Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

wadacrack · 31-12-2020 10:22AM

wadacrack wrote: »

We are looking at 550 or so in hospital in week

491 now in hospital. Not looking good. 550 looks an underestimate

oldtimeyfella · 31-12-2020 10:27AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Ah yes, not the people out filming them. Funny they don’t appear to be ‘terrified of catching Covid’ as they seem to make it their business to show up at busy places to film people. Pathetic behaviour.

1 person filming a crowd of people breaking restrictions but the 1 person is the one in the wrong?

That about sums up most people's attitudes to this pandemic at this stage. A nation of mindless consumers.

caveat emptor · 31-12-2020 10:29AM

Yeah hospitals are very concerning. Spare a thought for those that’ll work in them in the coming weeks. Listen to an icu doctor in london. If the variant really is more transmissible then hospitals and ICU will come under severe pressure.

https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1344543533173190663?s=21

manniot2 · 31-12-2020 10:29AM

It surely must be time to have the army on the streets picking people up no questions asked when non complying with restrictions.

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31-12-2020 10:33AM

awec wrote: »

No I mean what does doing a sweep mean?

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

And clowns knacker drinking on the streets, no protection and no control.

On the streets, outside, in the open air. People really do get annoyed at the wrong stuff on here.

petes · 31-12-2020 10:36AM

Renjit wrote: »

Keep on having some fun at the expense of businesses shutting down

You think any of this is fun? Before you come back with 'well some posters...etc.' don't bother.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 31-12-2020 10:40AM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

I sincerely hope they aren't waiting for the US trial results (some reports saying April!)

Prediction: If the EU is still twiddling its thumbs on the AstraZeneca vaccine come the end of January, lots of countries will break away from 'EMA solidarity' and make their own calls.

The problem with Oxford Astra Zenaca is that plan a pretty much failed.

Plan a was take a dose wait 3 weeks and take a second dose. 62% efficacy. All well and good but it doesn't compare to Pfizer and Moderna so if sits on the sidelines.

Plan b and c have good data but tiny numbers involved in the trials.

Plan b being half dose wait 3 weeks full dose.

Plan c being full dose wait 12 weeks full dose.

So theres basically a choice between 3 different plans with Oxford and two of them don't have enough data to approve it.

It is what it is but I can understand conservatism.

At the same time I can imagine someone putting pressure on EMA to approve.

KathleenGrant · 31-12-2020 10:41AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah hospitals are very concerning. Spare a thought for those that’ll work in them in the coming weeks. Listen to an icu doctor in london. If the variant really is more transmissible then hospitals and ICU will come under severe pressure.

https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1344543533173190663?s=21

Very powerful interview there and a little scary thinking we are not seeing the effects of xmas yet.

octsol · 31-12-2020 10:42AM

wadacrack wrote: »

491 now in hospital. Not looking good. 550 looks an underestimate

Thats not good at all was ut 466 last night at 8pm

caveat emptor · 31-12-2020 10:50AM

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Very powerful interview there and a little scary thinking we are not seeing the effects of xmas yet.

Yeah he said 10 days from infection to ICU on average so we haven’t even seen the effects of the Xmas yet.

TonyMaloney · 31-12-2020 10:56AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Yep 57 was the previous highest on the 9/4/2020

A record 60 hospital admissions yesterday.

Another 52 so far today. 491 now in hospital.

Gruffalux · 31-12-2020 10:57AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah hospitals are very concerning. Spare a thought for those that’ll work in them in the coming weeks. Listen to an icu doctor in london. If the variant really is more transmissible then hospitals and ICU will come under severe pressure.

https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1344543533173190663?s=21

Frightening, really. I don't listen to news etc so maybe I am just surprised by the severity of his message because of that. ''I'm watching whole families getting wiped out here''..

is_that_so · 31-12-2020 10:57AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

The problem with Oxford Astra Zenaca is that plan a pretty much failed.

Plan a was take a dose wait 3 weeks and take a second dose. 62% efficacy. All well and good but it doesn't compare to Pfizer and Moderna so if sits on the sidelines.

Plan b and c have good data but tiny numbers involved in the trials.

Plan b being half dose wait 3 weeks full dose.

Plan c being full dose wait 12 weeks full dose.

So theres basically a choice between 3 different plans with Oxford and two of them don't have enough data to approve it.

It is what it is but I can understand conservatism.

At the same time I can imagine someone putting pressure on EMA to approve.

I think they are well covered with "show us more data" and it's really down to Oxford to sort that out.

caveat emptor · 31-12-2020 11:02AM

Hospital numbers are accelerating. They said in the briefing what we are seeing in all of the indicators is actually beyond the worse case scenario.

Away With The Fairies · 31-12-2020 11:10AM

Does anyone know if off licences remain open in these new restrictions?

I think if they're serious to suppress this virus and it happens with people mixing in homes, they need to make these gatherings dry.

caveat emptor · 31-12-2020 11:12AM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Frightening, really. I don't listen to news etc so maybe I am just surprised by the severity of his message because of that. ''I'm watching whole families getting wiped out here''..

Yeah that was shocking or the fact he is getting called back in for a pregnant woman this morning who took a turn like so many others. He isn't some attention seeking doctor either. Has twitter, hasn't posted since may. He just sounds fed up with the effect of people's behaviour. Was clear to make it apolitical and gave examples of how we are all contributing to the problem they have to deal with.

alentejo · 31-12-2020 11:13AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Does anyone know if off licences remain open in these new restrictions?

I think if they're serious to suppress this virus and it happens with people mixing in homes, they need to make these gatherings dry.

Off licences are open as are supermarkets selling alcohol. Why penalize the majority of people who are not mixing with other households during this difficult time?

coastwatch · 31-12-2020 11:13AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Does anyone know if off licences remain open in these new restrictions?

I think if they're serious to suppress this virus and it happens with people mixing in homes, they need to make these gatherings dry.

You're putting the trolls out of work

No chance.

is_that_so · 31-12-2020 11:14AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Does anyone know if off licences remain open in these new restrictions?

I think if they're serious to suppress this virus and it happens with people mixing in homes, they need to make these gatherings dry.

Effectively prohibiting it wouldn't work! Even if it's only tea parties, it's the gatherings that do it!

Away With The Fairies · 31-12-2020 11:18AM

alentejo wrote: »

Off licences are open as are supermarkets selling alcohol. Why penalize the majority of people who are not mixing with other households during this difficult time?

It's the people mixing that's the problem. Blame them. I think banning alcohol is a sensible measure to help suppress this damn thing.

Away With The Fairies · 31-12-2020 11:19AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Effectively prohibiting it wouldn't work! Even if it's only tea parties, it's the gatherings that do it!

You're not going to have a huge tea party though?

petes · 31-12-2020 11:20AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Does anyone know if off licences remain open in these new restrictions?

I think if they're serious to suppress this virus and it happens with people mixing in homes, they need to make these gatherings dry.

How many alcoholics do you want turning up at A & E when going through withdrawals?

You may think this isn't an issue but unfortunately it is.

Some will say sure just send them on their way with a prescription for Librium but it's still putting unnecessary pressure on the system.

Happydays2020 · 31-12-2020 11:20AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Effectively prohibiting it wouldn't work! Even if it's only tea parties, it's the gatherings that do it!

Agree- The first lockdown and a good portion of the second was enforced through hearts and minds. People agreed with the need to minimise social interactions.

stateofflux · 31-12-2020 11:20AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Does anyone know if off licences remain open in these new restrictions?

I think if they're serious to suppress this virus and it happens with people mixing in homes, they need to make these gatherings dry.

Away with the fairies is right.

Off Licences will not be closed

TheValeyard · 31-12-2020 11:22AM

5km rule starting now or when?

Plumbthedepths · 31-12-2020 11:23AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's the people mixing that's the problem. Blame them. I think banning alcohol is a sensible measure to help suppress this damn thing.

A friend of mine works in a hospital, her relief is a bottle of wine on her days off, should she denied this to make you feel better?

Happydays2020 · 31-12-2020 11:24AM

TheValeyard wrote: »

5km rule starting now or when?

In place now.

ElJeffe · 31-12-2020 11:26AM

Paul Reid on the radio pleading with people to be responsible. What a sorry state of affairs.

The shameful action of people meeting up over the Xmas period failing to use their common sense had fcuked us all.

Happydays2020 · 31-12-2020 11:28AM

This is the advice in the IT today.

Plumbthedepths · 31-12-2020 11:28AM

ElJeffe wrote: »

Paul Reid on the radio pleading with people to be responsible. What a sorry state of affairs.

The shameful action of people meeting up over the Xmas period failing to use their common sense had fcuked us all.

Do you think repeating the same mantra everyday is constructive?

Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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