Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

1…217218220222223…330

Comments

  • #6572
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    5km exercise limit could be reduced to 2km, says Eamon Ryan
    The Green Party leader said if cases still aren’t lowering in a week or two this measure could be implemented

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/5km-exercise-limit-could-be-reduced-to-2km-says-eamon-ryan-39926460.html

    Jeez what a solution lol

    Good luck to him trying to get public buy in for that

    Did you not realise that exercising 3km from your home raise R0 by 0.3?


  • #6573
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    5km exercise limit could be reduced to 2km, says Eamon Ryan
    The Green Party leader said if cases still aren’t lowering in a week or two this measure could be implemented

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/5km-exercise-limit-could-be-reduced-to-2km-says-eamon-ryan-39926460.html

    Jeez what a solution lol

    Good luck to him trying to get public buy in for that

    So some lad out walking or jogging 5k from his home instead of the 2k is the real danger here and not pilling 30 kids into a classroom for 6 hours a day! Go figure!!


  • #6574
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    stargazer 68 wrote: »
    Well they shouldn't continue on. The son is positive so self isolate as instructed. A test is not going to change that.

    Absolutely. The advice right now is assume you have it and isolate.


  • #6575
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    noserider wrote: »
    Who are they if you don’t mind me asking? Not being smart

    DAA, Retail excellence, IBEC, Hospitality federation etc... Basically anyone with an interest in getting the restrictions removed so they can open up/stay open.

    Politicians often shill for these organisations and we seen plenty of that in November. Most of these politicians will be uncontactable now and won't resurface for a couple of weeks.


  • #6576
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    testtech05 wrote: »
    My sister and both parents at home have had symptoms for the last few days rang the out of hours drs service who told them they won't be tested because they have not been in contact with a confirmed case...... Wtf is that about?

    They told them to just isolate at home instead. I think they are to ring their own go tomorrow and hopefully get tested.

    I think I am beginning to see a plan about how we will get the numbers down! Genius.


  • Advertisement
  • #6577
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    GreeBo wrote: »
    They have paid massively over the odds per dose.
    $62 Vs €15.50

    The average taxpayer would make that back for the government in a couple of days. Being cheap will cost us long term. Our priority should have been Ireland first.


  • #6578
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    JP100 wrote: »
    So some lad out walking or jogging 5k from his home instead of the 2k is the real danger here and not pilling 30 kids into a classroom for 6 hours a day! Go figure!!

    All those joggers and it's the New Year, they're out everywhere.

    Eamon Ryan saying there's always more to be done to suppress the virus... Eh, at what point will they look at schools?


  • #6579
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    I’m pretty sure they have tougher restrictions that they are considering, level 6 I like to call it. Every EU country has pretty much followed the same template so I’d say there’s more to come, they just haven’t announced it yet. As for the vaccine better off we didn’t order too much, this thing is going to rip through the population now, it’ll kill a portion of the sick and vulnerable and confer that herd immunity on those who survive it. Unfortunately I think the vaccines are now too late, the virus has its own trajectory, it’s a pity really, and just shows how nature can overcome even our best efforts.


  • #6580
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    The average taxpayer would make that back for the government in a couple of days. Being cheap will cost us long term. Our priority should have been Ireland first.

    So we bet on Pfizer and lose? You would attack the Government for getting it wrong and not go with the EU scheme.


  • #6581
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,358 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    growleaves wrote: »
    ICUs are overloaded every year, and not just in this country:

    I know....https://www.inmo.ie/Home/Index/217/13549

    But I would like to know how ICU numbers today compare with Jan 3rd 2020.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Advertisement
  • #6582
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    All those joggers and it's the New Year, they're out everywhere.

    Eamon Ryan saying there's always more to be done to suppress the virus... Eh, at what point will they look at schools?

    Since there's no back up plan related to schools, they don't want to be looking at them at all. They dug the hole for themselves when it comes to the schools.


  • #6583
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Absolutely. The advice right now is assume you have it and isolate.

    The problem is without testing of the close contacts... What about the close contacts of the close contacts?


  • #6584
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    screamer wrote: »
    I’m pretty sure they have tougher restrictions that they are considering, level 6 I like to call it. Every EU country has pretty much followed the same template so I’d say there’s more to come, they just haven’t announced it yet. As for the vaccine better off we didn’t order too much, this thing is going to rip through the population now, it’ll kill a portion of the sick and vulnerable and confer that herd immunity on those who survive it. Unfortunately I think the vaccines are now too late, the virus has its own trajectory, it’s a pity really, and just shows how nature can overcome even our best efforts.

    What do they have left to do?

    5km to 2km
    Schools closed?
    Constructions closed?

    Not much else they can do at this stage


  • #6585
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,358 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It's amazing how the supply and demand issues around the various vaccines are making people even much more eager to get the vaccine.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #6586
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    What do they have left to do?

    5km to 2km
    Schools closed?
    Constructions closed?

    Not much else they can do at this stage

    No click and collect


  • #6587
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    JP100 wrote: »
    So some lad out walking or jogging 5k from his home instead of the 2k is the real danger here and not pilling 30 kids into a classroom for 6 hours a day! Go figure!!

    And the airports and ferries still letting tom, dick and harry in to the country unchecked. It's a ****ing disgrace.

    Living with covid was never possible without a realistic regulation of travel. If we had done that properly we might have got away with opening the pubs and visits.

    What a **** up.


  • #6588
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    Read my post again. I'm not saying the rules should not be implemented. I am saying I am sick of the inconsistency where there are hard measures put in place while other risks are ignored.

    Its the equivalent of closing the windows to keep the cold out but leaving the back door open
    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    5km exercise limit could be reduced to 2km, says Eamon Ryan
    The Green Party leader said if cases still aren’t lowering in a week or two this measure could be implemented

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/5km-exercise-limit-could-be-reduced-to-2km-says-eamon-ryan-39926460.html

    Jeez what a solution lol

    Good luck to him trying to get public buy in for that

    I really don’t see how reducing outdoor exercise limit from 5k to 2k is going to make a blind bit of difference in all this:confused:


  • #6589
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    So we bet on Pfizer and lose? You would attack the Government for getting it wrong and not go with the EU scheme.

    There are other vaccines not just Pfizer. Also this nonsense of the government paying ffs I'd pay multiples of 62 euro to get it and I'm sure most of our population would.


  • #6590
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The problem is without testing of the close contacts... What about the close contacts of the close contacts?

    Presumably people can tell people.


  • #6591
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    I really don’t see how reducing outdoor rxercise limit from 5k to 2k is going to make a blind bi5 of difference in all this:confused:

    It won't make any difference, it's about looking like they are doing something without making the hard decisions.


  • Advertisement
  • #6592
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    What do they have left to do?

    5km to 2km
    Schools closed?
    Constructions closed?

    Not much else they can do at this stage

    They should probably close schools and construction for 2 weeks but biggest thing is to ensure that business actually follows the guidelines..

    That means bosses instructing everyone to work from home unless absolutely essential..

    That’s in my view the biggest issue


  • #6593
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    There are other vaccines not just Pfizer. Also this nonsense of the government paying ffs I'd pay multiples of 62 euro to get it and I'm sure most of our population would.

    So we take a gamble on all the vaccines?


  • #6594
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    To the best of my knowledge swabs have never been reported on a Sunday. I presume this will continue? It would be nice (or maybe it wouldn't!) to know the positivity rate in particular.


  • #6595
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    So we take a gamble on all the vaccines?

    Don't put all our apples in one basket yes. Listen its not worth our while talking about it tbh as they've made their decision anyway. I just hope it works


  • #6596
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    That info will come out tomorrow anyway


  • #6597
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Arduach wrote: »
    To the best of my knowledge swabs have never been reported on a Sunday. I presume this will continue? It would be nice (or maybe it wouldn't!) to know the positivity rate in particular.

    Until yesterday I don't think they had been reported on a Saturday?


  • #6598
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Arduach wrote: »
    To the best of my knowledge swabs have never been reported on a Sunday. I presume this will continue? It would be nice (or maybe it wouldn't!) to know the positivity rate in particular.

    Swabs had never been reported on a bank holiday before Friday so I'm hoping that the swabs are released today.


  • #6599
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    What do they have left to do?

    5km to 2km
    Schools closed?
    Constructions closed?

    Not much else they can do at this stage

    I've heard of people mentioning curfews, but it's one I don't understand at all tbh. There's zero enforcement on gatherings at the moment, so curfews will just curtail exercise, unless there's other benefits I can't think of.

    There is of course airport/ferryport restrictions, but we all know that's very unlikely at this stage. The border excuse is a red herring imo, even by keeping it open whilst reducing travel thru other ports will make a difference. It's a bit like saying we shouldn't social distance because the border is still open, the sum of every small change will add up. Schools going back monday week instead of wednesday will certainly break some chains


  • #6600
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    So we take a gamble on all the vaccines?

    Which is exactly what the EU scheme was about.

    Block book and pre pay for x amount.

    Some people just love moaning for the sake of it


  • Advertisement
  • #6601
    AutoTuning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭AutoTuning


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    How did they get that many vaccines in the first place and us stuck with are EU handout.

    There’s no “EU handout” we are doing a coordinated purchase. We buy the vaccines at the price that was negotiated as a bloc of EU. The EU is avoiding facing 27 countries outbidding each other, which would have left a mess in Europe. There was also a risk of countries monopolising supplies.

    They’ve spread their bets across multiple vaccines and they’ve also put huge money into many of those companies up front that’s driven some of the innovation.

    Also Ireland is a net contributor to there EU at the moment - handouts aren’t acting to do with it.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement