Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

bodhrandude wrote: »

Happy new year everybody I have been away from internet for a few days, was talking to my mate in Quebec and he was talking about some worrying stuff concerning the vaccinations. Out of the 236 people who got the vaccination 102 of them have covid. He sent me a clip on youtube, so if your good at French here you go.

my understanding is the vaccine won't stop you getting covid, it will prime your immune system so that it handles it to the point where you are asymptomatic if you do get infected.

open to correction on that.

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you suggesting that the covid vaccine is causing covid rather than providing immunity?:pac::pac::pac:

Well they got the vaccination on 14th December, so maybe some of them have been foolish and careless, who knows.

You know things are serious when Mark Paul - massive ejit that he is - is even saying this in the Irish Times:

Those of us who support protecting the economy must accept it has to take a backseat until upsurge is contained

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/reopening-indoor-dining-was-reasonable-at-the-time-but-it-has-backfired-1.4449809?mode=amp

podgeandrodge wrote: »

In relation to the 'Schools question', I see Donnelly saying "as of now Nphet has not made any recommendations that schools should remain closed and the current plan is they will reopen on January 11".

I had thought, perhaps incorrectly, that the schools were being kept open because of the impact on their closing on a range of things (in addition to kids) such as parents getting to work, etc. etc. and "We know from the first lockdown it had a big impact on children, particularly children from lower income areas” etc. etc.


But I don't understand how this question is within the remit of NPHET in terms of how can they say that schools are 'safe', compared to any other buildings which they say aren't safe? Like "non essential" retail etc. I don't understand how they can make this determination? But as I say, I'd understand Govt. keeping them open for other reasons if that was deemed necessary.

The last 2 times we had a rise in cases (in the first week or two in November and now after Christmas) both coincided with schools being closed a week or more.
Honestly I think there is a lot to keeping kids in school as a measure to control spread in general.
There seems to be a lot more mixing of households when schools are closed.

a side note on masks - i've seen quite a few masks that appear to be made from t-shirt or bra material and the way they are made you have no idea what side you are putting on. so not only are they letting a lot of droplets through the very porous material, people are taking them off and putting on the side they previously breathed into, now they are pushing all that **** out into the atmosphere. 100% useless and possibly even more dangerous than using nothing at all.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

In relation to the 'Schools question', I see Donnelly saying "as of now Nphet has not made any recommendations that schools should remain closed and the current plan is they will reopen on January 11".

I had thought, perhaps incorrectly, that the schools were being kept open because of the impact on their closing on a range of things (in addition to kids) such as parents getting to work, etc. etc. and "We know from the first lockdown it had a big impact on children, particularly children from lower income areas” etc. etc.


But I don't understand how this question is within the remit of NPHET in terms of how can they say that schools are 'safe', compared to any other buildings which they say aren't safe? Like "non essential" retail etc. I don't understand how they can make this determination? But as I say, I'd understand Govt. keeping them open for other reasons if that was deemed necessary.

When they said safe they were going by the research that said covid finds it difficult to spread between children, as well as the research that the death rate for kids with this is very low, lower than flu (and we beat flu this year huzzah!). I don't know about the research on other health affects and children

We don't yet have the data on whether this new variant (10% prevalence here) spreads faster between children than the old ones did
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55388846

It is my feeling that it would be reckless to open schools until we know that

We don't know if the new varient is much more infectious (but it seems like it's at least somewhat more infectious)
we don't know if it spreads easier between children
we aren't even sure if the vaccine works on it yet (but it seems likely it will)

If it is true that it has no problem spreading from child to child, then it will become the dominant variant if we reopen schools, it's too mysterious to let that happen, in my view. But who the hell am I!? Seriously. Let's see what NPHET say

Got notice that my post-operative appointment tomorrow is cancelled.


So I have no idea what my limitations are when I return to work because we were meant to discuss that tomorrow, I've no idea what wound care I need because that was meant to change tomorrow, I was meant to receive treatment for something else during the appointment tomorrow that my gp isn't qualified to treat and I'm basically left in limbo.



Wonderful. And they didn't have the time to inform patients so posted it on social media.


Absolute shambles. The last time they did this, the delay in treatment resulted in me needing extra operations and with irreversible damage due to the complexity of the case after such a long wait.

Furious is an understatement right now.

AutoTuning wrote: »

It’s not “vax & go!”

And if I could shoot whoever in Ryanair who came up with that slogan with bullets of their own sh!te, I'd be a happy man

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Quick question, are take-aways safe at all now?

Is there more of a chance of having someone with covid preparing my food?

Funnily enough was thinking of this a minute ago as usually go for a sandwich for lunch in the work canteen. Was thinking that the cooked food may be a safer option for a while.

UrbanFret wrote: »

You really need to take a step back. You will drive yourself insane.

No harm assessing reasonable risks. Would you eat a sandwich prepared by someone if you knew they had covid?

SuperRabbit wrote: »

That's so awful, I'm so sorry. Level 3 for December was not worth putting you and other people in your situation through this

When it comes to wound care, might you be able to get a telehealth appointment for that? Little consolation I know :(:(

I'd happily do a phone appointment, but the hospital aren't offering that. I had a GP appointment this morning for something related to the surgery and she can't treat it, it's way beyond her scope. I've no idea what I can or cannot do to care for the wounds and I was discharged from the public health nurse until my appointment because there was nothing more they could do until the hospital gave further direction.



This is wrong on so many levels. We're being left to fend for ourselves with complex medical problems because the government and HSE did bloody nothing to prepare for further waves of the virus. I'm so incredibly angry.