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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #8552
    appledrop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭appledrop


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Doesn't add up, we're in lockdown, can't be that many essential workers on the roads.

    The true is there is zero control. I've NEVER seen a checkpoint since all this began .

    I work in education sector+ since Sep once level 3 restrictions introduced when you cant leave county never mind Level 5 I had a check point I had to pass every single day on way to work. During Level 5 some days there was 2 so they are out there.


  • #8553
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,757 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Well your the one blaming the government, when everyone can see that it doesn't matter if we are level 2,3, 5 or 67 if people don't follow the restriction guidelines.

    It's quite clear that relaxing restrictions was populist idiocy


  • #8554
    lillycakes2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭lillycakes2


    Save christmas- such rubbish, for one day that goes in the blink of an eye anyway, now every tom ,dick , harry has the bloody thing


  • #8555
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    lillycakes2 wrote: »
    Save christmas- such rubbish, for one day that goes in the blink of an eye anyway, now every tom ,dick , harry has the bloody thing

    there are people in the restrictions thread that think, and i quote, "it was worth it".


  • #8556
    flanna01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭flanna01


    The National lockdown imposed by the good Boris, appears to be the same as our level 5 without the schools...?

    The majority of non alcohol obsessed punters will hardly know the difference..

    Will it work...? Not without a fear factor

    As for us.... The dogs on the street know the school won't open on Monday. Just announce it!


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  • #8557
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    froog wrote: »
    there are people in the restrictions thread that think, and i quote, "it was worth it".

    poor Boggles is trapped in there with them


  • #8558
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    lillycakes2 wrote: »
    Save christmas- such rubbish, for one day that goes in the blink of an eye anyway, now every tom ,dick , harry has the bloody thing

    It was more about giving the businesses a bit of a payday after the year they've had.


  • #8559
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Is housing non essential now?

    The majority of construction taking place right now is commercial, there's feck all housing being built right now. I've a lot of friends in that game and not one of them are at residential sites. All offices, hotels and data centres. A **** load of data centres actually.


  • #8560
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    Tony’s lockdown in oct/nov proving very foolish now. There was no way he could expect the country to stay locked down after enduring that ‘to save Xmas’. Incredibly foolish, mistimed the need for lockdown by several months.

    ^^^^

    Can't win.

    Lockdown was needed at the time ffs.


  • #8561
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Does anyone seriously think that the people would have tolerated a lock down through December? That there would not have been parties. That people would not have visited relatives?


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  • #8562
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Does anyone seriously think that the people would have tolerated a lock down through December? That there would not have been parties. That people would not have visited relatives?

    a lot of people would have. and we sure as **** wouldn't have 5000 cases a day now.


  • #8563
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    The majority of construction taking place right now is commercial, there's feck all housing being built right now. I've a lot of friends in that game and not one of them are at residential sites. All offices, hotels and data centres. A **** load of data centres actually.

    Have a look around the Dublin docklands. Lots of residential going up. Same out in Carrickmines. And commercial property means jobs....


  • #8564
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭blackcard


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    I think there are a lot of essential workers, someone a few pages back gave a list.. let's think


    a percentage of people working in banks are still in the office
    car repair
    bike repair
    electricians, plumbers etc.
    everyone working in manufacturing
    vets and groomers and their receptionists
    everyone working in public transport industry
    IT people who do anything for another essential service
    anyone who is facilitating other people to work from home
    volunteers for essential organizations like Samaritans, Simon community etc.
    supermarket workers and anyone else needed to feed all the other groups
    takeaway restaurant staff
    obvious health care roles
    dentists, physiotherapists, social workers, some psychotherapists (not all) and anyone else who works in less obvious healthcare roles, the clients of all these people
    cleaners for all of the above businesses

    and people going home after christmas

    Argos open today, how are they essential?


  • #8565
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    Tony’s lockdown in oct/nov proving very foolish now. There was no way he could expect the country to stay locked down after enduring that ‘to save Xmas’. Incredibly foolish, mistimed the need for lockdown by several months.
    Would you have preferred heading into the Christmas period with a base of ~2000 to start from instead of ~300? Because I don't think it's very likely that the people who demanded Christmas would have changed their tune no matter how sh*t things were. We did very well in November. We did poorly over Christmas.


  • #8566
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Do you understand how the vaccine roll out works?

    Do you understand the Ireland has one of the highest medical negligence cases in the world and so they need to make sure every thing is done right. Consent forms and what not.

    Do you understand there is a limit amount of the vaccine currently available in the whole world.

    Blame blame blame the government, if everyone just stayed at home and did what the government, the HSE and all health officials and limit contacts we wouldn't be in this mess. This is the 3rd Lockdown - Did the public not learn after the 2nd lockdown or was it a case that they didn't care and they were going to enjoy xmas regardless of what anyone said



    Not really no, There is no info "on how the vaccine will really roll out" just this

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/bf337-covid-19-vaccination-strategy-and-implementation-plan/

    Never mind about consent forms

    "Do you understand there is a limit amount of the vaccine currently available in the whole world"

    Yes, but hasn't the EU bought 2 million doses of Vaccines for republic to get us going, last 2 waiting EU approval, within days it will be passed.


    It can indeed but speeded up once Vaccines arrive in port.


  • #8567
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Have a look around the Dublin docklands. Lots of residential going up. Same out in Carrickmines. And commercial property means jobs....

    I thought commercial property was dead with the WFH bedding in. I know large companies in Galway trying to downsize their office space.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #8568
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,757 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    I thought commercial property was dead with the WFH bedding in. I know large companies in Galway trying to downsize their office space.

    These projects were already in progress


  • #8569
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Have a look around the Dublin docklands. Lots of residential going up. Same out in Carrickmines. And commercial property means jobs....

    Sure that's a tiny example, the majority is definitely commercial sure isn't that the entire core of our housing problem? Your arguement was originally about housing being affected but if it's about the jobs at stake, that's just tough luck. There's plenty out of work now. If construction is deemed a risk and a potential extender of our lockdown, they should be closed in the same way other sectors have been.


  • #8570
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭prunudo


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Sure that's a tiny example, the majority is definitely commercial sure isn't that the entire core of our housing problem? Your arguement was originally about housing being affected but if it's about the jobs at stake, that's just tough luck. There's plenty out of work now. If construction is deemed a risk and a potential extender of our lockdown, they should be closed in the same way other sectors have been.

    Think it depends where you are, its all housing around here, very little commercial.


  • #8571
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    froog wrote: »
    a lot of people would have. and we sure as **** wouldn't have 5000 cases a day now.

    How do you know? Even NPHET projections on what Govt did agree did not point to these numbers.

    There was fatigue, complacency and many people were letting off steam including people who followed the rules religiously through the year, cancelled holidays.


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  • #8572
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    prunudo wrote: »
    Think it depends where you are, its all housing around here, very little commercial.

    and where's "here"?


  • #8573
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Sure that's a tiny example, the majority is definitely commercial sure isn't that the entire core of our housing problem? Your arguement was originally about housing being affected but if it's about the jobs at stake, that's just tough luck. There's plenty out of work now. If construction is deemed a risk and a potential extender of our lockdown, they should be closed in the same way other sectors have been.

    Jobs (construction and investment), economy, housing, livelihoods. If it is a risk then shut it down but don’t pretend this is a zero sum decision. It is not.

    It’s not a tiny example. Plus there is a cycle for construction projects due to limited labour.


  • #8574
    KerryConnor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭KerryConnor


    It was probably very necessary or that spike that happened in late Oct would have turned into nightmare we have now at an earlier date.

    beaz2018 wrote: »
    Tony’s lockdown in oct/nov proving very foolish now. There was no way he could expect the country to stay locked down after enduring that ‘to save Xmas’. Incredibly foolish, mistimed the need for lockdown by several months.


  • #8575
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭prunudo


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    and where's "here"?

    Co. Wicklow


  • #8576
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Jobs (construction and investment), economy, housing, livelihoods. If it is a risk then shut it down but don’t pretend this is a zero sum decision. It is not.

    No, I'm just saying exactly what you are. If construction is a risk, then shut it down.


  • #8577
    TexasTornado
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭TexasTornado


    Arguing about schools and construction lol. It's no wonder we are in the mess we are.


  • #8578
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Haven't been here in a while, can someone tell me the positive swab numbers for today and positivity rate? I know they used to be posted here daily


  • #8579
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    No, I'm just saying exactly what you are. If construction is a risk, then shut it down.

    If it is a risk....

    But it has an absolutely massive cost.


  • #8580
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Haven't been here in a while, can someone tell me the positive swab numbers for today and positivity rate? I know they used to be posted here daily

    Times have changed\
    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


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  • #8581
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Times have changed\
    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Thanks Shane -


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