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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7142
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    majcos wrote: »
    Just got a text message to let me know my Covid swab from yesterday came back as not detected which is great news except I didn’t have a Covid swab done.....��

    Maybe they’re texting you to tell you they can’t find (detect) your test.....which would be the case in fairness :pac::pac:


  • #7143
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Why?, unless the vaccines don't work? By July we should have 70% of pop vaccinated.

    Where are you getting that from?

    Eamon Ryan today said 40k per week.


  • #7144
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    bluefivetwo23 wrote: »
    Does anyone know is it worth ones while reporting their work place for breach of restrictions? If so to who would I report it?

    HSA I think. Dunno if it's worth it. I can imagine they'll be flooded by now.


  • #7145
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The people need to start a movement.

    Tell the EU they have till the 1st June to get everybody outside of the healthy 18-54 age group vaccinated. No excuses.

    LOL why tell the EU and why for Ireland - Why should people in Ireland who blantently as a society on whole ignore the government health messages, get the vaccine any earlier than someone in NZ or in Africa or anywhere else for that matter?


  • #7146
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    bluefivetwo23 wrote: »
    Does anyone know is it worth ones while reporting their work place for breach of restrictions? If so to who would I report it?

    This works: https://www.hsa.ie/eng/customer_service/make_a_complaint/ As far as I know they keep it anonymous and your workplace never finds out it was you.


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  • #7147
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    It comes to a point where mass testing is pointless.

    The virus is rampant.


  • #7148
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    HSA I think. Dunno if it's worth it. I can imagine they'll be flooded by now.

    my friends and family will tell you that my personal philosophy is: it's always worth complaining


  • #7149
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Why?, unless the vaccines don't work? By July we should have 70% of pop vaccinated.

    Unless it mutates beyond the efficacy of vaccines. I'd say in 8 months time (even less) no more restrictions etc.. IMO

    Unless a lot more vaccines come on the market, by July we won't even have 70% of diabetic people vaccinated, let alone 70% of the population. This is what a diabetic friend was told, hopefully by a very pessimistic doctor?


  • #7150
    Louis Friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Louis Friend


    The end is in sight. We’ll be in the clear by July.


  • #7151
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    bluefivetwo23 wrote: »
    Does anyone know is it worth ones while reporting their work place for breach of restrictions? If so to who would I report it?

    Always worth reporting workplaces. They shouldn't be playing with people's health. Report to health and safety authority.


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  • #7152
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    This is the sh1te that happens when a paddy Irishman led country,half arses 3 or 4 Mickey Mouse lockdowns.
    They lost the initial support of the people by repeating the Mickey mouseism instead of doing it properly like Queensland for example from the start.
    All that’s left now is the one trick pony, circus sideshow with the same couple of clowns beating the same drum.
    People are fed up with this endless fcukin nonsense.
    Another round of applause for the front line workers perhaps?
    Fcukin jokeshop

    Simon Coveney was on Radio 1 at lunchtime declaring his intent that schools would reopen on January 11th. What's the point in advertising a supposed level 5 when it doesn't meet the criteria at all? Hundreds of pupils mingling together, and all the parents congregating at the gate...there's your oversized petri dish. Combine that with the sloth-like delivery of the vaccine by the "I'll just take a few weeks off" HSE and this nonsense drags out for months. Cringeworthy.


  • #7153
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    my friends and family will tell you that my personal philosophy is: it's always worth complaining

    Not 100% sure about that. Sometimes complaints come back and bite you in the arse. My personal philosophy is I'm trying to use complaints wise, trying, not that I'm succeeding :D


  • #7154
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Untrue .
    Crowded and busy yes .
    No beds for people .
    People sitting on chairs waiting for trolleys waiting for a bed.
    Not with an infectious disease rampant infecting staff and healthcare workers ( some would get flu, yes, but not to the extent that people are catching Covid ) for which there is no preventative other than PPE and isolation.
    Covid and busy A&E s and overcrowded hospitals do not coexist at all .
    Most years there might be one ward with flu patients in any given hospital , not half the hospital .
    Patients admitted are overwhelmingly sicker than with flu as this affects multiple body systems at a rapid pace once one us sick enough to be admitted.
    And what happens when there aren't any spaces left for Covid patients ?
    General admissions get cancelled ..operations ..appointments ..treatments .
    Please do not conflate this with other years , it is patently not the same .

    Its not the same. We are in the middle of a pandemic. Its a bad situation but I will say when it comes to deaths we won't surpass what we seen in April, which was bad but nowhere near as bad as what was predicted at the start of the pandemic. The next few weeks will be rough for anybody working in a hospital and will be disappointing for a lot of people who are waiting for procedures etc as they will likely be cancelled BUT we have learned from the first wave that restrictions work and we know 2 weeks from now things will be bad but we will be near a peak then things should start improving.


  • #7155
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Simon Coveney was on Radio 1 at lunchtime declaring his intent that schools would reopen on January 11th. What's the point in advertising a supposed level 5 when it doesn't meet the criteria at all? Hundreds of pupils mingling together, and all the parents congregating at the gate...there's your oversized petri dish. Combine that with the sloth-like delivery of the vaccine by the "I'll just take a few weeks off" HSE and this nonsense drags out for months. Cringeworthy.

    Yeah I have to pass a school on my way to work and there are always dozens and dozens of parents outside chatting with no masks on. It seems to me that they have the kids staggered by age, which is a great idea, but they should also stagger the parents by COP ON.


  • #7156
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Its not the same. We are in the middle of a pandemic. Its a bad situation but I will say when it comes to deaths we won't surpass what we seen in April, which was bad but nowhere near as bad as what was predicted at the start of the pandemic. The next few weeks will be rough for anybody working in a hospital and will be disappointing for a lot of people who are waiting for procedures etc as they will likely be cancelled BUT we have learned from the first wave that restrictions work and we know 2 weeks from now things will be bad but we will be near a peak then things should start improving.

    Two weeks is when the new cases peak, two weeks is not when the hospitalizations peak, that will take longer and some hospitals are already at capacity right now.

    Edit: Sorry I'm being just the most negative now. It's just so distressing. Hospitals reaching capacity was always the worst case scenario, and we knew that, and we had all this information available to us and had so many opportunities to learn from other countries, and it has still happened.

    This winter was always going to be awful, but I didn't think it would be this dire.


  • #7157
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Schools cannot open next Monday, the dog on the street knows it.

    Why can't the government at least be straight with the public?

    Be realistic, say we will assess the level of infection weekly and give a weeks notice for opening..

    'We expect to be in a position to open on 18th January but if disease rate does not decline sufficiently it will be 25 January'


  • #7158
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    This works: https://www.hsa.ie/eng/customer_service/make_a_complaint/ As far as I know they keep it anonymous and your workplace never finds out it was you.

    Unless you're self employed


  • #7159
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Always worth reporting workplaces. They shouldn't be playing with people's health. Report to health and safety authority.

    Plenty the HSA themselves have non essential office workers who could work from home coming in to work every day. Haven't seen this addressed in any media but I have friends who are in this exact position and even though they have vulnerable relatives are being made to attend the office every day needlessly.


  • #7160
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I can HEAR the hysteria here.

    Look, just observe the rules, limit contacts and so on. Forget about Christmas, that's done and dusted and probably did contribute to the current situation alright, but in fairness most of us were careful, very careful. It's the exceptionalist idiots who did this to us buying their pyjamas and so on, and I am not impressed.

    It is like when I was at primary school, and the whole class was grounded because of some idiot.

    And breathe....


  • #7161
    JacksonHeightsOwn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Schools cannot open next Monday, the dog on the street knows it.

    Why can't the government at least be straight with the public?

    Be realistic, say we will assess the level of infection weekly and give a weeks notice for opening..

    'We expect to be in a position to open on 18th January but if disease rate does not decline sufficiently it will be 25 January'

    I think the parents will decide it for them.

    We have a child in junior infants and we've decided if they open up tomorrow week, we're keeping him home. I've asked two other friends their opinion and they're doing the same.

    Unfortunately alot of children are minded by grand parents, mine included. I can't expect my parents to look after my kids with this going on. It's beyond selfish, it's bloody negligence as a human being


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  • #7162
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Families of positive cases who cannot isolate will have to stay at home for 17 days now, not 14

    Not sure if its official though, wasn't it 14 days before?
    In a letter to GPs, Dr Nuala O’Connor of the Irish College of General Practitioners said:”It is possible in the coming weeks that we may revert to targeted testing of symptomatic groups rather than testing everyone with symptoms as we did in the first phase of the pandemic.”

    The guidance also said that If close contacts have ongoing exposure to the person with COVID-19, such as a family member who cannot self-isolate- a child or dependant adult- then the family must stay at home for 17 days.

    It also emerged that 25pc of people who test positive are not answering the first call from public health staff asking for a list of their contacts.

    https://m.independent.ie/news/under-pressure-hse-may-have-to-stop-offering-covid-19-testing-to-people-who-have-symptoms-39927133.html


  • #7163
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Two weeks is when the new cases peak, two weeks is not when the hospitalizations peak, that will take longer and some hospitals are already at capacity right now.

    No new cases will peak by next week. I image most of the damage was done in the lead up to Xmas and the few days over Xmas which would suggest we will hit the infection peak over the next week.


  • #7164
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Yeah I have to pass a school on my way to work and there are always dozens and dozens of parents outside chatting with no masks on. It seems to me that they have the kids staggered by age, which is a great idea, but they should also stagger the parents by COP ON.

    Just after talking to a guy I work with. Seems like school bus in local primary NS won't be running and no more dropping kids to local childminder, which did the school runs as well. So the solution they came up with, parents will take turns and collect few kids from other families to replace school bus. Everyday different person will collect say 5 kids from different families and he thinks it's smart thing to do..


  • #7165
    oceanman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭oceanman


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    my friends and family will tell you that my personal philosophy is: it's always worth complaining
    maurice mc cabe ?


  • #7166
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Arghus wrote: »
    It is an optimistic post and one that I really hope is right. I sincerely do.

    But I don't think it is Niallo, unfortunately.

    We aren't at the peak of this yet and hospital admissions are continuing to rise at a staggering rate and because of the lag effect they will continue to rise AFTER the peak has passed. We're in a grave situation.

    And if numbers stabilise or peak very soon they'll still be topping out at an enormous figure. Even if those case numbers descend it will be weeks and weeks before they truly come down a level where hospitals can cope.

    This is a brutal reality we're facing now, there's no two ways about it.

    I don't know what to say really at this point, I feel very empty at the moment. I think the only thing I'll do tonight is drink a whiskey and then another after that.

    There's no satisfaction in your worst fears being realised.

    Yes but no point in beating yourself up about it, you did nothing wrong, we just need to get on with it now and not make the situation worse. The chances of this affecting anyone personally are still pretty small in which I mean death or serious illness.


  • #7167
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Schools cannot open next Monday, the dog on the street knows it.

    Why can't the government at least be straight with the public?

    Be realistic, say we will assess the level of infection weekly and give a weeks notice for opening..

    'We expect to be in a position to open on 18th January but if disease rate does not decline sufficiently it will be 25 January'

    My guess of what will happen next week is that Government will ask NPHET if it is safe to open schools. NPHET will say it is not safe (because of uncontrolled community spread) and Government will say it wants to open the schools but can't because of NPHET advice.

    It would be good to have a case number and hospital capacity target for when schools can reopen.


  • #7168
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Arghus wrote: »

    I don't know what to say really at this point, I feel very empty at the moment. I think the only thing I'll do tonight is drink a whiskey and then another after that.

    Finally, someone with a plan!


  • #7169
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    No new cases will peak by next week. I image most of the damage was done in the lead up to Xmas and the few days over Xmas which would suggest we will hit the infection peak over the next week.

    No one knows when the peak is gonna happen, too many variables in it. And certainly it won't be next week. Way too early


  • #7170
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Schools cannot open next Monday, the dog on the street knows it.

    Why can't the government at least be straight with the public?

    Be realistic, say we will assess the level of infection weekly and give a weeks notice for opening..

    'We expect to be in a position to open on 18th January but if disease rate does not decline sufficiently it will be 25 January'

    It’s just panic. The schools will not open next week, the dogs in the street know that. The problem is, if the schools close, what is the rationale for opening them again. We could really be looking at long term closures which would destroy the school year.


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  • #7171
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,052 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Indo saying an automatic test for symptomatic people won't be guaranteed as system can't cope.

    After 9 months we have got worse with testing and contact tracing
    https://forumofgames.com/




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