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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7022
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I don't understand the price debates going on too long part? Throw whatever money they want at it. There should be no debating on it.

    That's not really fair, you have to fix a price that's fair for each nation and make sure that developing countries can compete. Which they aren't doing, the only ones willing to sell to developing countries so far are China with their Sinovac vaccine and the UK's Oxford vaccine


  • #7023
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Russman


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Exactly and the sooner we accept this the better, it's the same for nearly other aspect of life so we need to get on with it and stop moaning like 10 year old girls about something we can't change.

    So what’s the answer then when hospitals are full ? “....Tough sh1t Mary, I know you had a heart attack but ICU is full of covid patients, what can ya do eh, them’s the breaks.....”

    Of course we can change behaviours, IF the political will is there to do it.


  • #7024
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    The main thing I take from these numbers is how widespread covid actually was in the first wave back in March/April. We had similar figures in hospital but the daily figures were quiet low.


    Yes, low testing back then and had to show symptoms to get tested. The real case numbers back in March and April was huge.


  • #7025
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Some gyms operating for regulars.


  • #7026
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Daphne Mushy Searcher wrote: »
    People could submit a picture of their loved-ones? Like an obituary-style message?

    It was done during the summer before the news. And on the late late etc


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  • #7027
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    You mean like the lungs on the side of cigarette packets or the real life stories on road safety ads?

    Well I don't drive a car because I'm so afraid of knocking someone down to the sound of Samantha Mumba so they do work


  • #7028
    9db3xj7z41fs5u
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭9db3xj7z41fs5u


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    This is such an incredibly odd suggestion. Use the names and faces of dead people to scare / guilt people into compliance?

    If we're going to go down that road should we do the same for tobacco and alcohol related deaths?

    The difference between tobacco and alcohol and Covid is that Covid is an infectious disease and there are direct societal consequences to its spread. Apples and oranges


  • #7029
    brookers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭brookers


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Exactly and the sooner we accept this the better, it's the same for nearly other aspect of life so we need to get on with it and stop moaning like 10 year old girls about something we can't change.

    Hard though when you have to go into work, like I do tomorrow and face the public, some of whom could be infected and they may not even know it themselves or care......


  • #7030
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,186 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    They should consider naming the people who die on a daily basis - its far too easy to discount "x number of deaths" by saying ah sure it was just some auld one who had underlying conditions.

    Would be a different story of we were shown a picture of Mary from down the road


    It would do more harm to the issue as it would be clear the group of people it is harming most.


  • #7031
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    I recommended a place to buy coffee for someone earlier in this thread.
    I got quoted and I'm getting the feeling that they think I'm trying to encourage someone to break the 5km restrictions :D

    Some of you people need to leave the basement and stop reading what you want into things :D


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  • #7032
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,860 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    stargazer 68 wrote: »
    Then they dont get the vaccine. We are waiting on almost 100 consent forms to be returned to us. Will be interesting to see how many families will give consent.

    That's terrible. Is that in a nursing home ?
    Guess things handled differently when critically ill.


  • #7033
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Daphne Mushy Searcher wrote: »
    People could submit a picture of their loved-ones? Like an obituary-style message?

    The people I talk to who refuse to comply have somehow missed all of the news. They don't realize that young people can die of it, or that long covid exists. There ARE stories like this around. E.g. this healthcare assistant that died Xmas Eve: https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0101/1187231-healthcare-worker-death/

    There's at least one story like this a week on RTE but the covid-deniers intentionally avoid anything that makes them doubt their world view


  • #7034
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    I see that Eason are still open. I don’t see how they are considered an essential business.

    Ah you know, kids need to buy their pens and paper for school.

    Edit: but can't buy clothes.


  • #7035
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Russman wrote: »
    So what’s the answer then when hospitals are full ? “....Tough sh1t Mary, I know you had a heart attack but ICU is full of covid patients, what can ya do eh, them’s the breaks.....”

    Of course we can change behaviours, IF the political will is there to do it.

    Why don't we stop all crime so, we can change certain behaviours and we are trying our best I believe but some posters in here expecting 100% compliance is fairytale thinking.


  • #7036
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I recommended a place to buy coffee for someone earlier in this thread.
    I got quoted and I'm getting the feeling that they think I'm trying to encourage someone to break the 5km restrictions :D

    Some of you people need to leave the basement and stop reading what you want into things :D


    I haven't been able to go to a café or see my parents since March, and that's true for most people, so it kind of feels like you are gleefully rubbing it in!


  • #7037
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I recommended a place to buy coffee for someone earlier in this thread.
    I got quoted and I'm getting the feeling that they think I'm trying to encourage someone to break the 5km restrictions :D

    Some of you people need to leave the basement and stop reading what you want into things :D

    I think you'll find most people here did not even notice your coffee talk.


  • #7038
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    I think we need to put all this in context. Level 5 restrictions were introduced last week. We should see those having an impact soon. The vaccine will likely be rolled out to nursing homes etc so we probably wont see the same high death rate we seen in the first wave.

    I think the biggest worry is hospitals being under pressure over the next 2-3 weeks but don't forget the flu isn't around this year so it quiet normal for hospitals to be overrun in January. Dozens of people waiting on trolleys etc. It is bad but we are likely to be at the peak next week. Then it will fall back.


  • #7039
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I recommended a place to buy coffee for someone earlier in this thread.
    I got quoted and I'm getting the feeling that they think I'm trying to encourage someone to break the 5km restrictions :D

    Some of you people need to leave the basement and stop reading what you want into things :D

    Now you're encouraging to leave the basement! When will the covidiocy end?


  • #7040
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    I think you'll find most people here did not even notice your coffee talk.

    the coffee post and the post about turnips and carrots are the only things I feel I truly engaged with


  • #7041
    Lollipop95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?


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  • #7042
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    I haven't been able to go to a café or see my parents since March, and that's true for most people, so it kind of feels like you are gleefully rubbing it in!

    Not really. I just saw two people talking about making coffee at home so thought I'd recommend a product they may like.

    If some people haven't gone out or seen anyone since March, that's their own thing, their own decision. I can't help that.


  • #7043
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I think we need to put all this in context. Level 5 restrictions were introduced last week. We should see those having an impact soon. The vaccine will likely be rolled out to nursing homes etc so we probably wont see the same high death rate we seen in the first wave.

    I think the biggest worry is hospitals being under pressure over the next 2-3 weeks but don't forget the flu isn't around this year so it quiet normal for hospitals to be overrun in January. Dozens of people waiting on trolleys etc. It is bad but we are likely to be at the peak next week. Then it will fall back.

    We won't know as they won't test close contacts


  • #7044
    9db3xj7z41fs5u
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭9db3xj7z41fs5u


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why don't we stop all crime so, we can change certain behaviours and we are trying our best I believe but some posters in here expecting 100% compliance is fairytale thinking.

    You are wilfully trying to wind people up! You only need 10% of people to mess it up for the 90%. We have to try to try not further exacerbate the undue and unprecedented stress that our health system is under. This involves compliance. Otherwise, we all suffer


  • #7045
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,186 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?


    Curfews after 8pm perhaps.


  • #7046
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I think we need to put all this in context. Level 5 restrictions were introduced last week. We should see those having an impact soon. The vaccine will likely be rolled out to nursing homes etc so we probably wont see the same high death rate we seen in the first wave.

    I think the biggest worry is hospitals being under pressure over the next 2-3 weeks but don't forget the flu isn't around this year so it quiet normal for hospitals to be overrun in January. Dozens of people waiting on trolleys etc. It is bad but we are likely to be at the peak next week. Then it will fall back.

    Finally an optimistic post.


  • #7047
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I think we need to put all this in context. Level 5 restrictions were introduced last week. We should see those having an impact soon. The vaccine will likely be rolled out to nursing homes etc so we probably wont see the same high death rate we seen in the first wave.

    I think the biggest worry is hospitals being under pressure over the next 2-3 weeks but don't forget the flu isn't around this year so it quiet normal for hospitals to be overrun in January. Dozens of people waiting on trolleys etc. It is bad but we are likely to be at the peak next week. Then it will fall back.

    I hope you are right!

    I don't think it will peak till a little over 2 weeks after new years eve

    and some hospitals are already at capacity

    Also NI were asking us to take some of their patients, imagine if we had held the line, we could have saved the lives of the people who NI hospitals are having to turn away this week, not only that, we will probably have to turn away people too.. hopefully not.. but


  • #7048
    bluefivetwo23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭bluefivetwo23


    Restrictions need to change. I work for a well known coffee company that is currently doing take away only. All of us staff are on top of each other with no separation whatsoever and when busy there can be a huge amount of people congregating in the cafe waiting to order or collect their drinks.

    Takeaway only should be order online and collect at a hatch, not allowing people to be in the premises congregated together. And that’s not even getting started on how there is no separation between members of staff whatsoever.


  • #7049
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Sky News suggesting that lockdowns as we know them don’t seem to be working anymore against the new strain. So what now?

    If lockdowns don't stop you from getting the new strain, if nothing stops you from getting the new strain then, nothing else for it.


  • #7050
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Russman


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why don't we stop all crime so, we can change certain behaviours and we are trying our best I believe but some posters in here expecting 100% compliance is fairytale thinking.

    Most crime can be stopped when enough resources are thrown at it, there’s countless examples of that down the years. Look at what the Gardai were able to do in Limerick city a few years back.

    Who is expecting 100% compliance anyway ? Nobody expects that, but it should be a lot more than it is now. Meaningful consequences would help - obviously the vast majority wouldn’t be affected but if examples were made of some, it might give pause for thought.


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  • #7051
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I think we need to put all this in context. Level 5 restrictions were introduced last week. We should see those having an impact soon. The vaccine will likely be rolled out to nursing homes etc so we probably wont see the same high death rate we seen in the first wave.

    I think the biggest worry is hospitals being under pressure over the next 2-3 weeks but don't forget the flu isn't around this year so it quiet normal for hospitals to be overrun in January. Dozens of people waiting on trolleys etc. It is bad but we are likely to be at the peak next week. Then it will fall back.

    No it won't fall back. Hospitalisations will continue to grow for long after cases peak.

    This is nothing like a normal year. Our hospitals are going to be so consumed with covid that little else will take place.


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