me.

I maybe give City slight edge at this moment but they still got sure that form they showed yesterday for much longer.

Gun to the head I will go
1. City
2. Pool
3. United
4. Spurs just ahead of Leicester

The_Kew_Tour · 04-01-2021 10:25PM

It's between Liverpool and city still for me.

I maybe give City slight edge at this moment but they still got show that form they showed yesterday for much longer.

Gun to the head I will go
1. City
2. Pool
3. United
4. Spurs just ahead of Leicester

04-01-2021 10:25PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How many times did TAA give the ball away tonight?

He was awful. Not to mention the goal itself.
Take nothing away from the finish but TAA should be getting to that ball

04-01-2021 10:25PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Pool and City have the experience of winning it now. It's still theirs to lose.

And, unlike Man Utd, managers who would never be described as "below average plodders"...

davemckenna25 · 04-01-2021 10:25PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Kills me to say it but that's the league for utd tonight I feel.

Why, do you feel Man Utd are a better team at the minute?

Personally I think it will be Man City to win the title.
There is along way to go to the end, however I appreciate the support.

fyfe79 · 04-01-2021 10:26PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How many times did TAA give the ball away tonight?

38. Terrible performance.

DM_7 · 04-01-2021 10:26PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Nah sh1t play caused that result but a player or manager losing his head in the final minutes is not helpful. That klopp yellow card a few weeks ago thats not controlled aggression.

A yellow is insignificant though? I really don't see evidence that Mane for example getting aggressive led to any significant poor play from him tonight.

I recall plenty of elbows, kicks and even flying into a crowd from players I personally regarded as hero's in the past that had big consequences for the players and the team.

In terms of the Liverpool side, that aggression and drive is a key part in what leads to games like Liverpool overturning the three goals v Barca. The time it leads to a yellow card or a foul is no real issue to me.

04-01-2021 10:27PM

As a United fan i am delighted we are up near the top but i think City are favourites to win the league. They have seemed to hit a bit of form and there next 6 games they should be picking up 18 points. The league is absolutely crazy this year tho and anything can happen

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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