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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #5912
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It won’t it will just piss off commuters and hauliers like it did last time.

    The irony. It's not illegal to go to work, and many are being told they have to go in. The Guards are trying to discourage something that's not illegal. So the worker who's worried about catching covid in the office after Christmas, is forced to sit in two hour traffic jams for the privelege.


  • #5913
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    The new strain is more prevalent there because of the airport.

    Only Dublin people use the airport and there are no airports in Cork, Belfast, Faranfore, Derry, Shannon or Knock?!


  • #5914
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Doubt it. The CIF have Micheál's ear.

    Doubt it, how many times over the last 9 months were we told how powerful the vintners lobby is,yet wet pubs remained closed apart from a few weeks the entire time.Influential sector lobby groups influence is a myth when it comes to a pandemic.


  • #5915
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It won’t it will just piss off commuters and hauliers like it did last time.

    And everyone else will just say they're going for bread or a lightbulb or something.


  • #5916
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Am I reading this correctly, once backlog is cleared it’s the end of swab numbers published? Or just will no longer be included in press release?

    https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1345442746841133058?s=21

    Well it's one way to sort the problem!


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  • #5917
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Meh.. I have a cataract operation scheduled for mid-January up North and assuming it still goes ahead, I'll be there.

    My eyesight is more important to me than worrying about something that I probably wouldn't even realise I had/have.
    Hopefully it will go ahead for you safely but it may not be your choice. Elective procedures and day services are already being cancelled in some acute hospitals. If it’s in an ophthalmology hospital or a private hospital as part of NTPF programme that might not be affected by Covid.


  • #5918
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Said this before but, I really cannot understand what people have been doing for the numbers to go this high

    I know I was on my own and not in anyone's company but, for the last month, I was in bars/pubs, I was out on my walks and I saw no one acting out of line or inappropriately. Retail shops, were as you'd expect but again, I saw everyone adhering to the regulations.

    In the Summer, when things opened up, cases went up but, it was very, very gradually, over a period of almost 4 months was it? I expected a rise in cases, NPHET expected a rise in cases, everyone expected a rise in cases but, no one expected these numbers.

    What the hell have people been doing? Seriously, have they been riding each other?

    During the summer the cases where lower and we could manage the virus so to speak, when we opened up in December, the virus wasn't in controlled, coupled with it being xmas and everyone just doing what they wanted.


  • #5919
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I'm not trolling but how does a curfew help? Pubs etc are shut so people aren't exactly going out on the town at night. Most of the mixing is going on during the day surely?

    That's the spanner in the works alright, full curfew, that's what the Chinese did. It can't work here, maybe in the big cities towns, not sure how that could even begin to work.


  • #5920
    Get Real
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Get Real


    VinLieger wrote: »
    I remember hearing just before christmas they were seeing something like an average of 30 close contacts for every positive test? What ****ing irresponsible ****ers were living their lives as if **** was fvcking normal?

    The South William Street crowd et Al. The crowd who moaned "we're only having a few cans, jesus" then hugging each other goodbye, and intermixing with groups because Alan from primary school said he's in town too. Then retweeting stay safe messages on the bus home.


  • #5921
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I expected a rise in cases, NPHET expected a rise in cases, everyone expected a rise in cases but, no one expected these numbers.
    Just because people are disappointed and worried about these numbers doesn't mean they were unexpected.


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  • #5922
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,253 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    majcos wrote: »
    Hopefully it will go ahead for you safely but it may not be your choice. Elective procedures and day services are already being cancelled in some acute hospitals. If it’s in an ophthalmology hospital or a private hospital as part of NTPF programme that might not be affected by Covid.

    Yep it's a private hospital so should be alright hopefully.

    Will call them Monday anyway and confirm


  • #5923
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    We're starting to get a lot of international attention because of our numbers. Embarrassing.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1345443567985168384?s=20


  • #5924
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Am I reading this correctly, once backlog is cleared it’s the end of swab numbers published? Or just will no longer be included in press release?

    https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1345442746841133058?s=21

    I imagine they mean they will stop including it as part of their report. They only started including it in the last few days when numbers went askew.

    Swab numbers will still be available as normal.


  • #5925
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Just because people are disappointed and worried about these numbers doesn't mean they were unexpected.

    So NPHET, the most pessimistic group of people in the country right now, didn't expect these numbers but, you and others on here did?

    OK...


  • #5926
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    People need to work from home. If it's possible do it, if your boss complains, forward the email to HSE rep or local TD

    Easier said than done for some people. There’s 3 of us here and simply not enough space for 3 people to work productively. Wifi struggles at times too


  • #5927
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    We're starting to get a lot of international attention because of our numbers. Embarrassing.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1345443567985168384?s=20

    Its like getting your name in the local paper for scoring an own goal in a Junior C match


  • #5928
    Lashes28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    majcos wrote: »
    Very few, if any, will be going for routine procedures with this number of Covid cases around!

    Anyone admitted in the last few months for a routine procedure was tested prior to admission. If positive Covid test, elective admission was cancelled. Person would stay at home to isolate. Only admitted if symptomatic enough from Covid to need hospitalisation for Covid and then would be counted at that point if it occurred as a Covid admission.


    No they weren't. My mam was in for a routine procedure and she wasnt tested before she went in. She went in on her own and I got a call from nurses to collect her. She was brought down in a wheelchair to front door I didn't get in at all. But definitely no test


  • #5929
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Said this before but, I really cannot understand what people have been doing for the numbers to go this high

    I know I was on my own and not in anyone's company but, for the last month, I was in bars/pubs, I was out on my walks and I saw no one acting out of line or inappropriately. Retail shops, were as you'd expect but again, I saw everyone adhering to the regulations.

    In the Summer, when things opened up, cases went up but, it was very, very gradually, over a period of almost 4 months was it? I expected a rise in cases, NPHET expected a rise in cases, everyone expected a rise in cases but, no one expected these numbers.

    What the hell have people been doing? Seriously, have they been riding each other?

    Think about it. Between January and March 2020 we went from none (almost none) to a very high amount of virus in the community in about 8 - 10 weeks. At first it was slow and then it was suddenly fast. Probably mid March to early April it was really fast - as evidenced by high death numbers later. There is a time in the beginning when growth is slow for a good while.

    But if there is enough seeding of virus, then growth has a good head start. When we opened in December we had a good enough residual seeding to allow for very fast growth where there is social interaction. Which is obvious now.

    And which also makes me wonder why on earth the health authorities are not responding adequately in the reality of such really widespread viral seeding now. Vested interests, I feel.
    Anyways they are the geniuses to whose expertise we must bow, I suppose. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  • #5930
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    We're starting to get a lot of international attention because of our numbers. Embarrassing.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1345443567985168384?s=20

    That was ****ing stupid, allowing flights in from London.


  • #5931
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    During the summer the cases where lower and we could manage the virus so to speak, when we opened up in December, the virus wasn't in controlled, coupled with it being xmas and everyone just doing what they wanted.

    Opening hospitality and restaurants was a massive mistake. Few on here said it but lots of posters on this forum were revelling in letting everyone know they were delighted with the restrictions. Many enjoyed posting about being out in the pub and how safe it felt. Our limited data when tracking sources of transmission may have given some people a false sense of safety in these settings


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  • #5932
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Just because people are disappointed and worried about these numbers doesn't mean they were unexpected.

    They are unexpected, NPHET have said they exceed their worst case scenarios.

    We all expected an increase, but not this. If anyone had said on December 1st that we would have 3 days in a row with over 4,000 positive swabs they would have been laughed out of it.


  • #5933
    gipi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭gipi


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Am I reading this correctly, once backlog is cleared it’s the end of swab numbers published? Or just will no longer be included in press release?

    https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1345442746841133058?s=21

    My reading of it is that the swab numbers won't be included in the press release, but will be reported elsewhere as normal.


  • #5934
    cityboyjim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭cityboyjim


    Like it or not Tony H seems to call it right most of the time .Surely now everything has to shut and I mean full lockdown for a month .Curfew needed after 8 pm .Half arsed lockdowns are breaking the country and not achieving the curve needed to get us through to the Vaccine .
    Then open up everything regionally .Including Bars .Police it properly this time .
    Show the numbers every day .Not just by County .Do it by parish .

    If we had something to look forward to we might toe the line this time because up to this we didnt .
    After the month where there are cases we stay locked down .Where it is clear we open all.
    Give people something to look forward to and to work towards .
    Push the Vaccine 24 /7 .Vaccinate by local area from mobile units .Like the mobile Library.3x8 hr shifts . Stability data of -80 drugs allow it to be out for up the four days and still perfect.


  • #5935
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    We're starting to get a lot of international attention because of our numbers. Embarrassing.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1345443567985168384?s=20

    How is it embarrassing. Look at numbers all over Europe. Are we even mid table?


  • #5936
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    Only Dublin people use the airport and there are no airports in Cork, Belfast, Faranfore, Derry, Shannon or Knock?!
    There are f'all routes out of any of the other airports. Given the population density in Dublin, you're much more likely to meet somebody who has been in contact with someone who has a connection to the UK. Any travel at all increases the risk of transmission.

    Whatever about that, what do people think about going to collect furniture? I only mentioned that the family has a connection to Dublin to convey why I'm worried about having them as contacts.


  • #5937
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    gipi wrote: »
    My reading of it is that the swab numbers won't be included in the press release, but will be reported elsewhere as normal.

    Yeah, the swab numbers come from the Covid hub. That's surely not going to disappear.


  • #5938
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Benimar wrote: »
    They are unexpected, NPHET have said they exceed their worst case scenarios.

    We all expected an increase, but not this. If anyone had said on December 1st that we would have 3 days in a row with over 4,000 positive swabs they would have been laughed out of it.

    Ya, I'd have been pessimistic but I'd have thought we'd be worst case hitting 1500s a day a month after opening back up, not what we have now.


  • #5939
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,598 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    The transmission in queues outside cafes, Chip Shops, Ice Cream shops, Euro Value Shops ect is huge, especially with new strain. All non essential, but all bending the rules. Not to mention Woodies, all DIY stores, furniture stores, Electrical Stores. all open for business, all non essential.


  • #5940
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Get Real wrote: »
    The South William Street crowd et Al. The crowd who moaned "we're only having a few cans, jesus" then hugging each other goodbye, and intermixing with groups because Alan from primary school said he's in town too. Then retweeting stay safe messages on the bus home.


    How is Alan btw? Did he get those drapes sorted in his kitchen?


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  • #5941
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,426 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    The vaccine is not far off.
    I would have a strong word!

    Believe me I’ve tried!!


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