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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #3422
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You went to both?

    Can you clarify I said that please?

    I live beside Liffey valley. My friend works in Blanch. But don't let this get in the way of your faux outrage


  • #3423
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You went to both?

    You don't need to visit. Google maps showing red lines on all roads approaching both. Lots of cars equals lots of visitors.


  • #3424
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Only 138 people vaccinated in first three days in France.

    EU mess.


  • #3425
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    You can see on Google maps that dundrum shopping centre is teeming with people and viruses again today

    Thought restrictions already kicked in. Is it midnight tonight?


  • #3426
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yes it is a routine virus outbreak. Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, SARS, this.

    Army trucks transported bodies from N. Italian hospitals because funeral homes had been *restricted* from doing so by the local government, not because of a New Black Death scenario.

    Do you also think that young people typically drop dead in the streets from covid?


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  • #3427
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Thought restrictions already kicked in. Is it midnight tonight?

    6pm this evening.


  • #3428
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    antodeco wrote: »
    Blanch and Liffey valley are madness also. Borderline "normal". We really have no hope

    People wanting to get last minute stuff before the shut down

    That's what happens when you shut retail just for the sake of it


  • #3429
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Thought restrictions already kicked in. Is it midnight tonight?

    I think it's from 6pm. Why they've allowed this is beyond me.


  • #3430
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,280 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    France is set to deploy 100,000 police and gendarmes across the country on December 31 to help impose a New Year's Eve curfew.

    Isn't it mad the difference between here and other countries that can enforce rules?


  • #3431
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Surely it can only be a desire for a pint that is causing issues, well it seems to be the overriding claim here.
    Seriously I agree you and I don’t think our mental health services will be up to the task. They haven’t in the past.

    Could also be financial factors related to businesses affected, closures, job loses triggering suicides. Unfortunately, instead of reaching an equilibrium, we tend to ride a sinusoidal wave.


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  • #3432
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    France is set to deploy 100,000 police and gendarmes across the country on December 31 to help impose a New Year's Eve curfew.

    Isn't it mad the difference between here and other countries that can enforce rules?

    Imagine actively wishing for a police state


  • #3433
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    growleaves wrote: »
    Yes it is a routine virus outbreak. Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, SARS, this.

    Army trucks transported bodies from N. Italian hospitals because funeral homes had been *restricted* from doing so by the local government, not because of a New Black Death scenario.

    Do you also think that young people typically drop dead in the streets from covid?

    This old cr@p again? Slow day is it???


  • #3434
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    antodeco wrote: »
    Can you clarify I said that please?

    I live beside Liffey valley. My friend works in Blanch. But don't let this get in the way of your faux outrage

    I asked a question. No faux outrage at all. Although New Year’s Eve last few hours before non essential retail is closed for 6 to 8 weeks hardly a surprise they’re busy.


  • #3435
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Only 138 people vaccinated in first three days in France.

    EU mess.
    Apparently only 40% of the French are likely to get the vaccine.


  • #3436
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,341 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    growleaves wrote: »
    Yes it is a routine virus outbreak. Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, SARS, this.

    Army trucks transported bodies from N. Italian hospitals because funeral homes had been *restricted* from doing so by the local government, not because of a New Black Death scenario.

    Do you also think that young people typically drop dead in the streets from covid?

    Mod:

    I think you're in the wrong place.

    The Conspiracy Theory Forum may suit posts of yours like these better.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #3437
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    The thread moved fast today, how are hospitalisations?


  • #3438
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    France is set to deploy 100,000 police and gendarmes across the country on December 31 to help impose a New Year's Eve curfew.

    Isn't it mad the difference between here and other countries that can enforce rules?

    One of the differences is resource’s. France has them we don’t. Hence why the government has asked people to stay home. Also our police operate on ‘policing by consent’ whereas France and the majority of Europe doesn’t.


  • #3439
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    The thread moved fast today, how are hospitalisations?
    A lot higher, over 500 and you might want to brace yourself for a very big number of cases today. A huge backlog it seems.


  • #3440
    Ironhead93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Ironhead93


    Just to chip in on the mental health topic, just this morning the gardai came to my apartment building at the scene of a suicide, a man in his 30s, on the floor below me. He lost his job apparently, that's the third suicide I have heard of by chance in December alone. (One other being in the same apartment building 3 weeks ago, the other was my work's HR manager's husband). Anyone downplaying the mental health implications of this lockdown should have a hard look at themselves. I'm lucky enough to not have experienced any friends or family members taking the final step but I can't imagine a worse scenario for a family.


  • #3441
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    is_that_so wrote: »
    A lot higher, over 500 and you might want to brace yourself for a very big number of cases today. A huge backlog it seems.

    I’ve been watching the backlog build alright. Feck that’s a lot of hospitalisations. Where do we get the numbers for those? I use the Shane Hastings one for swab datas


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  • #3442
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    I’ve been watching the backlog build alright. Feck that’s a lot of hospitalisations. Where do we get the numbers for those? I use the Shane Hastings one for swab datas

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

    HSE covid dashboard


  • #3443
    feelings
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭feelings


    I'm sure it's been asked but i cannot see it. Is there somewhere to see the number of vaccinations being done by day or week?


  • #3444
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Ironhead93 wrote: »
    Anyone downplaying the mental health implications of this lockdown should have a hard look at themselves.

    I don't think many downplay the implications. The issue is that some people use "mental health" as an excuse to do whatever they want.

    Obviously the pandemic is also a mental health crisis.


  • #3445
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    I’ve been watching the backlog build alright. Feck that’s a lot of hospitalisations. Where do we get the numbers for those? I use the Shane Hastings one for swab datas

    Most of them as usual will be catching it inside the hospital rather than presenting to hospital because of it.


  • #3446
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    feelings wrote: »
    I'm sure it's been asked but i cannot see it. Is there somewhere to see the number of vaccinations being done by day or week?

    Not sure if there is any reliable data yet, but I think they were planning to include the vaccination numbers with the other daily numbers.


  • #3447
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    A friend of mine committed suicide recently and various circumstances around Covid were a significant exacerbating factor, unfortunately. Maybe it is because of this that I feel this way, (so I could be wrong) -
    I think people should gird their loins and prepare for 2021 to continue being difficult. Mentally prepare yourself for a long drawn out alleviation of the present situation, if an alleviation materialises significantly at all. The first quarter is going to be unpleasant regardless.
    It is better to prepare this way than to be foolishly blown hither and yon with fluctuating hope. The vaccines will take a long time to have an effect on everyone. Many will not take them. The vaccine may also not prevent significant morbidity - flu vaccine does not reduce death or hospitalisation in the over 65s - I know flu vaccines and covid vaccines are different (don't worry, my clever son has given me all the science!) - but none the less we do not know that efficacy = effectiveness, or that it will have a massive or quick effect on the health care systems.
    Anyways, just mentally prepare to be stoic and endure whatever comes, and if it gets better quickly, then we can all celebrate riotously!


  • #3448
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Most of them as usual will be catching it inside the hospital rather than presenting to hospital because of it.
    Someone mentioned outbreaks in CUH. It's quite "fortunate" that they chose to do some hospitals this week.


  • #3449
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    iguana wrote: »
    6pm this evening.

    Ah, thanks.


  • #3450
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Ironhead93 wrote: »
    Just to chip in on the mental health topic, just this morning the gardai came to my apartment building at the scene of a suicide, a man in his 30s, on the floor below me. He lost his job apparently, that's the third suicide I have heard of by chance in December alone. (One other being in the same apartment building 3 weeks ago, the other was my work's HR manager's husband). Anyone downplaying the mental health implications of this lockdown should have a hard look at themselves. I'm lucky enough to not have experienced any friends or family members taking the final step but I can't imagine a worse scenario for a family.

    I'm very sorry to hear that.

    Just to be clear, I'm not trying to downplay the mental health aspect of this. It's very real. There are undoubtedly people who are being crippled by stress/anxiety/depression and I have huge sympathy for them.

    It's the folks saying "this will affect my mental health" because I can't play golf/go to the gym/go to the pub/go on holidays. Many of those aren't suffering mental health problems...they're just less happy because their lives are being restricted.


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  • #3451
    Widescreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    The first lock down actually did the trick at the time.

    2km limit from your home, strongly advised to work from home if possible, non-essential business shut, schools closed.

    Current lockdown is a diluted version and will not work. It hadn't worked by December and the m*****s opened things up and now look at the carnage they have created.

    Why won’t it work?
    5km is too wide a distance, it should be 2km.
    Enforce people who returned to work after initial lockdown to work from home again.
    Non-essential business list is a joke, they should do a list of essential businesses instead, it should be easier to compile. Most businesses deemed non-essential then seem “essential now! In fairness a Car Wash is essential?-they are having a laugh.
    Only exam year students should do lessons in school. Others should do online.
    Enforce the restrictions properly, that is never done.
    I think Level 5 needs to be updated with these and other measures I haven’t thought of.
    The current level is only really a Level 4.
    If restrictions stay as they are and the 9-5 vaccine process continues we will be doing this crap for the next 10 years and most importantly many people dying unnecessarily.


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