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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6632
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    prunudo wrote: »
    All reducing the 5km to 2km will do is confine more people into smaller areas. At least a jogger or cyclist can at present stay away from built up areas to get longer distances in. 2km seriously curtails this and ends up getting peoples backs up as the footpaths end up being congested.

    Even the idea closing beaches and other outdoors areas makes no sense. I often wonder do those making decisions ever look beyond covid and overlook the health benefits of excercising in the freah air, and I'm not talking about a 25min stroll around the block.

    Those type of measures are useless and only taken so they look like they are being proactive.


  • #6633
    Treseemme.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 124 ✭✭Treseemme.


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    This is being replicated elsewhere. Beaumont under pressure from staff shortages as well

    Was always the danger


  • #6634
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    The UK publish date-of-swab data, so when you hear 60k per day its usually a chunk from day before plus a bunch of other days... Turns out Dec 29th had almost 80,000 cases

    https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1345760313753432064?s=20


  • #6635
    Queried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Queried


    Is it common for elderly people to be asymptomatic?


  • #6636
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I hope we don't get to a stage where sick people can't be treated and saved :(


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  • #6637
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Queried wrote: »
    Is it common for elderly people to be asymptomatic?

    Not sure how common, but I know two. One in 80s with a pretty serious underlying illness too. Both fine from Covid thankfully.


  • #6638
    Queried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Queried


    6 wrote: »
    Not sure how common, but I know two. One in 80s with a pretty serious underlying illness too.

    Thanks for that. Grandparent in 80s tested positive and trying to be optimistic.


  • #6639
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Queried wrote: »
    Is it common for elderly people to be asymptomatic?

    Not sure how common, but my grandmother was 95 when she caught it and had a very mild temp for a few days but little else. Only for she mentioned it to the nurse in her nursing home she felt warmer, she wouldn't have been tested, this was back in March/April.

    I say she was 95, cos she's 96 now :)


  • #6640
    brookers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭brookers


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    On that basis, why are betting shops open? That said, I suspect that there are a significant number of people who would not be set up for on line lottery, so closing the terminals down will impact the sales.

    It's much wider and deeper that just the lottery and gambling, and I don't think the latest lockdown will achieve the result that's needed, for a number of reasons.

    Brutal reality is that NPHET ( and RTE) have lost the ear of the public, I for one have heard "the next 2 weeks" a good few times too often, and phrases like "critical" " concerned" and "worried" have all lost their impact through overuse, and now the numbers are going through the roof, there's no words left for them to use to convey the gravity of what's happening.

    The total absence of any accountability is also a factor, across a number of areas of state services, I just hope people will remember these issues when the politicians are hammering on their doors next time round, and the lack of any sorts of alternatives is even more worrying, there seems to be no real plan other than lockdown.

    The 5Km limit is being ignored locally by people wanting to go for their walk in "a nice place where the kids can run free" rather than pounding the pavements around the town, with the result that a local spot, Balrath Woods has been closed to prevent further damage to the environment, pathways are being damaged, wildlife is under threat, and parking in the area is causing problems, there is very little local population around the area that can legally use the site, but that seemed to not matter to many people, so the controlling people have had to make the decision to close it completely for at least the duration of this lockdown, if not longer.

    I don't know how "no visitors" plan is working, we're at the end of the estate, and see no passing traffic or pedestrians, but if the issues that were evident previously have not changed, then there are still parties happening, the absence of any sort of enforcement is not helping.

    I wish I could feel confident that the HSE are going to receive the numbers of vaccine doses they need to meet the targets they have set, and I can only hope that they have the ability to deliver on their targets, their track record over the last 12 months in a number of critical areas does not inspire me in the slightest.

    I also wish I could share in the optimsim of the politicians, but unfortunately, I see their flag waving as being very premature, and it does not have the ring of confidence behind it that is essential for things to change, there are too many issues that they are unwilling or unable to answer when pressed.

    Im heading into work tomorrow to see up to 30 people, thats just me, my colleagues will see even more. lots of congregating, coffees, a few bets....Im just praying people will feel frightened and wont come.....OUr mgt the same as Norma Foley, business as usual. we are opened full stop. this lockdown wont suppress the virus, numbers will go down but 500 or 700 will be considered a good day.


  • #6641
    Queried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Queried


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Not sure how common, but my grandmother was 95 when she caught it and had a very mild temp for a few days but little else. Only for she mentioned it to the nurse in her nursing home she felt warmer, she wouldn't have been tested, this was back in March/April.

    I say she was 95, cos she's 96 now :)

    Wow, that's amazing. Thank you for sharing, reading this has really helped me!


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  • #6642
    ruth123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 ✭ruth123456


    Don’t worry, my friends granny is 99, living in care home, tested positive and just had a cough


  • #6643
    Pcgamer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Pcgamer


    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.


  • #6644
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    maebee wrote: »
    I switched off from Covid news on Jan 1st so I'm not up to date on the testing procedures. My son and his girlfriend have just tested positive. Neither hubby or I have symptoms but we would like to get tested asap, as we both have underlying issues. Our doctor's surgery will be open tomorrow morning. Is there any other way that I could organise a test today?. TIA.

    I would wait and contact your GP tomorrow morning.
    With underlying conditions he will be aware of what criteria is important for you and your husband .
    Make sure you tell him everything you are both feeling , don't underplay any other symptoms, not just the routine list on the HSE website.
    Some people present with headache and muscle pain and nothing else for day or two , for example .
    Hope your son and girlfriend are ok,and that you and your husband are too .


  • #6645
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Queried wrote: »
    Thanks for that. Grandparent in 80s tested positive and trying to be optimistic.

    Good way to think.
    Best of luck with everything.


  • #6646
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.

    And that makes it okay that we’re quickly running out of beds for people who need to do to hospital?


  • #6647
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.

    I'm not sure which hospital you're working in, but that doesn't gel with what I'm told by two people working with Covid patients in two different hospitals.

    It sounds like you're more on edge about this than most. Maybe calm yourself down first.


  • #6648
    sibersha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭sibersha


    Queried wrote: »
    Wow, that's amazing. Thank you for sharing, reading this has really helped me!

    My own granny tested positive 19 days ago and did not have any symptoms and is out of isolation now.


  • #6649
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    wadacrack wrote: »
    I know of people who have contracted the virus and it has not lead to more cases in their household. Follow the advice by medical professionals rather than a personal belief

    The advice received from medical professionals regarding the level of isolation required is not possible in my circumstance.


  • #6650
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    maebee wrote: »
    I switched off from Covid news on Jan 1st so I'm not up to date on the testing procedures. My son and his girlfriend have just tested positive. Neither hubby or I have symptoms but we would like to get tested asap, as we both have underlying issues. Our doctor's surgery will be open tomorrow morning. Is there any other way that I could organise a test today?. TIA.




    I heard someone (an official and not a commentator) on the radio the other day and they were explaining that people who were close contacts were now not going to be automatically tested due to capacity. And they asked people not to feign symptoms in order to get a test due to capacity issues.



    The person said that there had been people ringing up and asking for a test after being a close contact of someone who tested positive, and it being explained to them that the new rules were that they were to self-isolate without a test unless they developed symptoms. The person went on to say that they had had worried people ringing back after 5 minutes who now had suddenly developed a sniffle or a cough etc. in order to get a test. The person was just asking for people not to do that unless they had genuine symptoms.



    In any case, if I was a close contact and I didn't have any symptoms, I'd prefer to isolate and hope that I didn't have it rather than travel to a testing centre where 10% or whatever of people who have passed through there that day had it!


  • #6651
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.

    You do know that if those people fill up the hospitals, that leaves no room for everyone else with every other ailment, right?


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  • #6652
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ruth123456 wrote: »
    Don’t worry, my friends granny is 99, living in care home, tested positive and just had a cough

    This is such a weird virus. How is it affecting people differently?


  • #6653
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.

    I’m 24 years old and I have type 1 diabetes - the autoimmune, insulin dependent kind. I have an underlying illness which statistically has been seen to have an increased death rate when seriously ill with COVID-19, likely due to illness causing difficult to control blood sugar levels which in turns hampers the ability of the immune system to fight the virus.

    I believe around 1 in 3 Irish people have some underlying illness. The way you say that makes it seem like people who have an underlying illness can be just disregarded? A lot of people have one and need to be protected. I’m terrified of getting this virus as someone who gets very frequently ill from colds and flus.


  • #6654
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Not sure how common, but my grandmother was 95 when she caught it and had a very mild temp for a few days but little else. Only for she mentioned it to the nurse in her nursing home she felt warmer, she wouldn't have been tested, this was back in March/April.

    I say she was 95, cos she's 96 now :)
    my mother is 88 in a home and tested positive in december. no symptoms

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #6655
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    rm212 wrote: »
    I’m 24 years old and I have type 1 diabetes - the autoimmune, insulin dependent kind. I have an underlying illness which statistically has been seen to have an increased death rate when seriously ill with COVID-19, likely due to illness causing difficult to control blood sugar levels which in turns hampers the ability of the immune system to fight the virus.

    I believe around 1 in 3 Irish people have some underlying illness. The way you say that makes it seem like people who have an underlying illness can be just disregarded? A lot of people have one and need to be protected. I’m terrified of getting this virus as someone who gets very frequently ill from colds and flus.

    Exactly, 'underlying illness' covers a multitude of conditions that people are living with everyday, without any affect on their daily lives and without anyone else noticing... until covid hits.

    In some cases, the only underlying condition has been carrying extra weight.


  • #6656
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    rm212 wrote: »
    I’m 24 years old and I have type 1 diabetes - the autoimmune, insulin dependent kind. I have an underlying illness which statistically has been seen to have an increased death rate when seriously ill with COVID-19, likely due to illness causing difficult to control blood sugar levels which in turns hampers the ability of the immune system to fight the virus.

    I believe around 1 in 3 Irish people have some underlying illness. The way you say that makes it seem like people who have an underlying illness can be just disregarded? A lot of people have one and need to be protected. I’m terrified of getting this virus as someone who gets very frequently ill from colds and flus.

    I think a lot of the underlying illness brigade are using it to make themselves feel better- I think when they think of an underlying illness they automatically assume a terminal condition. I guess it helps them to make sense of the virus and convince themselves they will be fine.


  • #6657
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.

    Does saying something like that make you feel better?


  • #6658
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    The hospital cases are generally down to people with an underlying illness. Calm the **** down people.

    If we exclude people with underlying conditions, Harold Shipman didn’t kill anyone.


  • #6659
    Pcgamer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Pcgamer


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Does saying something like that make you feel better?

    No but your all in panic mode, its not healthy.


  • #6660
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Queried wrote: »
    Wow, that's amazing. Thank you for sharing, reading this has really helped me!

    Happy to hear, will be thinking of them. It’s very hard to comprehend with such an overload of information in the media and online, etc, but even for those in their 80s and 90s, the odds are on their side. Good to hear they’re asymptomatic so far, hopefully a good sign.


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  • #6661
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    If 1 in 3 have underlying conditions and we probably have had 200k cases here at least, should we not have far higher death rate and numbers of people getting sick statistically or what is the reason for it.


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