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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #3992
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Happy New Year one and all, here's hoping for a better 2021


  • #3993
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    RTE - Hospitals in Northern Ireland reach full capacity

    Do they have field hospitals on standby? Our hospitals are also going to fill up fast, so we don't really have ability to take patients on.

    ETA: Hopefully we will also have ability to fastly deploy field hospitals should we need them.


  • #3994
    Windmill100000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Dublin was absolutely eerie this evening, felt reminiscent of March last year.Not a sinner about. Was spooky to think it was NYE. Everyone certainly taking this Level 5 seriously by the looks of it.

    Or..... nothing is open and it's miserable out. Why would you expect to see anyone? What could they be doing out?


  • #3995
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Do they have field hospitals on standby? Our hospitals are also going to fill up fast, so we don't really have ability to take patients on.

    ETA: Hopefully we will also have ability to fastly deploy field hospitals should we need them.

    I’m pretty sure the DUP have been expecting the Republic to take their overflow cases.

    They need to soundbites of the republic’s refusal for political ammunition.


  • #3996
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,110 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    UK going with 12 week gap between vaccine doses. Some suggestion they have supply issues.?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55503739


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  • #3997
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://news.sky.com/story/world-begins-muted-2021-celebrations-as-2020-comes-to-an-end-12176170
    Well..makes it less depressing to know the whole world is in this together! NYE not looking normal anywhere on earth this year


  • #3998
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,246 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    UK going with 12 week gap between vaccine doses. Some suggestion they have supply issues.?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55503739

    No doubt we will copy them


  • #3999
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,402 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    I'll second that. Fair play to Shane Hastings.

    What's your excuse, igCorcaigh?

    Missed that trick.
    Should have been more active to be honest :(


  • #4000
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://news.sky.com/story/world-begins-muted-2021-celebrations-as-2020-comes-to-an-end-12176170
    Well..makes it less depressing to know the whole world is in this together! NYE not looking normal anywhere on earth this year

    Good read, France isn't messing around:

    'France has mobilised 100,000 police and gendarmes to break up New Year's Eve parties and enforce a curfew from 8pm to 6am.

    Half of the metro lines in Paris will also be closed in the evening to discourage gatherings.

    France has had two national lockdowns and bars, restaurants and cultural attractions will remain shut into January.

    The country has the largest number of COVID-19 cases in Western Europe.'


  • #4001
    Stheno
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    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    UK going with 12 week gap between vaccine doses. Some suggestion they have supply issues.?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55503739

    Think they were expecting ten times the amount of Oxford vaccine compared to what they got


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  • #4002
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Stheno wrote: »
    Think they were expecting ten times the amount of Oxford vaccine compared to what they got

    Oxford already said they arent sure of efficacy with 12 week gap


  • #4003
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    khalessi wrote: »
    Oxford already said they arent sure of efficacy with 12 week gap

    Pfizer said the same


  • #4004
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Stheno wrote: »
    In fairness where I work we have the odd 2003 server knocking about. Our IT estate is pretty big though

    All due to be nuked shortly

    One of my least favourite phrases - "technical debt"

    lots of big companies don't use the latest windows platforms for security and stability reasons.


  • #4005
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    khalessi wrote: »
    Oxford already said they arent sure of efficacy with 12 week gap


    As in between the two doses or having a 12 week gap in vaccinating people generally?


  • #4006
    Stheno
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    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    As in between the two doses or having a 12 week gap in vaccinating people generally?

    Between the Two doses


  • #4007
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    UK going with 12 week gap between vaccine doses. Some suggestion they have supply issues.?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55503739

    Doesn't appear to be supply issues, more so that they want as many people to get the first dose and have partial protection but for Pfizer they're going against what they recommend, Pfizer & BioNTech hasn't been tested at that interval on a widespread basis.

    Pfizer didn't sound happy in a press release.

    As for AstraZeneca there are suggestions that the duration of the second shot from the first might not be that important, more so just that you get it in a relatively small timeline, but MHRA said they've data that isn't publicly available yet.


  • #4008
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    So The HSE have said the system was an old one and not fit for purpose . So why the bloody hell did they not update it


    It wasn't that long ago that many state services were having to pay Microsoft a significant annual premium for continued extended support on Windows XP because they were unable to migrate their systems on to newer and supported versions of Windows.



    I wasted an hour earlier trying and failing to validate a Mygovid, but the software is a disaster, and after a number of attempts, using different browsers, I gave up, and if that's an example of the sort of garbage that's deemed acceptable by the state service providers, it's little wonder that they are in the complete mess that they are in now.



    Makes me wonder if they are using some sort of ancient system that was cloned off an old 80 column punch card system that then relies on all manner of stand alone sort routines and the like to produce a result, probably running on stand alone computers with no networking capability, using a version of Excel that's about 10 years out of date.


    Cynic in me says that they've blown a 64K record file size limit somewhere, and can't fix it until the consultants return from their holidays on Jan 4, as there's no one in house with the capability of fixing it.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #4009
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Doesn't appear to be supply issues, more so that they want as many people to get the first dose and have partial protection but for Pfizer they're going against what they recommend, Pfizer & BioNTech hasn't been tested at that interval on a widespread basis.

    Pfizer didn't sound happy in a press release.

    Apparently some frontline staff are furious because they didn’t consent to having that gap between doses when given the first dose .


  • #4010
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Apparently some frontline staff are furious because they didn’t consent to having that gap between doses when given the first dose .

    Well its essentially a trial, Pfizer released a statement saying they've given their dosing recommendations based on their trial & it isn't 2nd dose within 12 weeks, but that it is up to each regulator.


  • #4011
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,110 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Doesn't appear to be supply issues, more so that they want as many people to get the first dose and have partial protection but for Pfizer they're going against what they recommend, Pfizer & BioNTech hasn't been tested at that interval on a widespread basis.

    Pfizer didn't sound happy in a press release.

    As for AstraZeneca there are suggestions that the duration of the second shot from the first might not be that important, more so just that you get it in a relatively small timeline, but MHRA said they've data that isn't publicly available yet.

    There were reports last week that they would have no Pfizer supplies available from some date in January until mid March,


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  • #4012
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well its essentially a trial, Pfizer released a statement saying they've given their dosing recommendations based on their trial & it isn't 2nd dose within 12 weeks, but that it is up to each regulator.

    If it works it will be " hey we did it our way!" Again.
    If it doesn't it will be a bloody disaster , like so much in the UK this year .
    There is no way we will be doing this , I hope.
    Was told my 2nd jab was the week of the 18 th which is 3 weeks gap.


  • #4013
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Interesting, Canada will require air travellers aged five and above to test negative for Covid-19 before arrival, starting 7 January.


  • #4014
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    If it works it will be " hey we did it our way!" Again.
    If it doesn't it will be a bloody disaster , like so much in the UK this year .
    There is no way we will be doing this , I hope.
    Was told my 2nd jab was the week of the 18 th which is 3 weeks gap.

    How long until you can lick banisters again?


  • #4015
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    If it works it will be " hey we did it our way!" Again.
    If it doesn't it will be a bloody disaster , like so much in the UK this year .
    There is no way we will be doing this , I hope.
    Was told my 2nd jab was the week of the 18 th which is 3 weeks gap.

    UK is like a gambler, they lost all their money and don't have a pot to piss in, so they have to make some risky bets and hope they can at least break even.


  • #4016
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    So if close contacts are now not being tested then their close contacts have no idea if they are in fact close contacts of a positive case ?


  • #4017
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    There were reports last week that they would have no Pfizer supplies available from some date in January until mid March,

    Are you talking generally ?
    Or is that for just UK ?


  • #4018
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    So if close contacts are now not being tested then their close contacts have no idea if they are in fact close contacts of a positive case ?

    Still being informed, and told to isolate , but no test being arranged.


  • #4019
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    How long until you can lick banisters again?

    I beg your pardon?;)

    Aha get you now :)


  • #4020
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Must’ve been a lot of hospital discharges today, 8am 491 in hospital; 8pm 476 in hospital. A small positive on an otherwise grim day for numbers.

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/cov-id-19-daily-operations-update-20-00-31-december-2020.pdf


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  • #4021
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I beg your pardon?;)

    bannister.4minute.jpg

    Dont you wanna lick a bannister?


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