Amazon Prime Video, General Discussion [Ireland]

Charles Babbage · 28-12-2020 2:21pm

Quackster wrote: »

This change has zero impact on the Irish Prime Video so there's no false advertising at play here.

Good. There is enough disruption as it is.

If I switch to an Irish account
- presumably EU roaming will work in the EU
- but what will be available in the UK?

Quackster · 28-12-2020 2:23pm

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Good. There is enough disruption as it is.

If I switch to an Irish account
- presumably EU roaming will work in the EU
- but what will be available in the UK?

Yeah, Irish Prime Video will continue to work fine in other EU countries but I imagine in the UK you'll just get that extremely limited roaming catelogue, the same as you get using Irish Prime Video in any other non-EU country.

Dave..M · 28-12-2020 2:30pm

MBSnr wrote: »

TBH the only thing I've watched that would have been otherwise restricted are the PL games. But they basically finish this month anyhow. The other Amazon originals are still available in the Irish version but with the other streaming services I have, we mostly find that Amazon is the least used anyhow. If there was a means of just paying for prime delivery without all the other unused stuff like video, I'd take that option.

I've found the Primevideo to have improved the last few months (UK one anyway) and defo delivery times have improved with their own logistics, Dublin anyway (they'd gone off a cliff during the lockdown mostly due to delays on dispatch) having said that from Jan 1 I'll be looking at what kind of impact customs has on prices and delivery times and comparing to other European options and at that point will decide on whether to keep Amazon prime and after that Primevideo will be dip in & out

Jakey Rolling · 28-12-2020 2:40pm

Got that email.

I only got them to switch Prime Video to UK address as it wouldn't work at all on my Firestick (same account worked fine on all my other devices).

User interface has gone to sh*t recently, pushing premium content over the "free" inclusive content.
Looks like Prime delivery will be of less value so will be cancelling.

Full_Circle_81 · 28-12-2020 3:15pm

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Got that email.

I only got them to switch Prime Video to UK address as it wouldn't work at all on my Firestick (same account worked fine on all my other devices).

User interface has gone to sh*t recently, pushing premium content over the "free" inclusive content.
Looks like Prime delivery will be of less value so will be cancelling.

I was only in the UK version temporarily and hated the fact that paid-for premium content was mixed in with the free stuff. The Irish version has no premium content, so looks a lot cleaner.

Admittedly I have zero interest in sports, but apart from that, I don't think there's much of a gap between the UK and Irish version anymore. I find that there's far more quality content (both movies and especially tv shows) compared to Netflix. And since it's part of my overall Prime sub, offers fantastic value. I get free shipping and access to free kindle books, for almost half the price of the Netflix sub. How can you argue with that?

My only complaint would be the interface and the fact that non-Amazon movies don't stay on the service very long....

Wrongway1985 · 28-12-2020 4:52pm

ted1 wrote: »

Straight away the sport is gone. It was good for rugby in November.
No interest in soccer. The tennis was also good.

Tennis on Irish Prime.

I believe Football not on here due to Premiersports assume Rugby could be the same.

khalessi · 28-12-2020 5:12pm

Just got that email. Will it restrict viewing and is there a work around?

Sleeper12 · 28-12-2020 5:27pm

Jakey Rolling wrote:

I only got them to switch Prime Video to UK address as it wouldn't work at all on my Firestick (same account worked fine on all my other devices).

There is a prime video app on the Firestick that you should be able to get the Irish content on

Jakey Rolling wrote:

User interface has gone to sh*t recently, pushing premium content over the "free" inclusive content. Looks like Prime delivery will be of less value so will be cancelling.

There is a toggle on top of the screen "free to me" it's called & it will only show stuff included with your prime membership.

There is a whole new interface coming to Firestick. The software upgrade has gone out to the 2020 models already. 4k stick should be next few weeks

Sleeper12 · 28-12-2020 5:28pm

khalessi wrote:

Just got that email. Will it restrict viewing and is there a work around?

Smart dns will keep the status quo

Dublin'09 · 28-12-2020 7:01pm

Any recommendation on a smart dns

The Continental Op · 28-12-2020 7:12pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

There is a prime video app on the Firestick that you should be able to get the Irish content on

There is a toggle on top of the screen "free to me" it's called & it will only show stuff included with your prime membership.

There is a whole new interface coming to Firestick. The software upgrade has gone out to the 2020 models already. 4k stick should be next few weeks

Which I think is a bit of a joke as its not as if we don't pay for Prime membership.

icdg · 28-12-2020 8:40pm

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Tennis on Irish Prime.

I believe Football not on here due to Premiersports assume Rugby could be the same.

Tennis and NFL are available here. Football is not. Indeed I am surprised their leaky geoblocking lasted so long as it was infringing on Premier Sports rights to the Premier League. Sky will switch off service under the Portability Regulation after 30 days if you don’t come home.

As of now, Amazon has no further rugby rights in the U.K. or Ireland. They recently showed the Autumn Nations Cup in the U.K. only as a one off.

Quackster · 29-12-2020 1:35pm

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Got that email.

I only got them to switch Prime Video to UK address as it wouldn't work at all on my Firestick (same account worked fine on all my other devices).

User interface has gone to sh*t recently, pushing premium content over the "free" inclusive content.
Looks like Prime delivery will be of less value so will be cancelling.

Irish Prime Video works on the Firestick but you have to use the Prime Video app, you can't play directly from the homepage.

The Continental Op · 30-12-2020 6:26pm

Just noticed that New to Amazon is the 2002 mini series Steven Spielberg presents Taken. I watched it first about 10 years ago after picking up the DVD's at a car boot sale, good watch if you can put up with Dakota Fanning. Her acting is good but I just find her annoying.

If there is a Amazon Prime recommendations thread mods feel free to move this.

micks_address · 30-12-2020 6:34pm

I could watch the premier league last night on prime. I tried with a Uk vpn and wouldn’t work. I assume from tomorrow won’t be able to see the premier league games if Ireland south based?

muffler · 30-12-2020 9:02pm

micks_address wrote: »

I could watch the premier league last night on prime. I tried with a Uk vpn and wouldn’t work. I assume from tomorrow won’t be able to see the premier league games if Ireland south based?

Seems like the football will be turned off tomorrow.

Regarding the VPN Amazon have said this .....

Prime Video doesn’t support streaming content through Virtual Private Network (VPN) or proxy connections. To watch Prime Video, you must disable these services on your device or try switching to another available connection.

Taken from here

Bill Ponderosa · 30-12-2020 9:37pm

micks_address wrote: »

I could watch the premier league last night on prime. I tried with a Uk vpn and wouldn’t work. I assume from tomorrow won’t be able to see the premier league games if Ireland south based?

Think restrictions don't apply until the new year. Still working here for me.

PsychoPete · 30-12-2020 11:27pm

Watched part two of the season six of vikings. Enjoyed it, typical Viking shenanigans. Some good battles,plenty of gore and thought it wrapped up nicely

Sleeper12 · 30-12-2020 11:38pm

Bill Ponderosa wrote:

Think restrictions don't apply until the new year. Still working here for me.

EU regulations should apply until midnight 31st December. On the flip side it will be illegal for them to allow UK prime video outside of the UK from 24:01 on 1st of January. Even for UK citizens

Doodah7 · 31-12-2020 12:48am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

EU regulations should apply until midnight 31st December. On the flip side it will be illegal for them to allow UK prime video outside of the UK from 24:01 on 1st of January. Even for UK citizens

11pm (Irish time) on 31 December.

Ashbourne hoop · 31-12-2020 10:30am

Is there a massive difference in content between the UK and Irish version?

icdg · 31-12-2020 10:38am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

EU regulations should apply until midnight 31st December. On the flip side it will be illegal for them to allow UK prime video outside of the UK from 24:01 on 1st of January. Even for UK citizens

To be clear there would be nothing illegal (in the sense of committing a crime) about them doing so - there is no UK law that says “it is an offence for a video on demand provider to offer its services outside the jurisdiction” or similar. But they need to own the rights and comply with local laws in doing so.

What is the case is that they will no longer have the cover of the Portability Regulation in doing so, and as such their original contracts with third party rights owners limiting those rights to the UK can no longer be interpreted in the light of that Regulation, and so they would be in breach of contract in doing so.

Some other services, Netflix included, switch users to the “local” catalogue when they log in outside the EU. (This is not an issue between Ireland and the U.K. because Netflix’s UK and Irish catalogues are almost identical) Amazon seems to take a different approach and limits you to content that they have worldwide rights to (ie Amazon Originals). Sky will be taking the very harsh (and very wrong in my view) of stopping roaming between Ireland and the U.K. entirely which given that all their third party rights contracts cover both Ireland and the UK they simply do not need to do. Indeed Sky allowed roaming between Ireland and the U.K. long before there was a Portability Regulation in the first place.

Dave..M · 31-12-2020 11:43am

icdg wrote: »

To be clear there would be nothing illegal (in the sense of committing a crime) about them doing so - there is no UK law that says “it is an offence for a video on demand provider to offer its services outside the jurisdiction” or similar. But they need to own the rights and comply with local laws in doing so.

What is the case is that they will no longer have the cover of the Portability Regulation in doing so, and as such their original contracts with third party rights owners limiting those rights to the UK can no longer be interpreted in the light of that Regulation, and so they would be in breach of contract in doing so.

Some other services, Netflix included, switch users to the “local” catalogue when they log in outside the EU. (This is not an issue between Ireland and the U.K. because Netflix’s UK and Irish catalogues are almost identical) Amazon seems to take a different approach and limits you to content that they have worldwide rights to (ie Amazon Originals). Sky will be taking the very harsh (and very wrong in my view) of stopping roaming between Ireland and the U.K. entirely which given that all their third party rights contracts cover both Ireland and the UK they simply do not need to do. Indeed Sky allowed roaming between Ireland and the U.K. long before there was a Portability Regulation in the first place.

Sky are doing it because it has always suited their bottom line commercial prerogative to isolate the ROI from the UK wherever possible in order to maximize their price gouging of their Irish customer base. There is no other rational explanation for the historical pricing differential between the two regions. Expect them to double down wherever they can under the guise of Brexit.

Skyrimaddict · 31-12-2020 7:09pm

Is prime video to the UK in ireland.

Wanted to watch castle rock which is in the UK one.

Would a VPN work on a smart TV

Thecageyone · 31-12-2020 7:17pm

Skyrimaddict wrote: »

Is prime video to the UK in ireland.

Wanted to watch castle rock which is in the UK one.

Would a VPN work on a smart TV

Yes, you can watch UK programs but there can be niggling issues. I don't know why, but on the main site for me some movies/programs won't work, but if I use the windows app for prime [on PC] they work just fine, someone else might help you a little better regarding smart tv as I don't have one - but if it's the app version you might be fine.

Charles Babbage · 01-01-2021 12:51am

Post 11pm for those of us it thought were in the UK it seems to offer you the usual poor interface, but when you click on things it says it won't wprk at your location. This would be completely untenable. Amazon created content works.
As an international provider, Amazon should just launch the local catalogue in each place as required, which would be perfectly legal and would offer a relatively seamless service.

I am considering just starting a new "Irish" account. Would they be like to offer Prime free for a while for a new account?