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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6272
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    What a load of garbage

    Its not though. Most of the spread is driven by a minority of super spreading people or events

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/science/how-coronavirus-spreads.html


  • #6273
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    majcos wrote: »
    I don’t have the breakdown of ages of those who died in the last six months but I hope you’re right that’s it’s relatively low and hopefully that will continue to be the case but it will only be so provided there are enough hospital and ICU beds and staff have enough time to deliver the same level of care as they have been doing in the last six months.

    Spookwomans link from earlier on deaths and ages
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b_YDBn8A-n07ZAP68MadM67Z6aVu7gZmd7aG3dhxoko/htmlview


  • #6274
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,586 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    shoppergal wrote: »
    My 3 year old son was confirmed with covid on 28th December (had symptoms 26th and 27th, tested on 27th). My parents were here Xmas day for 3 hours. My dad tested positive on 30th, no symptoms so far. I had a test yesterday, got negative result earlier today.
    Any theories on how I was negative? My son was literally on me for the 2 days he was sick, I slept in with him, he was all but coughing into my mouth, I didn't make any attempt to distance from him. My dad was here for a few hours, the back door was open the entire time and I don't think he and DS physically touched off each other the entire time. I'm baffled!


    You had it earlier, never new it, so negative now.


  • #6275
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Funny that the armchair epidemiologists here tried to discredit Philip Nolan’s modelling as well. He’s been bang on the money.

    He said only last week we could have 2000 cases a day the first week.of January?


  • #6276
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,586 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    If you were watching on Youtube , or Netflix, or Amazon, or almost any other IP service provider, then it wasn't any accident that the adverts and the like were full of the same things later on, that's the power and danger of clicking "yes" to all cookies without disabling some of the advertising options, companies like Facebook (very much so) and Google are harvesting information about where you go and what you look at while there, and use that to tailor the advertising you see later, as that earns them more.

    It's now very true that if you're not paying for the service, then you ARE the service, and the advertising is very much built around that.


    I hate that, I go on to youtube and see the same stuff over and over and over, to me it's like youtube has only 50 videos. So annoying.


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  • #6277
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,586 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Stheno wrote: »
    He said only last week we could have 2000 cases a day the first week.of January?


    I said that in here when we reopened on Dec 2nd was it .

    '' we'll have 2000 cases at Christmas'' I got carded I think. Turns out with backlog the cases at Christmas was probably 3k plus .


  • #6278
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Yes and no. Once standard capacity beds are gone then you are into surge capacity. This will mean all but the most urgent operations and healthcare gets cancelled to free up beds.

    At this rate, surge capacity will probably buy us another 10 days before that's exhausted. Then you are into triage and a real dark place no civilized advanced society should ever be: choosing who gets health care.
    Right. Yes and no is a good answer. The surge capacity can create more beds but that can only be delivered for so long as it is asking extremes of human beings who will burn out and may get sick with Covid themselves. It is also depleting other services which will have consequences. And that surge capacity does have a limit too. Hospitals already triage who gets ICU care and that triage could become very very strict if availability of beds is under critical pressure. That’s when people who might have been saved start dying. Don’t want to get there.


  • #6279
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,586 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    AxleAddict wrote: »
    Do you have a smart TV - might be worth checking for ACR (Automatic Content Recognition)

    https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smart-tv-snooping-features/


    No smart TV, old school tv and Sky box


  • #6280
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    We all know what's driving this. It's gatherings in the home.
    Myself and my wife went out for a walk on Christmas day at about 8pm. The amount of houses we passed with 4-5 cars jammed in the drive was astonishing, given the public health advice.

    Shhhhh you aren't allowed mention that around here, apparently its pathetic and sad to notice these things according to the experts on Boards.


  • #6281
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Stheno wrote: »
    Yes and that doesn't include all of the positives

    There are 10000 unreported positive tests the past few days

    But that can only be an estimate. I guess though that there may be regional issues at play here. It may well be that some testing facilities remain quite quiet, whilst others are overrun. Hence it may be, for example, the Dublin figures are accurate, but the Donegal ones are under, or vice versa (and they are illustrative - I've no idea about the capacity and demand in any county)

    Equally there may have been limits on capacity in some centres over the holiday period

    That 10,000 estimate could therefore be spread across the country, or relate to some counties which have encountered a surge in demands for testing, or have arisen on specific days, or indeed be a combination of such factors


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  • #6282
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    They should just release the figures in two daily bulletins.


  • #6283
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    No smart TV, old school tv and Sky box
    Does your old school know you have their TV?


    :pac:


  • #6284
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    They should just release the figures in two daily bulletins.
    The higher the figures, the more checking required. Then there's more demand from journalists and others for information. Even now we know there is that backlog, making individual daily figures unreliable. Splitting it down into 2 unreliable figures does not benefit anyone


  • #6285
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I said that in here when we reopened on Dec 2nd was it .

    '' we'll have 2000 cases at Christmas'' I got carded I think. Turns out with backlog the cases at Christmas was probably 3k plus .

    Yes I think I remember them handing out cards for unfounded speculation of cases, how ironic that many of those 'wild' overestimations were actually underestimations.


  • #6286
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,061 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Larry King is hospitalised
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #6287
    Solar2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Solar2021


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    You had it earlier, never new it, so negative now.

    People keep saying this as fact but its rarely true, very unlikely

    How could she not have given it to her 3 year old that time, who got it now ?

    If you read up and watch interviews on Wuhan alot of citizens never got infected from family members at the beginning of the pandemic, not talking a few, as in a lot never got it

    It was impossible they had it before and never knew

    Pre existing immunity is pretty common


  • #6288
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Beasty wrote: »
    The higher the figures, the more checking required. Then there's more demand from journalists and others for information. Even now we know there is that backlog, making individual daily figures unreliable. Splitting it down into 2 unreliable figures does not benefit anyone

    I think they are planning on absorbing them into daily numbers over the next week once public health verify the data

    Hopefully if they do they will report it as they did with the German tests


  • #6289
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Hold on so the Majority don't even pass it on to their spouse who presumably they share a bed with?
    I don’t think sleeping arrangements were analysed. My grandparents slept in separate beds although they somehow still managed to have nine children.

    Maybe some are wise enough to move to spare room/couch when start feeling sick so that would help. Could have transmission before symptoms but even so that should mitigate spread somewhat.

    Lots we don’t know about this infectious disease transmission yet. Many infected with Covid have no idea where they got it from and yet people living in the same house can escape. That happens with other infectious illnesses too though. Several members of households can get gastroenteritis but some members don’t despite caring for those who are sick.


  • #6290
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,061 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Renjit wrote: »
    You may already had it in past.

    shoppergal could be a false result, get another test and antibody test if possible, all of ye take care
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #6291
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I said that in here when we reopened on Dec 2nd was it .

    '' we'll have 2000 cases at Christmas'' I got carded I think. Turns out with backlog the cases at Christmas was probably 3k plus .

    I think its in the first post of each thread no speculation on numbers of cases?


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  • #6292
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shhhhh you aren't allowed mention that around here, apparently its pathetic and sad to notice these things according to the experts on Boards.

    Bit of a difference between going for a walk and noticing things rather than putting your dinner table at the front window tbf :D


  • #6293
    Solar2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Solar2021


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    shoppergal antibody test if possible, all of ye take care

    Would put good money on that being negative too

    We've so much to learn about our immune system


  • #6294
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    majcos wrote: »
    I don’t think sleeping arrangements were analysed. My grandparents slept in separate beds although they somehow still managed to have nine children.

    Maybe some are wise enough to move to spare room/couch when start feeling sick so that would help. Could have transmission before symptoms but even so that should mitigate spread somewhat.

    Lots we don’t know about this infectious disease transmission yet. Many infected with Covid have no idea where they got it from and yet people living in the same house can escape. That happens with other infectious illnesses too though. Several members of households can get gastroenteritis but some members don’t despite caring for those who are sick.

    I remember saying that re the couch to someone in an ealier thread!


  • #6295
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,400 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    These threads will be great reading for historians researching the pandemic in 30-⁴0 years or so.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #6296
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    These threads will be great reading for historians researching the pandemic in 30-⁴0 years or so.

    Or sociology students right now


  • #6297
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭prunudo


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    These threads will be great reading for historians researching the pandemic in 30-⁴0 years or so.

    God help them!


  • #6298
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shhhhh you aren't allowed mention that around here, apparently its pathetic and sad to notice these things according to the experts on Boards.

    Slight difference in noticing three or four cars in every driveway while on a casual walk,and peeping out the window for hours watching the comings and goings in your neighbours house.


  • #6299
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    MOR316 wrote: »
    putting your dinner table at the front window tbf :D

    :D brilliant


  • #6300
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The schools aren't a babysitting service.

    But thats the reason people want them open!!!!


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  • #6301
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shhhhh you aren't allowed mention that around here, apparently its pathetic and sad to notice these things according to the experts on Boards.

    Many seem to forget that a lot of estates are open plan with no fences, wall etc out front and that many people these days have an inability to speak at a normal level and have to shout so 5 streets around can hear them. Also pretty hard to not hear the doors on the cars being banged about 50 times Don't need to actually look out the windows to know whats happening "I'll drop in next week Mary and have ya trim my hair" :D


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