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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7712
    embraer170
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Germany is extending it's harsh lockdown until 31st of January. Since the 16th of December, schools, most shops, restaurants and bars are closed.

    We on the other hand are still mulling over extending the school closures, despite being in a significantly worse way.

    Is that confirmed anywhere? As far as I can tell, Germany is still negotiating with itself.


  • #7713
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    polesheep wrote: »
    I was flying around today using my home made wings. I'm sorry I can't post the evidence.

    A very somatic... belief.


  • #7714
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Lucky you but I don't think it's a good idea to base our public health strategy in a pandemic on the fact that you never got sick? It's not about YOU. If you are selling any supplements that might interest me though.

    I was just giving an edge case example. Anyway, I can sell you some of my plentiful supply of antibodies, t-cells etc for 1 million dollars


  • #7715
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Pot.. kettle...

    Making tea? Use the kettle.


  • #7716
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    embraer170 wrote: »
    Is that confirmed anywhere? As far as I can tell, Germany is still negotiating with itself.

    I got it from the Guardian live feed

    Here's a relevant article from bloomberg
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-04/germany-to-extend-lockdown-amid-criticism-over-vaccine-rollout


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  • #7717
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1346071094118244372?s=20


  • #7718
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    We on the other hand are still mulling over extending the school closures, despite being in a significantly worse way.
    We're at a different stage than Germany, there's no real comparison yet.

    Germany are panicking because a strong improvement in numbers following their lockdown appears to have stalled around October levels, which is the equivalent of 1,000 cases/day for us.

    We're two weeks behind them, so we won't know until the 18th or so whether we see the same stalling effect, or if we will pull back to where we were in late Novembr.


  • #7719
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Whatever about Covid, not sure crawling in the mud is the key to beating Kerry or the Dubs. :pac:

    Or Tipperary!


  • #7720
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    It's seems paradoxical to tell people to stay at home except for exercise and grocery shopping when you still have places doing takeaway pints and the likes.


  • #7721
    eggy81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Is there any chance they shut down construction for a couple of weeks with schools.


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  • #7722
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    The Covid tracker app displays as a graph daily case numbers to date.

    It use to display cases in increments of 100’s but has now been updated to show increments of 1000’s.

    Way things are going that might have to change to 10,000’s.


  • #7723
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    seamus wrote: »
    We're at a different stage than Germany, there's no real comparison yet.

    Germany are panicking because a strong improvement in numbers following their lockdown appears to have stalled around October levels, which is the equivalent of 1,000 cases/day for us.

    We're two weeks behind them, so we won't know until the 18th or so whether we see the same stalling effect, or if we will pull back to where we were in late Novembr.

    Seamus, in the last few days we've had the highest incidence rate in the world.
    Germany, even at their worst, never had numbers like we do now.

    If Germany are struggling to get numbers under control with a harsh lockdown (that spanned Christmas day too), then why would we feel we'll be able to get where we need to be with lighter restrictions?

    Check out the list of countries on the left. Guess who's winning.
    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=&region=World&positiveTestRate=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc


  • #7724
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    seamus wrote: »
    We're at a different stage than Germany, there's no real comparison yet.
    Our daily cases per capita are ~4 times theirs.. That our restrictions should be at least as "harsh" seems reasonable.


  • #7725
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do you honestly believe that this is the only coronavirus that won't reinfect? Again we are not even a year into this and it is shutting down economy and schools AGAIN. Here's what other coronavirus' look like on a longer term.

    It's a bit more complicated than that in fairness. Reinfections from common cold coronaviruses tend to be shorter in duration with a shorter shedding period and milder symptoms (if any at all). Immunity from infection and immunity from severe infection are two different things. I don't think anyone realistically expects the former to be long term but there is some evidence that the latter is.


  • #7726
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I reckon we'll have a lockdown until after Paddy's Day.

    And I think that's the right thing to do. But then again, I still have my job so it's easy for me to say that.

    Damned if you do and damned if you don't.


  • #7727
    Lashes28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    Will it be this afternoon when they release yesterdays swab results?


  • #7728
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Will it be this afternoon when they release yesterdays swab results?

    Yeah, usually sometime after 2pm, but could easily be 4pm or so


  • #7729
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Do we know the total number of All deaths In Ireland for 2020 yet?


  • #7730
    leanin2019
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭leanin2019


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I reckon we'll have a lockdown until after Paddy's Day.

    And I think that's the right thing to do. But then again, I still have my job so it's easy for me to say that.

    Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    Probably right with regards to hospitality but IF things improve significantly perhaps they will reopen retail, and leisure/gyms before that? Maybe even barbers and hairdressers


  • #7731
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Will we see or hear from Norma this month i wonder ffs, fully expect these idiots to put 1million+ individuals back into circulation the 11th to prove a ****ing point


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  • #7732
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hardyn wrote: »
    It's a bit more complicated than that in fairness. Reinfections from common cold coronaviruses tend to be shorter in duration with a shorter shedding period and milder symptoms (if any at all). Immunity from infection and immunity from severe infection are two different things. I don't think anyone realistically expects the former to be long term but there is some evidence that the latter is.

    Infections with Sars-CoV-2 also tend to be milder in those with recent common cold coronavirus.

    Reinfections over time will eventually see Sars-CoV-2 becoming the 5th common cold coronavirus. The vaccine will accelerate the process


  • #7733
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Will we see or hear from Norma this month i wonder ffs, fully expect these idiots to put 1million+ individuals back into circulation the 11th to prove a ****ing point

    The government isn't quite as mad as you think. Schools will not be opening for quite some time, there is no doubt about it. The leaking will start today or tomorrow, and announced midweek I would guess.


  • #7734
    Widescreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    They should be creative with schools. try and get the exam year students back at least so they don't miss out on proper exams like last years pupils did.

    Also ensure all students are properly schooled online and that they are not roaming the streets causing more spread than if they were at school.


  • #7735
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    The government isn't quite as mad as you think. Schools will not be opening for quite some time, there is no doubt about it. The leaking will start today or tomorrow, and announced midweek I would guess.

    Yet we had our minister for special education today on a radio interview confirming she fully expects schools to open as normal on the 11th


  • #7736
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Widescreen wrote: »
    They should be creative with schools. try and get the exam year students back at least so they don't miss out on proper exams like last years pupils did.

    Also ensure all students are properly schooled online and that they are not roaming the streets causing more spread than if they were at school.

    Thats the job of a good parent not a school.


  • #7737
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    eggy81 wrote: »
    Is there any chance they shut down construction for a couple of weeks with schools.

    if schools close they absolutely should close construction also.


  • #7738
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Yet we had our minister for special education today on a radio interview confirming she fully expects schools to open as normal on the 11th

    I find it hard to believe she actually makes any decisions herself of any consequence.

    Edit: Actually meant Minister for Education, but it can apply to both.


  • #7739
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Will it be this afternoon when they release yesterdays swab results?

    If you are on twitter, create an alert for @COVID19DataIE

    h/t Shane Hastings


  • #7740
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Yet we had our minister for special education today on a radio interview confirming she fully expects schools to open as normal on the 11th

    Yes, the Communications strategy is bonkers but there is no way schools can open with infection rates as they are. NPHET will advise them not to open schools and that will give them the cover they want. I'd be surprised if the CMO hasn't already issued the letter


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  • #7741
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Seamus, in the last few days we've had the highest incidence rate in the world.
    Germany, even at their worst, never had numbers like we do now.

    If Germany are struggling to get numbers under control with a harsh lockdown (that spanned Christmas day too), then why would we feel we'll be able to get where we need to be with lighter restrictions?

    Check out the list of countries on the left. Guess who's winning.
    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=&region=World&positiveTestRate=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc


    Jaysus, This confirms my theory that Ireland has the best Christmas in the world......ever. We should have been doubly cautious.


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