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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #2552
    Jaded Walker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Jaded Walker


    Track and trace not being able to keep up is a major black mark against the HSE and government. We had this problem before and they had loads of time to fix it but clearly nothing has been done.


  • #2553
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,045 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Danzy wrote: »
    Possible but you can't be certain on that.

    They themselves have no Idea what the next month will bring. Things have changed a lot in Europe and here, Britain in the last few weeks.

    Ok, unless things are completely screwed, schools will open. The alternative will be disastrous for too many families.


  • #2554
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    awec wrote: »
    The schools aren't going to stay closed until March. The government are not going to put people out of work again for another 2 months.

    Even INTO asked for only until the 11th Jan.

    Where have I said any of that?

    They said all along that schools won't be closing yet here we are, closed until the 11th. Then you come along and say there is 0% chance if that happening as if that's fact when it clearly isn't.


  • #2555
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Bit naive to be so certain.

    Is it just me or do you remember literally yesterday everyone saying "Not a chance they'll close them longer" 24 hours later.........Nobody will considering something that was also inconceivable. Round and round we go.


  • #2556
    noble00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭noble00


    livia21 wrote: »
    My 16 yr old daughter said less than half her class are wearing masks since october..they just refuse

    I’m all for schools closing if it stops the spread but I don’t think it will there are at least three or four from different households hanging out every day together that’s all day you see them out and that’s only from my estate. If they continue it might stop the spread in school but it won’t in households


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  • #2557
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,385 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    The government are rolling out a new level system in January called the Holohan system.

    Level 1: Worrying trend
    Level 2: Concerned
    Level 3: Worried for sure
    Level 4: Increasingly Concerned
    Level 5: Deeply Concerned

    Levels 2-5 mandate that people stay at home and do nothing.

    They are now adding a new level to this Holohan system...

    Level 5+: You people disgust me.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #2558
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    awec wrote: »
    The schools aren't going to stay closed until March. The government are not going to put people out of work again for another 2 months.

    Even INTO asked for only until the 11th Jan.

    Can you stop making blanket statements like they are fact. It isn't helpful. If you can see the future please PM me tonight's lotto numbers.


  • #2559
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,391 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Anyone see anything on adult disability services yet they closed in March with little to no notice


  • #2560
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    awec wrote: »
    The schools aren't going to stay closed until March. The government are not going to put people out of work again for another 2 months.

    Even INTO asked for only until the 11th Jan.

    It all depends on whether case numbers start falling again. If they are still increasing by the 11th Jan, they will have to keep schools closed. I'd be optimistic that we will see case numbers stabilise by mid next week, and then be falling by the end of the week. But we really don't know, particularly with the new variant.


  • #2561
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,045 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    petes wrote: »
    Where have I said any of that?

    They said all along that schools won't be closing yet here we are, closed until the 11th. Then you come along and say there is 0% chance if that happening as if that's fact when it clearly isn't.

    I said there was 0% chance of them staying closed until March.


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  • #2562
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    It is an extra couple of days. This is almost a nonstory. Can we get a grip on reality and calm the outrage.

    It’s an extra couple of days, IF they reopen on 11th. And imho there are 2 chances of that.

    And in the meantime the teenagers will be out in parks and anywhere else they can congregate.


  • #2563
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    Necro wrote: »
    My kid was due back on the 5th so it's just under a week extra... so far

    I know but at least its a start Hope that is thin end of wedge and they keep closed until numbers are well down


  • #2564
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    So what will the first 'c' word spoken at the briefing later?

    1) "critical"

    2) "crucial"

    3) "cases"

    4) "control"

    5) "crisis"

    6) "catastrophe"

    7) "covid"

    8) "chaos"

    9) "can't/cannot"

    10) none of the above


  • #2565
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    So 4 and a bit weeks to start with

    https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1344327352977936384?s=19


  • #2566
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    awec wrote: »
    Ok, unless things are completely screwed, schools will open. The alternative will be disastrous for too many families.

    In terms of damaging education or in terms of childminding etc.?


  • #2567
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    awec wrote: »
    I said there was 0% chance of them staying closed until March.

    You also said they'll definitely open on 11th. I really wouldn't be sure unless there is a dramatic reduction in cases, which is highly unlikely by then. My money is on at least another week or 2 after that now that they've planted the seed that schools can close.


  • #2568
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Will Yam wrote: »
    It’s an extra couple of days, IF they reopen on 11th. And imho there are 2 chances of that.

    And in the meantime the teenagers will be out in parks and anywhere else they can congregate.

    We could just stick to discussing what we know and that is that we have pushed the opening date back a few days. This is an always evolving situation that I am sure will be evaluated again when needed. We have a vaccine rollout happening and strict measures coming to try and control the numbers which could mean things look much better in a couple of weeks. We just have to wait and see how things progress.


  • #2569
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    awec wrote: »
    I said there was 0% chance of them staying closed until March.

    So, is that an absolute fact that they won't stay closed until March? I agree with you that they probably won't but you can't know that for certain either.


  • #2570
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    So what will the first 'c' word spoken at the briefing later?

    1) "critical"

    2) "crucial"

    3) "cases"

    4) "control"

    5) "crisis"

    6) "catastrophe"

    7) "covid"

    8) "chaos"

    9) "can't/cannot"

    10) none of the above


    You missed “concerned”


  • #2571
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Jaded Walker wrote: »
    Track and trace not being able to keep up is a major black mark against the HSE and government. We had this problem before and they had loads of time to fix it but clearly nothing has been done.

    track and trace has not been able to keep up in any country, with the possible exception of new zealand.


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  • #2572
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    So 4 and a bit weeks to start with

    https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1344327352977936384?s=19

    Exactly 4 weeks to start with.... it was only 2 weeks back in March.


  • #2573
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Will Yam wrote: »
    You missed “concerned”

    And "Catari Jaguar"


  • #2574
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    froog wrote: »
    except things are escalating rapidly. nothing is off the table now.

    Yup, a lot have still not realised this yet or simply can't. They should realise by now that depending on how things change that other things can change rapidly.

    The only things that are absolutely guaranteed to stay open going forward are essential retail AKA places where you can buy food. That's it. And depending on whether things get worse or not even the 5km limit isn't certain.

    People have been saying for months with certainty that X won't happen or Y won't happen - only for it then to happen.


  • #2575
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    So what will the first 'c' word spoken at the briefing later?

    1) "critical"

    2) "crucial"

    3) "cases"

    4) "control"

    5) "crisis"

    6) "catastrophe"

    7) "covid"

    8) "chaos"

    9) "can't/cannot"

    10) none of the above

    "Crossroads" and "critical juncture".


  • #2576
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Will Yam wrote: »
    You missed “concerned”

    Seriously, how the fúck did I miss that :pac:


  • #2577
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,045 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Will Yam wrote: »
    In terms of damaging education or in terms of childminding etc.?

    In terms of the workforce being unable to work.


  • #2578
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    "Crossroads" and "critical juncture".

    give you the first, but "critical juncture" covered by "critical" in the list :pac:


  • #2579
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    awec wrote: »
    Ok, unless things are completely screwed, schools will open. The alternative will be disastrous for too many families.

    It'll be a complete bollox of a situation but that doesn't mean it won't happen or be needed.


  • #2580
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Will Yam wrote: »
    In terms of damaging education or in terms of childminding etc.?

    I would suggest both. I don’t agree with using schools as a babysitting service but pragmatic enough to know for many it is. Also it can the one environment where certain children feel safe and nurtured.


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  • #2581
    Psychedelic Hedgehog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    Well I hope that everyone who advocated ignoring restrictions, and meeting people without a concern for how this would affect others are happy with themselves.


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