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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7052
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It's will be like a bomb going off when hundreds of thousands go back into their workplaces in the morning

    Seriously, I don't know what to do. I don't want to go into work. It's risky going in because you don't know who has it. I don't want to catch covid and I don't want to be bringing it home. I can't work from home.


  • #7053
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Daphne Mushy Searcher wrote: »
    You are wilfully trying to wind people up! You only need 10% of people to mess it up for the 90%. We have to try to try not further exacerbate the undue and unprecedented stress that our health system is under. This involves compliance. Otherwise, we all suffer

    Do you think we can get to 98 or 99% compliance. My original point was for posters saying if everyone followed restrictions we would only need level 3 or below. I was merely saying I think its impossible and foolish to expect that high compliance.


  • #7054
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Finally an optimistic post.

    Optimistic, and completely ignorant of how covid works


  • #7055
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I'm getting the feeling that they think I'm trying to encourage someone to break the 5km restrictions :D

    Some of you people need to leave the basement and stop reading what you want into things :D

    :confused:

    irony overload.........


  • #7056
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    People are a complete, complete joke. No matter how dire the situation gets, no matter how miserable, people continue supporting this utter sham of a government, refusing to ask for anything even remotely resembling a coherent plan.

    I have never been more disappointed with people as this. Economic lockdowns but no shutdowns of schools or borders. Complete and utter joke.

    Has there ever been more blind obedience to failure?


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  • #7057
    beaz2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭beaz2018


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?

    The military. Only option.


  • #7058
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?

    1. sky news always gives worst case scenario, they have always been the most hysterical broadcasters
    2. The UK never had a proper lockdown. Their tiers are not as strict as our levels and they always allowed a higher percentage of their population to have the virus and were always comfortable with having a higher death rate. They have the 10th highest deathrate for this in the world. We have the 46th.


  • #7059
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?

    Well the new strain boosts the R0 by between 0.4 and 0.7, so that immediately means its a whole lot harder to control it, it will require a stronger, more meaningful and well policed lockdown or things will continue to grow exponentially over the coming weeks.


  • #7060
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,053 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    A soldier delivering food to my door? The closest I'll get to a tinder date this year,I'll take it.

    Enjoy ;)
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #7061
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?

    Maybe it's airbourne like measles?

    It wouldn't surprise me. Hancock did looked shocked when he first talked about the new strain in Parliament.


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  • #7062
    beaz2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭beaz2018


    The_Brood wrote: »
    People are a complete, complete joke. No matter how dire the situation gets, no matter how miserable, people continue supporting this utter sham of a government, refusing to ask for anything even remotely resembling a coherent plan.

    I have never been more disappointed with people as this. Economic lockdowns but no shutdowns of schools or borders. Complete and utter joke.

    Has there ever been more blind obedience to failure?

    Economic lockdown is what Nphet has chosen. They have said so time and time again - education etc trumps economics in their view.


  • #7063
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Russman wrote: »
    Most crime can be stopped when enough resources are thrown at it, there’s countless examples of that down the years. Look at what the Gardai were able to do in Limerick city a few years back.

    Who is expecting 100% compliance anyway ? Nobody expects that, but it should be a lot more than it is now. Meaningful consequences would help - obviously the vast majority wouldn’t be affected but if examples were made of some, it might give pause for thought.

    Numerous posters have said if everyone just follows restrictions we would be out of this. I agree with your post, we need more compliance.


  • #7064
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I think the biggest worry is hospitals being under pressure over the next 2-3 weeks but don't forget the flu isn't around this year so it quiet normal for hospitals to be overrun in January. Dozens of people waiting on trolleys etc. It is bad but we are likely to be at the peak next week. Then it will fall back.

    Dozens of people on trolleys works particularly badly during an infectious disease pandemic.


  • #7065
    Warbeastrior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    My friend wants to go for a walk tomorrow.
    Would I be ok to do so?
    We wud be taking separate cars and in the open for the entire time.

    I'm taking this new strain very seriously.


  • #7066
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Well the new strain boosts the R0 by between 0.4 and 0.7, so that immediately means its a whole lot harder to control it, it will require a stronger, more meaningful and well policed lockdown or things will continue to grow exponentially over the coming weeks.

    The new strain is not responsible for the surge here. And the impact of the new strain on the r0 has being revised down significantly. At 0.4 it’s close to the margin of error in our ability to accurately calculate the r0 in the first place


  • #7067
    9db3xj7z41fs5u
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭9db3xj7z41fs5u


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Seriously, I don't know what to do. I don't want to go into work. It's risky going in because you don't know who has it. I don't want to catch covid and I don't want to be bringing it home. I can't work from home.

    You have more control over it than you realise. Just be sensible. Don't share cutlery. Try to minimise your contact with colleagues, beyond what is necessary. Try to adhere to social distancing. If not possible, then use your PPE correctly, and fastidious hand hygiene.

    Remember, this too shall pass. We shall be vaccinated soon. There will likely be a peak up to 10 days post-New Year's Eve, followed by a blip of up to a week beyond this (the lung problem->ARDs can occur up to 1 week after the onset of Covid). Hopefully then, we will see the numbers starting to normalise. And historically, there has always been a lower rate of hospitalisation in Spring and Summer. "Come what come may, time and the hour runs through the roughest day"


  • #7068
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Seriously, I don't know what to do. I don't want to go into work. It's risky going in because you don't know who has it. I don't want to catch covid and I don't want to be bringing it home. I can't work from home.

    I know the feeling :( it's so awful

    we are expected to risk the health of our families keep these companies afloat, and some of them... I don't even understand why some industries are open in levels 3 through 5, completely unessential


  • #7069
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    The military. Only option.

    We don't have a military.


  • #7070
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    j@utis wrote: »
    Yeeeees! I won't be able to go to work due to lack of childcare and I'm gonna be on MORE money receiving the covid payment (add the childcare expenses that I no longer have to pay). So win, win, here, keep going on with those numbers, 10k per day is a nice round number, we can do it!

    I don't think my job knows that I don't have kids. I never said anything. I might make up a surprise one.


  • #7071
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I don't agree with every aspect of the plan, but there is a coherent plan.

    The problem is that a lot of people are paying no heed to it.

    What coherent plan? Any plan that has ever dependent on the willful and total compliance of the near totality of the population, without almost any enforcement, is doomed to failure. Everyone knows this. The cavemen knew this. A 2 year old knows this. But the government puts all of our entire collective futures on the line by making such a plan, and people think it is 'coherent'?

    Absolute and complete madness. Absolute joke.


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  • #7072
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why don't we stop all crime so, we can change certain behaviours and we are trying our best I believe but some posters in here expecting 100% compliance is fairytale thinking.

    It is the misguided stuff that infuriates me. Hearts and minds is far more effective.

    We also need to realise that the immediate future is already destined by the past, and the focus is to minimise the riskiest behaviour, have consistent messaging, and not to engage in a blame game.


  • #7073
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    1. sky news always gives worst case scenario, they have always been the most hysterical broadcasters
    2. The UK never had a proper lockdown. Their tiers are not as strict as our levels and they always allowed a higher percentage of their population to have the virus and were always comfortable with having a higher death rate. They have the 10th highest deathrate for this in the world. We have the 46th.

    Exactly this.

    The UK isn't in lockdown as it stands and SAGE have said time and time again that the tier system doesn't work.


  • #7074
    Musefan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Musefan


    Dreading returning to work. I have to go in as an essential worker, but I could get most of my essential work done at home if only we were given access to the IT systems that we need. We were at home during lockdown one, but the company developed a return to work policy that does not seem to take into account how we would work when infection rates got high again. As a result, during lockdown one, I worked at home from Monday to Friday and needed to then go into work on Sat/Sun so I could get access to IT systems when the building was quiet.

    Instead, I will need to go in to a shared office. There's a limited number of people per room so I will have to hot desk. That means I am using a computer, mouse, keyboard, phone & desk that someone else has used the day before. There are shared resources in each office so we will be in and out of each others spaces all day. There is no room to socially distance at lunch which means lunch will be at my desk too.


  • #7075
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    We don't have a military.

    Well maybe in the face of complete and total societal collapse and ruin.....it's time to get one?


  • #7076
    sidcon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭sidcon


    Today's cases are roughly 3x the previous limit days of ~1,700.

    Yesterday was 2x.

    Looks like circumventing the IT problem by starting a second/third new day on the system, but treating it all as one day?


  • #7077
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Eivor wrote: »
    The backlog is confusing me. Why aren’t they just announcing them all at once and how are they deciding how many to announce in a day?

    These are positive swab results but cannot be confirmed until checked against patient identifier and history to rule out whether they are test of previously positive cases .
    It has been explained before that it requires human input on a slow IT system which cannot cope with more than a couple of thousand a day , and which is being worked on to update .
    Not good and inadequate...yes.


  • #7078
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Warbeastrior wrote: »
    My friend wants to go for a walk tomorrow.
    Would I be ok to do so?
    We wud be taking separate cars and in the open for the entire time.

    I'm taking this new strain very seriously.

    Not sure it you want what people consider safe or the actual restrictions.

    Driving suggests outside your 5km for a start and you're not supposed to meet up with somebody else for exercise. Personally I'm giving it all a miss until the restrictions are lifted, so we can get a Good run at things, but to each their own.


  • #7079
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Warbeastrior wrote: »
    My friend wants to go for a walk tomorrow.
    Would I be ok to do so?
    We wud be taking separate cars and in the open for the entire time.

    I'm taking this new strain very seriously.

    Officially that's allowed, right?
    -both wearing masks
    -at least 2m away at all times

    I don't know what to tell you. There are a lot of unanswered questions about the new strain. We don't know how much more infectious it is or what that means about existing precautions. We don't even know, we just assume, that the vaccine will work on it.

    I think, if it was me, I would wait until next month when the hospitals are no longer being pushed to their limits. But wishing you all the best, whatever you decide.


  • #7080
    9db3xj7z41fs5u
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭9db3xj7z41fs5u


    The_Brood wrote: »
    What coherent plan? Any plan that has ever dependent on the willful and total compliance of the near totality of the population, without almost any enforcement, is doomed to failure. Everyone knows this. The cavemen knew this. A 2 year old knows this. But the government puts all of our entire collective futures on the line by making such a plan, and people think it is 'coherent'?

    Absolute and complete madness. Absolute joke.

    Unfortunately, the government will be slaughtered by a certain cohort of people if they start enforcing it severely. There will a group that will accuse them of denying civil liberties. The government is in the difficult position of trying to appease society at large. For every sensible poster on Boards, there is an idiot out there who thinks that it is their right to do as they please


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  • #7081
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,582 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    only 7 deaths. A positive in the huge cases announced today.


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