Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Drumpot wrote: »

They are completely winging it on schools in terms of promoting the story that schools “are safe”. I noticed Nolan strategically get a statement in after answering schools question. It was something on the lines of we can’t be sure how many children actually have it as many prob aren’t tested because they are asymptomatic.

I’ve yet to see credible scientific evidence or explanation proving beyond doubt that children are less likely to contract and pass on the virus. Only anecdotal insinuations or presumptions based on how many have tested positive in schools.

Regardless of whether the new strain affects children more, the deal with schools staying open was that the entire community worked to keep the general infection rate low, so that schools could remain open and active.

The community working together aspect is blown out of the water now and cases in the community are higher than previous worst predictions. This is not the same scenario that existed before Christmas and the government insisting that schools were always due to stay open in level 5 refers back to a previous prediction in a much different prevailing situation.

I had worked in schools before Christmas and was happy with the precautions taken in them and the general situation outside them. We are not in the same place now and an urgent review of the current situation needs to be undertaken, without blind adherence to previous plans and circumstances that clearly no longer apply.

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Reid said case numbers are likely now hitting 3,000 per day, but due to a legacy computer system used to log cases is unable to manage the volume of cases that labs are now processing.

It would be interesting to see their legacy computer system.. From the start of this shīt was clear test and tracing is important, fùcking important. With all the money being spent, why the hell this is still problem?

Solar2021 wrote: »

Curfews probably

8pm - 8am no one out, not even for a walk

I don't get what the obsession with curfews lately is. If you want to break the rules (to go to a party, for example) all you have to do is exit before the curfew time, then either sleep there or just ignore the curfew as going back to your place is surely going to be one valid reason to not have it apply to you.
Yes, if the Garda stops you drunk at 2am they might tell you something. But they can do that with no curfew, can they?

schmoo2k wrote: »

Took my son to get a test today and he was asked if he worked in a school or similar (which none of us were asked on previous days) - sounds like they are trying to get more data to make an informed decision?

Good to hear as lots of teachers who said they caught it in school were told they would be written in as community transmission

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Coveney says that restrictions may have to go "beyond level 5"

Apart from closing schools, what exactly could they be thinking here?

So wtf are they waiting for? Every day counts.

We need a proper Australian style lockdown to fix this. No schools, no bull**** essentials open. Everybody stays the **** in for 2 weeks minimum.

ShooterSF wrote: »

I do my groceries at 9 pm every Monday to avoid as many people as possible. When the gyms were open I went at 2am and when they're closed I'd like to leave my walk closer to that time too, again to avoid crowds. I don't see the sense in shrinking the window of time to do stuff surely that just increases contacts?

It only shrinks them if people persist in non essential journeys though.

ShooterSF wrote: »

I do my groceries at 9 pm every Monday to avoid as many people as possible. When the gyms were open I went at 2am and when they're closed I'd like to leave my walk closer to that time too, again to avoid crowds. I don't see the sense in shrinking the window of time to do stuff surely that just increases contacts?

Was it Greece where you booked a slot to do your grocery shopping? I'm not sure if it worked, but I imagine the idea was to prevent queues as well as too many people in the building at any one time.

Ger Roe wrote: »

Regardless of whether the new strain affects children more, the deal with schools staying open was that the entire community worked to keep the general infection rate low, so that schools could remain open and active..

Closing schools would do more harm than good, in particular the Primary schools... Same for years 1 - 3 in secondary schools.
Older students are more able to study from home and get lessons emailed or done over video conference...

khalessi wrote: »

Ohh I know, it is crazy

But we know schools are safe!!

xhomelezz wrote: »

What protests?

Any covid protest that was organised.
A curfew makes zero sense. Whats after a curfew? Literally locking us in our homes? Where the f**k does it end?
(I am someone who has complied with all the restrictions to date btw)

jackboy wrote: »

Just seen reports that there is a massive anti vaxxer movement in France which is putting the vaccine roll out at risk. A far far bigger number of anti vaxxers in France compared to the rest of Europe. What are the reasons for that?

I had wondered about this. Israel likewise despite all the talk of being the first to vaccinate it's population has a very significant population against vaccinations. Be interesting to see how it pans out but based on recent polls there are not enough Israelis prepared to be vaccinated in order for it to be effective.

The oddest thing about France though is that lockdowns were widely supported and complied with, polls showed vast majority support and as we saw with the police filming law if they're not happy with the way government are treating them the public have no problem making noise about it and COVID restrictions were not met with any resistance of note.
So most support lockdown but not vaccine. How does this make any sense, what is the end goal here in the mind's of most French people.