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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7982
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Looks like they may be slowly unclogging the IT block though.. If cases come in about 6,700 to 6,900 this evening it seems like this theory might be correct.

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1345802943719739392?s=20

    It may be a case of extra data entry clerks rate than an IT solution


  • #7983
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Dropping kids to creche and went to shops at lunch, saw exactly the opposite, was much closer to March/April levels than ive seen all year.

    Indeed was surprised at this and used Google maps to calculate travel times to various places around Dublin. Lots of blue and this is a wet wintry day.


  • #7984
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I don’t see the need to add thousands more to the pup numbers if it can be avoided.
    Thanks for the anecdotes, not sure what they add to the discussion though.

    Last March/April Tom and Mary's cafe's weren't open. No one starved and no one died cause they didn't have their coffee.

    The more things that are close the quicker we will get out of this mess. Otherwise people have a reason to go outside and congregate, and that is something need to avoid.


  • #7985
    Windmill100000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Gov literally threw a carrot out by saying, behave now and you can have a break at Christmas. License to spread it. Idiots both Gov and those milling around buying pyjamas and other unnecessary crap in crowded places, along with socialising, because they were told it was ok.

    Anyway, Scotland has locked down and Johnson making an announcement at 8pm presumably a more severe lockdown with schools closed etc.

    Our own Gov probably waiting, and will do the same on their coat tails.

    Did you buy anything over Christmas yourself?

    Is there really a big difference between buying pjs and deciding on what soup to buy?


  • #7986
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Plus the cases being at a much higher rate to begin with. At least in summer restrictions were eased when cases were in single digits nationally or low double digits vs 200/300 a day cases leading up to latest easing of restrictions. Plus increased socialising inside and less likely places would be well ventilated.

    The type of growth rates seen in December were broadly similar to those in October until Christmas week


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  • #7987
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    This takeaway coffee/pints/food nonsense needs to stop. Those workers are all typically on top of each other in small, individually owned businesses with no room for social distancing, same with the customers that enter all breathing down each others necks.

    There was none of that crap in April and people surivived just fine, let everyone stay at home and let's get through this. Since the first lockdown, the government has paid way too much heed to industry influence, just close the country down,.give people no incentive to travel/meet up and we can ride through this.

    Also, the list of essential business is a joke, parents can't get clothes for children but I can get my car washed.....? Serious level of cop on needed now including keeping children at home, are they seriously considering sending 25% of the population into crowded, poorly ventilated rooms on Monday when we're getting 5000 positive swabs a day?


  • #7988
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The type of growth rates seen in December were broadly similar to those in October until Christmas week

    We started opening up on December 1st. You wouldn't expect to see much growth for 10-14 days after that.

    And that's what happened. It grew steadily for a few days, and then went mad.


  • #7989
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Windmill100000 wrote: »
    Did you buy anything over Christmas yourself?

    Is there really a big difference between buying pjs and deciding on what soup to buy?

    Genuinely didn’t go into a shop, got supermarket delivery. Only went to Argos to pick up a heated throw for the sofa. Best bloody invention ever!

    Gave cash pressies for Christmas.


  • #7990
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Indeed was surprised at this and used Google maps to calculate travel times to various places around Dublin. Lots of blue and this is a wet wintry day.

    25-30 minutes Bray to city centre at half 8 this morning. Very unusual to do it in that.

    Just about to leave the office now but looking out the window the roads are very quiet, Google telling me 30 mins home as well, would usually easily take over an hour and through November & December easily took over an hour most evening, worst was about an hour and 20


  • #7991
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Is there a lag in deaths now? With such a dramatic case figure rise, I was expecting deaths to jump too. Hopefully not obviously


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  • #7992
    [Deleted User]
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    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    We've seen record admissions in the last few days.

    It's pretty obvious we're going to eclipse the March/April records pretty soon. Even if we peak today in terms of cases, hospitalisations lag by quite a bit.

    The new admissions data only goes back to the start of April, however if you look at the daily change in Hospital cases data, this was about 100 per day in the last week of March


  • #7993
    charlietheminxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Having read about 100 pages of this thread today and most if not all of your messages, I stand by my statement, get off the internet, stop focusing on this pandemic and try to get your mental health back in-line.

    The poster isn't inventing things to stress over, they are stressed because there's a pandemic with numbers rising ridiculously fast and our health service is a shambles. Not reading about it doesn't make it go away.

    Unless you're a psychiatrist or a counsellor, you probably should refrain from advising strangers on how to manage their mental health.

    Personally, I actually feel worse not being informed on what's going on, I worry more when I don't have all the information. Everyone manages anxiety differently and having a dig at someone who is suffering with the state of things at the moment is just unkind.


  • #7994
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Having read about 100 pages of this thread today and most if not all of your messages, I stand by my statement, get off the internet, stop focusing on this pandemic and try to get your mental health back in-line.

    There's a couple more who have thanked your post that could do with the same. Anytime I dip in, they are here arguing the same points in a different way. Sustained activity on this thread would not be good for anyone's mental health.

    Very important to take time away.


  • #7995
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    If they are stopping "non-urgent care" ( e.g. screening? surgeries? radiology for terminally ill cancer patients?) but leaving primary schools stay open then... well if anyone's organizing a very socially distanced protest I'll be there


    It seems the new strain has no problem spreading from child to child (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55406939), meaning if we leave schools stay open it will become the dominant strain


  • #7996
    Lollipop95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Having read about 100 pages of this thread today and most if not all of your messages, I stand by my statement, get off the internet, stop focusing on this pandemic and try to get your mental health back in-line.

    Not the OP but I wish I could do that. I’m back living with my parents since last March because of lockdown and work/accommodation issues. They are both over 65 and I can’t ever avoid the cases because they’re both agonising over them as soon as they’re announced, especially now! It’s so draining. Not least because my mother regularly tells me that she thinks this virus will end the world! I was meant to be going back to my office and moving into my new house this month, but this lockdown has put an end to that


  • #7997
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Why are check points required to enforce the lockdown?

    Why don't the general public just do it?

    One word - Optics

    Passed through plenty of checkpoints in November and was only stopped once. Gardai standing on the side of the road with floodlights on and a couple of cars with flashing lights is a way for the government to be seen to be taking action.


  • #7998
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    rob316 wrote: »
    Is there a lag in deaths now? With such a dramatic case figure rise, I was expecting deaths to jump too. Hopefully not obviously

    The deaths now are people who tested positive more than a month ago, when the cases were 200 a day

    On average, if you are going to die of this it happens about a month after symptoms, though of course some people die in days and some people are in ICU for months and months


  • #7999
    AutoTuning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭AutoTuning


    I think we need to be a bit reasonable. Take away food / coffee didn’t cause any spike previously.

    What’s causing this spike was a surge Christmas socialising, travel and mingling. That’s very clear as all those other things were going on at lower levels of restrictions and without significant problems.

    We need to deal with the problem we actually have not go after the things that were and continue to be very low risk.

    There isn’t any likelihood of a second surge of Xmas mania, so the figures hopefully should drop if we just stay at home as much as possible for the next few weeks and starve the virus of hosts.

    We definitely let our hair down way too dramatically at Xmas. It’a against everything in our nature and culture to not socialise, particularly at Christmas but that’s really what has driven this. It’s unfortunate, but that’s the reality of it.


  • #8000
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Took the majority of Christmas off from all COVID related stuff on boards. I'd highly recommend it from time to time to recharge the batteries!


  • #8001
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    We started opening up on December 1st. You wouldn't expect to see much growth for 10-14 days after that.

    And that's what happened. It grew steadily for a few days, and then went mad.

    The growth rate and the rate of cases are not the same. The growth rate was at October levels by the 14th. It went mad on the 23rd. Relaxing restrictions returned us to October growth, people heading home, visiting, parties etc drove it nuts


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  • #8002
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    I wish I could do that. I’m back living with my parents since last March because of lockdown and work/accommodation issues. They are both over 65 and I can’t ever avoid the cases because they’re both agonising over them as soon as they’re announced, especially now! It’s so draining. Not least because my mother regularly tells me that she thinks this virus will end the world! I was meant to be going back to my office and moving into my new house this month, but this lockdown has put an end to that

    I can relate Lollipop, I live with my parents who are both in their 70’s - it’s very worrying. My parents wouldn’t be as obsessive as your parents sound (!) but they are no doubt worried, as am I. It’s certainly very draining. I thought there would be an end to this by April/May, not so sure at the moment :-(


  • #8003
    Glebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,153 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Any concerned posters on this thread for the love of god do not watch the new TV version of Stephen Kings, The Stand.


  • #8004
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The new admissions data only goes back to the start of April, however if you look at the daily change in Hospital cases data, this was about 100 per day in the last week of March

    I didn't realise that. Thanks


  • #8005
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    HSE briefing tonight?


  • #8006
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Glebee wrote: »
    Any concerned posters on this thread for the love of god do not watch the new TV version of Stephen Kings, The Stand.

    Lol I have that book....never finished it funnily enough!


  • #8007
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bazermc wrote: »
    HSE briefing tonight?

    5:30 so sixish


  • #8008
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    bazermc wrote: »
    HSE briefing tonight?

    Yes, starts 5.30, so 6.15


  • #8009
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Not the OP but I wish I could do that. I’m back living with my parents since last March because of lockdown and work/accommodation issues. They are both over 65 and I can’t ever avoid the cases because they’re both agonising over them as soon as they’re announced, especially now! It’s so draining. Not least because my mother regularly tells me that she thinks this virus will end the world! I was meant to be going back to my office and moving into my new house this month, but this lockdown has put an end to that


    That's awful, Pop. There was a doctor saying the government should give the numbers out weekly instead of daily: it seems like we are getting more information this way but really we aren't. It's the same information over and over, it's wrecking our heads. We could all be half way into a bachelor's in epidemiology if we were spending this time doing intensive study instead of intensively reading the same numbers and the same facts over and over. This is not helping us cope


  • #8010
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    There's a couple more who have thanked your post that could do with the same. Anytime I dip in, they are here arguing the same points in a different way. Sustained activity on this thread would not be good for anyone's mental health.

    Very important to take time away.

    I spent way too much time in March and April - and ended up staying off boards for like 4 months - only came back for FF reasons. and popped into here last week/

    If anyone has any mental issues worries, struggles - boards is not the answer - go for a walk, do couch to 5k, do push up, do pull up, learn a language, binge on Netflix, study for a qualification, read a book, play games. There are hundreds of things you can do that doesn't involve looking at your phone/boards all day long.


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  • #8011
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    thelad95 wrote: »
    This takeaway coffee/pints/food nonsense needs to stop. Those workers are all typically on top of each other in small, individually owned businesses with no room for social distancing, same with the customers that enter all breathing down each others necks.

    There was none of that crap in April and people surivived just fine, let everyone stay at home and let's get through this. Since the first lockdown, the government has paid way too much heed to industry influence, just close the country down,.give people no incentive to travel/meet up and we can ride through this.

    Also, the list of essential business is a joke, parents can't get clothes for children but I can get my car washed.....? Serious level of cop on needed now including keeping children at home, are they seriously considering sending 25% of the population into crowded, poorly ventilated rooms on Monday when we're getting 5000 positive swabs a day?

    Takeaway food definitely started in the first lockdown. Locally there are less restaurants doing takeout at the moment then there was previously because they can’t make money from it. Waiting outside for a coffee isn’t reason numbers have rocketed. It’s meeting people indoors.

    People moved around the country, everyone know January would bring tough new restrictions so many people said they may as well meet people while it was allowed.

    From what I am hearing there are many people in offices today that could work from home last March/April. That seriously has to stop. If your staff can work from home let them.


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