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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #8072
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Quick question, are take-aways safe at all now?

    Is there more of a chance of having someone with covid preparing my food?


    As I understand it, once your food is hot it doesn't really matter if the person had covid and coughed directly into it. Reheat it if it's not piping hot when you get it home (at least 65 degrees), and treat the containers and bags and stuff as if they were laced with arsenic, so then just see if you trust the social distancing measures in the takeaway place and if so then you are good to go.

    https://www.latimes.com/food/story/2020-04-24/does-cooking-food-kill-coronavirus

    I think they describe takeaways as "medium risk" but I think that risk is all about the packaging and the going into the restaurant, not the actual food


  • #8073
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Happy new year everybody I have been away from internet for a few days, was talking to my mate in Quebec and he was talking about some worrying stuff concerning the vaccinations. Out of the 236 people who got the vaccination there 102 of them got covid. He sent me a clip on youtube, so if you are good at French here you go.

    Protection is after the second dose, you're still at risk until 7 days after the second dose.
    From the HSE
    Vaccine recipients may not be protected until 7 days after the second dose.


  • #8074
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Well they got the vaccination on 14th December, so maybe some of them have been foolish and careless, who knows.

    So they got their 1st dose exactly 3 weeks ago which only provides partial protection roughly 10 days after dose and not 95% effiency until after 2nd dose which would be today and at that the 95% wouldn't be seen for another week or so.

    Its still very much possibly to get covid after being vaccinated especially after only one dose providing partial protection. The aim of the vaccines is to reduce serious illness and death.


  • #8075
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Got notice that my post-operative appointment tomorrow is cancelled.


    So I have no idea what my limitations are when I return to work because we were meant to discuss that tomorrow, I've no idea what wound care I need because that was meant to change tomorrow, I was meant to receive treatment for something else during the appointment tomorrow that my gp isn't qualified to treat and I'm basically left in limbo.



    Wonderful. And they didn't have the time to inform patients so posted it on social media.


    Absolute shambles. The last time they did this, the delay in treatment resulted in me needing extra operations and with irreversible damage due to the complexity of the case after such a long wait.

    Furious is an understatement right now.
    To be fair, it's not JUST the HSE's fault. It's everybody in Ireland's fault (including us).

    Have you asked if it can be done over phone/zoom? We do a lot of that in our OPD.

    Best of luck in your recovery.


  • #8076
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,151 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    You really need to take a step back. You will drive yourself insane.

    I don't think it's a wildly out there question, considering how much the virus is spreading at the moment.

    Ask yourself honestly: Would you be happy enough to eat something prepared by someone who had Covid?


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  • #8077
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I'd happily do a phone appointment, but the hospital aren't offering that. I had a GP appointment this morning for something related to the surgery and she can't treat it, it's way beyond her scope. I've no idea what I can or cannot do to care for the wounds and I was discharged from the public health nurse until my appointment because there was nothing more they could do until the hospital gave further direction.



    This is wrong on so many levels. We're being left to fend for ourselves with complex medical problems because the government and HSE did bloody nothing to prepare for further waves of the virus. I'm so incredibly angry.

    So sorry to hear this. Terrible knock on effects and all for one Christmas. Bloody hell.


  • #8078
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Quick question, are take-aways safe at all now?

    Is there more of a chance of having someone with covid preparing my food?

    Is this a serious question?

    What does "safe at all now" mean in risk terms?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #8079
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Quick question, are take-aways safe at all now?

    Is there more of a chance of having someone with covid preparing my food?

    covid would be the least of your problems in some of them


  • #8080
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Arghus wrote: »
    I don't think it's a wildly out there question, considering how much the virus is spreading at the moment.

    Ask yourself honestly: Would you be happy enough to eat something prepared by someone who had Covid?

    We're not talking about that decision though. We're talking about the possibility that someone working could have it, that could be anywhere, it could be the supermarket staff member that scanned your sliced pan.

    Takeaway food (hot anyway) should be perfectly safe itself, taking care not to lick the packaging before eating!


  • #8081
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Quick question, are take-aways safe at all now?

    Is there more of a chance of having someone with covid preparing my food?
    I honestly wouldn't risk it, especially at the moment, but the closest thing we've had to takeaway in the last year is restaurant meals we get delivered and prepare quickly at home. It's actually grand, I don't miss going out as much as I expected I would! Very cost-effective too and the food is easy to prepare in a few minutes, usually just heat it in the microwave. If you check www.neighbourfood.ie you might find a nice place in your area doing meal deals.


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  • #8082
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Quick question, are take-aways safe at all now?

    Is there more of a chance of having someone with covid preparing my food?

    If you're going to be that cautious, you may as well disinfect every grocery you buy in the shop as well. They've been handled by far more people than your take away and everyone picking something up to read labels etc. I don't bother, as I'd rather Covid as opposed to spraying disinfectant on my groceries only to get some sort of tumour down the line.

    So eat your chips, I say. Not that I believe your post ia a serious question and just a rile up for the thread but others might like the input.


  • #8083
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Mimon wrote: »
    No harm assessing reasonable risks. Would you eat a sandwich prepared by someone if you knew they had covid?


    The whole purpose of a risk assessment is to determine whether the benefits outweigh the risks. In the case of take aways the benefit of satisfying your hunger greatly outweigh the astronomical odds of getting it from the food.


    The question you posed above makes any risk assesment unnecessary as you already know the person preparing it has covid.;)


  • #8084
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I'd happily do a phone appointment, but the hospital aren't offering that. I had a GP appointment this morning for something related to the surgery and she can't treat it, it's way beyond her scope. I've no idea what I can or cannot do to care for the wounds and I was discharged from the public health nurse until my appointment because there was nothing more they could do until the hospital gave further direction.



    This is wrong on so many levels. We're being left to fend for ourselves with complex medical problems because the government and HSE did bloody nothing to prepare for further waves of the virus. I'm so incredibly angry.

    This is so awful. I don't understand why they let this happen, we all knew this was going to be a hard winter, that the virus likes the cold and the dark, and yet here we are, with hospitals bursting and "non-urgent" being redefined, as if all this weren't preventable.

    I'm so sorry, I hope this passes soon and the delay is very short.


  • #8085
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    cheezums wrote: »
    a side note on masks - i've seen quite a few masks that appear to be made from t-shirt or bra material and the way they are made you have no idea what side you are putting on. so not only are they letting a lot of droplets through the very porous material, people are taking them off and putting on the side they previously breathed into, now they are pushing all that **** out into the atmosphere. 100% useless and possibly even more dangerous than using nothing at all.
    So you do think the masks are catching the germs?


  • #8086
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    The whole purpose of a risk assessment is to determine whether the benefits outweigh the risks. In the case of take aways the benefit of satisfying your hunger greatly outweigh the astronomical odds of getting it from the food.


    The question you posed above makes any risk assesment unnecessary as you already know the person preparing it has covid.;)


    1. The risk is not astronomical
    2. in all risk assessment we have to assume the person / people involved all have covid, otherwise the risk would be zero


  • #8087
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    If you're going to be that cautious, you may as well disinfect every grocery you buy in the shop as well. They've been handled by far more people than your take away and everyone picking something up to read labels etc. I don't bother, as I'd rather Covid as opposed to spraying disinfectant on my groceries only to get some sort of tumour down the line.

    So eat your chips, I say. Not that I believe your post ia a serious question and just a rile up for the thread but others might like the input.

    Are you not disinfecting your groceries? Not even joking. I'm not going to get a tumour because I washed a tetra-pack with soap and water

    I am so fed up with it. I know someone who bought a UV lamp for 50 quid so she can zap hers


  • #8088
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    This is so awful. I don't understand why they let this happen, we all knew this was going to be a hard winter, that the virus likes the cold and the dark, and yet here we are, with hospitals bursting and "non-urgent" being redefined, as if all this weren't preventable.

    I'm so sorry, I hope this passes soon and the delay is very short.

    Is there any news of taking over private hospitals at all? They seem very slow with all this. It might be one solution with the knock on effects.


  • #8089
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    I honestly wouldn't risk it, especially at the moment, but the closest thing we've had to takeaway in the last year is restaurant meals we get delivered and prepare quickly at home. It's actually grand, I don't miss going out as much as I expected I would! Very cost-effective too and the food is easy to prepare in a few minutes, usually just heat it in the microwave. If you check www.neighbourfood.ie you might find a nice place in your area doing meal deals.

    So you want local take aways to go out of business now too?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #8090
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    To be fair, it's not JUST the HSE's fault. It's everybody in Ireland's fault (including us).

    Have you asked if it can be done over phone/zoom? We do a lot of that in our OPD.

    Best of luck in your recovery.

    I don't think it's the public's fault that the government did absolutely nothing to improve capacity and systems during previous lockdowns tbh. But I take your point.

    I can't get through to my consultant's team, only general reception, but I'll be asking for a phone consultation. Dunno how they're meant to do a wound check or an examination of the internal inflammation they were concerned about over the phone but at least I'd have some answers.


    Thank you, I appreciate it! I hope you're not struggling too much in work. I know I'm angry and upset but I DO understand the pressure and strain you're all under. My issue isn't with any medical staff. They can only do so much.


  • #8091
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,613 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Where do you guys watch the briefing?


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  • #8092
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Are you not disinfecting your groceries? Not even joking

    I am so fed up with it. I know someone who bought a UV lamp for 50 quid so she can zap hers

    I was but then the whole thing went on a bit longer than I imagined and I decided spraying antibacterial that often in my house was more of a risk to my family and I.

    You have to wash your hands extensively with soap to have effect, do you think going over your groceries with a bit is helping much?

    Each to their own but me and my immediate family have remained Covid free for now.


  • #8093
    [Deleted User]
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    charlietheminxx wrote: »
    The poster isn't inventing things to stress over, they are stressed because there's a pandemic with numbers rising ridiculously fast and our health service is a shambles. Not reading about it doesn't make it go away.

    Unless you're a psychiatrist or a counsellor, you probably should refrain from advising strangers on how to manage their mental health.

    Personally, I actually feel worse not being informed on what's going on, I worry more when I don't have all the information. Everyone manages anxiety differently and having a dig at someone who is suffering with the state of things at the moment is just unkind.

    I can speak with some authority on the management of mental health. Different people will cope in different ways with this crisis. For you being informed is important and I'm sure helps and gives you comfort. For others they ignore all news and go on their way.

    It isn't the method of coping that becomes problematic, its how you feel inside. If fear of contracting the virus starts to take over your life, if you are gobbling up every bit of information in the hope that you will find reassurance or validation, then its no harm to take a step back.

    I really don't think that poster was having a dig but was instead showing concern.
    It is easy for our own selves to become the block to living and not Covid.


  • #8094
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    1. The risk is not astronomical
    2. in all risk assessment we have to assume the person / people involved all have covid, otherwise the risk would be zero




    Zero would be about right.;)


  • #8095
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Where do you guys watch the briefing?

    RTE news now.

    Not on yet.

    By the way 1801 cases and 12 deaths in NI.


  • #8096
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    I was but then the whole thing went on a bit longer than I imagined and I decided spraying antibacterial that often in my house was more of a risk to my family and I.

    soap kills the virus just as well as disinfectant. But you have to scrub each surface for 20 seconds. It's very tedious, better have audiobooks.

    They are saying it's probably low risk but I don't understand that, they are still saying that surfaces are the "main" way it spreads (even though it seems for all the world like it is mainly spreading through respiratory droplets, but anyway) so why are they saying that the grocery surfaces are safe? How are they an exception? Better soapy than sorry


  • #8097
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,041 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40200870.html
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8098
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,942 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Is there any news of taking over private hospitals at all? They seem very slow with all this. It might be one solution with the knock on effects.


    Yup heard HSE chief on NT this morning, they will have the agreement in place before EOW apparently


  • #8099
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Are you not disinfecting your groceries? Not even joking. I'm not going to get a tumour because I washed a tetra-pack with soap and water

    I am so fed up with it. I know someone who bought a UV lamp for 50 quid so she can zap hers

    Wow. I cannot see myself ever going to these extremes.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #8100
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,041 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    52 in UHL with Covid19 at present
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #8101
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    Have to feel for nurses as I watch the news. I'm sitting in my home office, protected and making very good money for it (better than I deserve to be honest).

    They are facing into a staffing crisis, battling away long hours, under horrible pressure, getting paid pittance and have a few horrible weeks ahead.

    Just doesn't seem right that they get shafted so often. These people are heroes.


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