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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    This is such a weird virus. How is it affecting people differently?


    Good immune function versus bad immune function, lot of vitamin D in the system versus vitamin D deficiency. Healthy V unhealthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Anyone going into a crowded or busy office after the Christmas, with all that's gone on, is at big risk tomorrow. I'm not going in, I will WFH. How they take it, I care not. I'll do my work. Doubt they'll reprimand me. If they do, I'll put in my notice.

    It’s like last March all over again when it was obvious that it was rampant in Ireland but Ireland INC did it’s best to carry on as if there was nothing to see. Oh and schools once again are a special environment ringfenced from outbreaks for some reason yet to be scientifically explained. With hints (unproven one way or another) that the newer strain transmits more among the younger population, is it wise to presume leaving schools open is grand at the absolute worst time for numbers and spread or would it be wiser (with an actual vaccine available) to be more cautious at the peak?

    I don’t see schools opening on 11th January, I don’t really understand why some in government are doubling down on it , there’s no need for it as it gives people an opportunity to undermine them for mismanaging expectations. This is a crisis management situation that changes quickly, it’s stupidly naieve (and irresponsible) to set expectations on something like schools when you can’t make that promise. I still think some see this like a banking crisis where we can manipulate numbers to bend absolutely to our will, we can’t, we can influence them but we are not completely in control of what’s going on, moreso now then at any stage of this pandemic.

    There is an end in sight, people can have hope with the vaccine that summer can bring potentially the end of these severe lockdowns. But I think January and February at least are generally right offs. Look how long it takes numbers to go down, you are looking at months before we get below 100 again. Jan-March is prob the worst time for spread (look at last year) so why would we expect it to level off? We don’t know what state our hospitals and healthcare system will be by March.

    I suppose, I’m hoping the right decisions are made for the right reasons at the right time. But I don’t see reasonable expectations being offered from authority’s. Government still seem to be clinging to a pipe dream that we can wing it for a few hairy weeks. I’d love to see the evidence that suggests schools opening and people returning to non essential office settings (advisory not to return but not compelling employers) is sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    How would you know , to be fair?
    How long you registered , since end October?
    You have some cheek saying that about a 30 piece thread you have not even read , by the looks of some of your posts !
    Just re hash of other posts on " less thoughtful " threads .
    Maybe people are just irritated having to explain the basics over and over , and that is why you think they are " highly strung".

    there are still people in the restrictions thread that don't know how the virus spreads. i get into arguments with them and it usually ends up with me having to explain how the virus is transmitted, which they then ignore of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    Have seen some people on here talk about a level 6. What would that entail? Don’t really know how it can get much more restrictive than it was last March


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    How would you know , to be fair?
    How long you registered , since end October?
    You have some cheek saying that about a 30 piece thread you have not even read , by the looks of some of your posts !
    Just re hash of other posts on " less thoughtful " threads .
    Maybe people are just irritated having to explain the basics over and over , and that is why you think they are " highly strung".

    Hmmm. I have been on Boards for many years. I close and re-reg quite often because I want to keep my identity private.

    My assertion still stands. Not sure why you are so annoyed by it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Have seen some people on here talk about a level 6. What would that entail? Don’t really know how it can get much more restrictive than it was last March

    Double secret probation

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    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    He is talking about Jan 3rd 2020. 1 year ago. I asked him for the data for ICU comparison.

    Ah I see that makes sense if accurate. Knew it wasn't last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    froog wrote: »
    there are still people in the restrictions thread that don't know how the virus spreads. i get into arguments with them and it usually ends up with me having to explain how the virus is transmitted, which they then ignore of course.

    Oh I have peaked in there from time to time, there’s no educating that bunch, leave them to it. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Have seen some people on here talk about a level 6. What would that entail? Don’t really know how it can get much more restrictive than it was last March

    Schools could close.

    So could many more businesses (unfortunately many could be closed for good).

    It could be enforced.

    Lots of things could be done to make it more restrictive than it is right now.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    froog wrote: »
    there are still people in the restrictions thread that don't know how the virus spreads. i get into arguments with them and it usually ends up with me having to explain how the virus is transmitted, which they then ignore of course.

    Fair play to you for venturing in there. I wouldn't have the patience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Of course there are. It's a pandemic and nobody here knows what other people are going through. I'm sure there are plenty here who are having a shiity time and maybe have even lost a loved one. I have.

    Very sorry to hear about you loss, prayers to you and your family.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Have seen some people on here talk about a level 6. What would that entail? Don’t really know how it can get much more restrictive than it was last March

    Essentially like last March

    Theres a lot more open now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭9db3xj7z41fs5u


    There was nothing sarcastic about it. Spare me the rest of your virtue signalling.

    Simply stating that losing a loved one to Covid is virtue-signalling? Wow. I better revise my definition. People are going through a tough time. I am really struggling a the moment. Being nasty achieves nothing. Also, virtue signalling is the catch-all term now to dismiss a comment that you don't agree with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭tails_naf


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Eamon Ryan on about reducing 5km to 2km, more restrictions etc.,

    The restrictions should have some common sense for urban vs rural, but more importantly should be enforced. If the rules make no sense, people are less likely to follow them, similarly if they are not enforced, people by and large won't follow them. Reducing 5km to 2km in rural areas makes no sense, as I can easily go 5km from my door at anytime and not meet a single person. Similarly closing parks / forests, etc is silly, as if people are well apart, it won't spread. Wide open areas are the best way for people to ease mental health tensions, while also being low risk for spread. Finally, it's a bit late now, but if levels were people enforced and granular then counties on level 3+ would see the shops etc open in counties in level 2 and up their game, it would create a social stigma for violators. What er have now is everyone, including thr towns/villages/counties that are taking it seriously are all lumped into level 5 because some other place was lax. The world runs on incentive, so give people incentives to be more careful... You'd think people's own health would be incentive enough, but as it's clearly not we need to be more strategic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    froog wrote: »

    The hospital situation was fairly grim this time last year also without covid.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/first-week-of-2020-worst-ever-for-hospital-overcrowding-1.4135852?mode=amp


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    froog wrote: »

    Fcuk sake, the scenario we all wanted avoided.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Of course there are. It's a pandemic and nobody here knows what other people are going through. I'm sure there are plenty here who are having a shiity time and maybe have even lost a loved one. I have.

    Sorry for your loss.


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    Stheno wrote: »
    Essentially like last March

    Theres a lot more open now

    There is. Last March really was a completely different kettle of fish to the lockdown we are in now. The roads were empty. Part of my work is in an area where they stopped almost all services and there was real concern around the survival of the organisation. Also there were no coffee shops open. I love love a nice coffee from Butlers and it was one of the biggest things I missed.
    Another difference was service stations had all their food counters closed. Any semblance of our usual life was completely suspended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Of course there are. It's a pandemic and nobody here knows what other people are going through. I'm sure there are plenty here who are having a shiity time and maybe have even lost a loved one. I have.

    I said "there are some exceedingly highly strung people on this thread". Simple as that. I never once equated being highly strung with grief or loss. There are many reasons why people are highly strung.

    Actually no, you're right. There are no highly strung people on this thread. My bad. I got it completely and utterly wrong. Carry on. QED.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I find that hard to believe. There is no flu in circulation at present.

    Not that hard to believe. Was little or none in the southern hemisphere and mask wearing, social distancing has done the job to eliminate the flu season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭flanna01


    With the figures up in a heap, and an increasing backlog, do we really have an accurate grasp of where we really are in terms of the spread of the virus..??

    I guess we can expect high numbers, up to and around the 15th to the 20th of January.... This will take care of most of the Christmas & New Year craic should it not...??

    Then, we should see a steady decline in the numbers, assuming that most punters are skint and somewhat abiding to the L5 restrictions.

    So.... The upcoming surge of new cases will mainly be attributed to damage already done (Xmas shopping / Xmas gatherings etc). Why do we need to pull the trigger on schools, work, non essential retail & 5k limits so soon....??

    I get the need to protect the HSE - But that churn of milk has already been spilt, we can't prevent the results of that scenario impacting the hospital admissions.

    But from January 1st, most of the messing & hugging will have been done. Most will settle down again to combat the spread of the disease.

    Is there really any further need to debate further restrictions until we see how things are going after the 20th January? The restrictions already imposed will hardly bear fruit before then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    The hospital situation was fairly grim this time last year also without covid.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/first-week-of-2020-worst-ever-for-hospital-overcrowding-1.4135852?mode=amp

    oh yeah? it's about to get a lot worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,883 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Hmmm. I have been on Boards for many years. I close and re-reg quite often because I want to keep my identity private.

    My assertion still stands. Not sure why you are so annoyed by it.

    Not annoyed at all .
    Why are you calling people names here ?
    Was that what your former persona did before you got banned/ rereg ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭ureds


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Have seen some people on here talk about a level 6. What would that entail? Don’t really know how it can get much more restrictive than it was last March
    Looks the only way to get these high numbers down is close the country like March/April last year.
    It worked then and it would work again.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    There is. Last March really was a completely different kettle of fish to the lockdown we are in now. The roads were empty. Part of my work is in an area where they stopped almost all services and there was real concern around the survival of the organisation. Also there were no coffee shops open. I love love a nice coffee from Butlers and it was one of the biggest things I missed.
    Another difference was service stations had all their food counters closed. Any semblance of our usual life was completely suspended.

    Yeah :) I remember going for a Costa coffee when things opened up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I said many people on this thread were highly strung. I never once equated being highly strung with grief or loss. There are many reasons why people are highly strung.

    Actually no, you're right. There are no highly strung people on this thread. My bad. I got it completely wrong.

    I think you may be highly strung now :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    I said many people on this thread were highly strung. I never once equated being highly strung with grief or loss. There are many reasons why people are highly strung.

    Actually no, you're right. There are no highly strung people on this thread. My bad. I got it completely wrong.

    Ironically, that post comes across as very highly strung.

    Let's move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    froog wrote: »
    yup, due to the amount of selfish morons in the country level 5 is the only thing that works unfortunately. a fully compliant level 3 would be perfectly capable of handling this thing.

    Agree, but I have come to realise that some people are simply dumb as a bag of rocks (also there are the obviously selfish folk too) but some are just plain thick.

    This whole thing has certainly opened my eyes to some pure dopes who haven't a clue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Ironically, that post comes across as very highly strung.

    Let's move on.

    I wish :)

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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