Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

bazermc wrote: »

I wonder will they drip feed the 9000 back log or do it one go.

Numbers today will include some of those 9000

Nolan said

growleaves wrote: »

They must have whopper pensions if they can afford to stay retired and also pay for everything.

Ah, back to the "it's only pensioners" storyline I see?

Btw pensioners have more disposable income then pretty much everyone else, but carry on.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Can you post the quote, it’s very easy to give a different context to what someone said without actually quoteing them. It’s a tactic I see used here for point scoring.

Can't quote as it's from the last thread that's closed so here's a screenshot

Fast Twitch wrote: »

You'd go to A&E with a stomach bug! What other things do you go with out of curiosity?

Only in Ireland is a dose of the sh1ts a job for A&E.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So, what are the main downsides from not being able to produce the real case figures? If its 4k a day rather than 2k how does this help us?

Are hospitalisation figures not more important?

Someone mentioned that a doctor said cases are likely 10 times higher? If we are running at that level with an exponential virus does half the country not have it at this stage!

Well it's pretty pathetic if in the 21st year of the 21st century we cant count past 2000, the "Ah shure it will do" attitude that seem to prevalent in every level of state really isn't something we should be happy with,

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So we should get another update on numbers hospitalised and in ICU later on. I think these are the real numbers to be looking at now and it's not looking good, is it?

I do agree that these are important numbers and they look bad.

For decision makers they suck because the lag is too high.

I believe one of the nphet guys described it once as being 7-10 days between a lot of cases and their associated hospitalisation.

So for a decision making point of view (with tests on close contacts stopped) we are

Infection 5-14 days to symptoms
1-2 days to test
1-2 days to positive result
7-10 days to hospitalisation

So in a worst case scenario it's about a month from infection to hospitalisation.

That's too long for decision making so instead they look at cases (presumably swabs now) when making their decisions.

I feel so glum the last few days. Managed to have a lovely Christmas with my Wife and Mother as we didn't stir out since 20th Dec. Back to work from Monday where being in contact with people is unavoidable which means no visiting with parents or anyone for God knows how long.

I'm usually a very positive person but this is tough. I'm worried for my older relatives.

Rang yesterday and got two tests booked in for this morning. In and out in 5 mins, excellently run, hygienic environment and no hanging around or queuing.

They are doing a great job imo.

GreeBo wrote: »

Rang yesterday and got two tests booked in for this morning. In and out in 5 mins, excellently run, hygienic environment and no hanging around or queuing.

They are doing a great job imo.

Are you willing to give any more general details - where in the country and who are you referring to when you say 'they' are doing a great job? Public or private test?

niallo27 wrote: »

Our icu capacity should be brought in line with the EU average of 11 beds per 100k instead of being the worst in Europe. As for your bonus question, we have had issues with capacity for years in this country with 100s on trolleys every winter, are you saying extra capacity might be a waste of money.

Extra capacity to handle a once in s generation pandemic?

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Feel so sick looking at this.

Taking a broader perspective may help to allay the sickness ?

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

Total Tests Completed
2,401,599.
Total Positive Tests
107,293
Total Positive Rate (%)
4.5

The case fatality ratio,as in those positively tested who then die,was 2.2% on 28th Dec 2020.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries15/

NB: The CSO data lags behind the Headline rates.

The reality remains that for most healthy individuals returning a positive CV-19 test does not equal a death sentence.

I certainly do not want to catch it,but neither do I wish to see an entire species lose it's collective reason,and surrender many aspects of life that have been hard fought for.

As our former European partner might say,Keep Calm & Carry On

niallo27 wrote: »

Our icu capacity should be brought in line with the EU average of 11 beds per 100k instead of being the worst in Europe. As for your bonus question, we have had issues with capacity for years in this country with 100s on trolleys every winter, are you saying extra capacity might be a waste of money.

We do not have enough capacity - full stop.

That does not mean it is easy to ramp up capacity - issues are systemic including recruitment, planning process, pay, vested interests, lack of funding, poor use of existing funding etc etc. One thing we need is to have a serious national question after this of how we fund our health service and how we as taxpayers will pay for this. No more kicking the can down the road.

bazermc wrote: »

I wonder will they drip feed the 9000 back log or do it one go.

Not all of that 9000 is going to be a confirmed new case so it will take time

Especially with the outdated system they’re using