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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #8372
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    It very clearly isn’t after tonight.

    Massive and embarrassing u turn if that's the case,


  • #8373
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Nolan setting up return to primary schools only there by highlighting relative low incidence in primary age groups

    No, he said it was relatively low compared to other groups but still very high.


  • #8374
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Got on a lucky one, came in 18/1.
    I've got a feeling this year's for me and you.


    The bookies closed last week. Where are you seeing them open????:confused:


  • #8375
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Read back around six pages, yes way.

    Couldn't find any, that's why I was asking if you could point some.


  • #8376
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Massive and embarrassing u turn if that's the case,

    Hardly.

    They’ve advised on numbers available each time

    We now have new numbers and the advise has changed. That’s how this works


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  • #8377
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    well they did say that christmas should be either opening restaurants/gastropubs OR home visits. Not both. If their advice had been followed then presumably things wouldn't be looking so bleak now.

    They wouldn't be much better in fairness, how many would have followed home rule visits over Christmas. We would still have 1000s of cases.


  • #8378
    Pcgamer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Pcgamer


    I thought schools weren't a spreader according to some folks in here???


  • #8379
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    As a ratio of population have we now outstripped the UK?


  • #8380
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    niallo27 wrote: »
    They wouldn't be much better in fairness, how many would have followed home rule visits over Christmas. We would still have 1000s of cases.

    So then they shouldn't have opened restaurants/gastropubs.


  • #8381
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    They get paid either way, and they work either way.

    I don't understand why 16-18 year olds were ever made to go back to schoool since they can learn online easier than the other age groups and since they can spread covid as easily as an adult can, unlike kids

    Actually Mike Ryan of WHO has said that children aged 10 can contract and spread the virus at least as well as adults do.

    It's just children tend to not be as ill as older people.


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  • #8382
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    As discussed ad Ad nauseam here over past few weeks. There is something to this variant whether you think bojo is a muppet or not. Dithering on schools isn't helping with public confidence.

    Philip Nolan was hinting at the spread across all the age groups. They couldn't force the government's hand again. The evidence is becoming clear. The alternative is that it's an invention to cover the UK and South Africa inadequate public health response. If that is the case expect a new fighting Irish variant which just out smarted us at Christmas to emerge.

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1346168280839557121?s=20


  • #8383
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    I thought schools weren't a spreader according to some folks in here???

    They aren't, well they weren't enough to justify shutting down but we are now well past expectations of control.


    I'd say an estimate of 150k people currently infected wouldn't be too wild.

    There is no comparison from ten days ago to now

    Nearly all countries that kept it low at the start seem to get a big surge later.


  • #8384
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Scotland's lockdown looks absolutely terrifying.

    Legally bound to remain at home all the time.


  • #8385
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,855 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    froog wrote: »
    Employers dont trust people to work at home. Its as simple as that.

    I don’t think it’s trust per say, but they don’t like the ‘not being in control’ part. It’s alien.

    If an employer doesn’t trust employees or an employee, why did they hire them ?

    If I’m an employer all I want is an employee to do a good job to the required standard. The amount of work to that standard in a required timeframe.

    If you are comfortable with that in covid times you need to be comfortable with an employee doing so from the safety of their home..

    Difficulty comes when have the sort of micro managing manager. Who for whatever reason is insecure..about not having his employee in earshot only email / messenger shot.


  • #8386
    jaffa20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Advice is if you have flu like symptoms to self isolate. Do they mean the cold? When I had the flu for first time a few years ago I thought I was dying and could barely move rather than thinking about going out. Only good thing is it passes quicker than the flu.


  • #8387
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Scotland's lockdown looks absolutely terrifying.

    Legally bound to remain at home all the time.

    No measure is as terrifying as the potential situation of hospitals overcrowding. Staying home compared to going to the hospital with a broken leg and being turned away? Staying home is really more scary to you? What is wrong with your home? You should move house!


  • #8388
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Then why were they saying schools were safe before hand?

    That was the discussion on the impact on the R0 which has so many factors that cannot be disentangled. When you look at individual outbreaks you get specific data for that environment but not how it feeds into the overall picture


  • #8389
    appledrop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭appledrop


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Scotland's lockdown looks absolutely terrifying.

    Legally bound to remain at home all the time.

    Yep + they only have 2,500 cases and same population as us.

    Meanwhile we have 6,000+ cases and can't even decide if we should close the schools.

    Mind boggling!


  • #8390
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    Any sign of the Taoiseach?


  • #8391
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Scotland's lockdown looks absolutely terrifying.

    Legally bound to remain at home all the time.
    Except for exercise, shopping etc. Looks the same as ours, except possibly enforced.


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  • #8392
    alice14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭alice14


    Just to try counteract all the (warranted) doom and gloom at the moment with a tiny bit of good news

    I’m a healthcare worker in a large Dublin hospital. The vaccine is being rolled out tomorrow and we’ve been told we can book our slot and they aim to have all staff in patient facing roles vaccinated with their 1st dose in the next 2 weeks! I feel like a child on Christmas Eve this evening.

    The end is finally in sight. I just hope we don’t fall at the final and manage to get through January without things getting too bad.


  • #8393
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Danzy wrote: »
    No, he said it was relatively low compared to other groups but still very high.

    He shared that, unasked


  • #8394
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That was the discussion on the impact on the R0 which has so many factors that cannot be disentangled. When you look at individual outbreaks you get specific data for that environment but not how it feeds into the overall picture

    Well this was the first time we tried a combo of open schools, level 3 with restaurants, and Christmas visiting between counties

    let's not do that combo again


  • #8395
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    alice14 wrote: »
    Just to try counteract all the (warranted) doom and gloom at the moment with a tiny bit of good news

    I’m a healthcare worker in a large Dublin hospital. The vaccine is being rolled out tomorrow and we’ve been told we can book our slot and they aim to have all staff in patient facing roles vaccinated with their 1st dose in the next 2 weeks! I feel like a child on Christmas Eve this evening.

    The end is finally in sight. I just hope we don’t fall at the final and manage to get through January without things getting too bad.

    Delighted for yee!
    :):):)


  • #8396
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    I can confirm from personal experience that Fred Flintstone would find the IT systems of the HSE prehistoric

    It's strange that they cannot create a new system in parellel, run both systems and do a switchover on a quiet period, and migrate archived/historic data afterwards from a certain point in time before finally knocking off the old system.

    They made it sound impossible to do.


  • #8397
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    I thought schools weren't a spreader according to some folks in here???

    Who said they weren’t. What they said is they don’t drive the spread and that remains the evidence


  • #8398
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    Why are coffee shops allowed open ? I know it’s takeaway only but I passed one today and it had a huge Q everyone on top of one another including staff.


  • #8399
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Strumms wrote: »
    I don’t think it’s trust per say, but they don’t like the ‘not being in control’ part. It’s alien.

    If an employer doesn’t trust employees or an employee, why did they hire them ?

    If I’m an employer all I want is an employee to do a good job to the required standard. The amount of work to that standard in a required timeframe.

    If you are comfortable with that in covid times you need to be comfortable with an employee doing so from the safety of their home..

    Difficulty comes when have the sort of micro managing manager. Who for whatever reason is insecure..about not having his employee in earshot only email / messenger shot.

    I'd a chat with my boss today, we've all been WFH since April. I was sent home in March because I was pregnant, as were one or two other high risk groups. The feeling is that even when we are "back" the company wants to adopt a more balanced approach and support people in remote working where possible. My boss has never been one to micro manage, and will say "if I designate something to you I'm going to assume you're progressing it, and I won't be checking in on you all the time". I find it a very productive setup and I'll go out of my way to get it done. I hate being micro managed. I guess it depends what suits the individual.


  • #8400
    Fakediamond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    Boris J announcement on level 5 at 8.00 p.m. it’s on channel 4 now


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  • #8401
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭Be right back


    alice14 wrote: »
    Just to try counteract all the (warranted) doom and gloom at the moment with a tiny bit of good news

    I’m a healthcare worker in a large Dublin hospital. The vaccine is being rolled out tomorrow and we’ve been told we can book our slot and they aim to have all staff in patient facing roles vaccinated with their 1st dose in the next 2 weeks! I feel like a child on Christmas Eve this evening.

    The end is finally in sight. I just hope we don’t fall at the final and manage to get through January without things getting too bad.

    That's great!!


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