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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1472
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Some people read meaning into synchronicity.

    Anyway, it seems that the media and government are blaming the recent increase in UK on the Kent variant, rather than pre-Christmas relaxing of restrictions.
    I don't think the evidence is conclusive enough for that yet.

    I think some people are so down the rabbit holes of believing in off the wall conspiracies that they will use anything to try and justify their beliefs. Same in US with that Qanon stuff.


  • #1473
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    Gael23 wrote: »
    1566 cases and 14 deaths across the border
    Thats in Ireland as a whole. Its the same country, they arnt separate.


  • #1474
    DOCARCH
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    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Thats in Ireland as a whole. Its the same country, they arnt separate.

    For reporting Covid they are.


  • #1475
    Stheno
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    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Thats in Ireland as a whole. Its the same country, they arnt separate.

    No those are the Northern Ireland figures only


  • #1476
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I'm hearing from people in Dublin that they are finding it increasingly difficult to get a test, waiting a couple of days or more.

    The fact that they've reduced the requirement for close contacts to be tested only once instead of twice seems to indicate that the system is under serious pressure.

    It’s clear that HSE and government completely failed in building any systems for test and trace..

    People laugh about the U.K. response and numbers - they at least managed to implement testing capacity of up to 700k per day... their tracing system is as bad as ours though


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  • #1477
    Itssoeasy
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    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Thats in Ireland as a whole. Its the same country, they arnt separate.

    Did I miss something in this exchange ? That’s the number for Northern Ireland and not the Republic of Ireland. There is a a border between the two parts of the island.


  • #1478
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Gael23 wrote: »
    1566 cases and 14 deaths across the border

    It's hard to reconcile how they have mismanaged so badly over so many months.

    That SF funeral was a real screw up. The politicians are suppose to lead by example. I wonder how many just said "**** it" after that.


  • #1479
    bazermc
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    Presume no HSE briefings this week?


  • #1480
    TonyMaloney
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    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I'm hearing from people in Dublin that they are finding it increasingly difficult to get a test, waiting a couple of days or more.

    The fact that they've reduced the requirement for close contacts to be tested only once instead of twice seems to indicate that the system is under serious pressure.

    It's worth keeping in mind though that the positivity rate will surely increase if close contacts now only need to be tested once. Or am I missing something?

    I'm not saying you're wrong, but we managed 22,000+ tests on two consecutive days just before Christmas. So why would we be struggling now?

    Or are you saying that we're about to start maxing out capacity from tomorrow?


  • #1481
    RandomViewer
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    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I'm hearing from people in Dublin that they are finding it increasingly difficult to get a test, waiting a couple of days or more.

    The fact that they've reduced the requirement for close contacts to be tested only once instead of twice seems to indicate that the system is under serious pressure.

    It's worth keeping in mind though that the positivity rate will surely increase if close contacts now only need to be tested once. Or am I missing something?
    Theres a cluster outside Letterkenny, first case was detected in a child last Tuesday, close contacts weren't contacted till Saturday, some got positives yesterday so now their contacts have to test, that's seven days of f##k knows how many contacts,


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  • #1482
    ureds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭ureds


    With airports and ferry ports closed for passengers how are all the UK visitors going to get back?


  • #1483
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    For reporting Covid they are.
    Just add that toll to the souths numbers this evening. Why on earth would anyone think we are separate. Its one tiny country. The numbers are huge.


  • #1484
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,008 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's hard to reconcile how they have mismanaged so badly over so many months.

    That SF funeral was a real screw up. The politicians are suppose to lead by example. I wonder how many just said "**** it" after that.

    Well the political system up there doesn’t in any way help the fight against Covid. I mean they barely agreed to an extension of restrictions because the DUP and Sinn Fein couldn’t agree. I understand there are huge differences there but surely to Christ a public health emergency would focus the mind on it rather than the other stuff which at the moment is not that important.


  • #1485
    Itssoeasy
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    ureds wrote: »
    With airports and ferry ports closed for passengers how are all the UK visitors going to get back?

    They won’t.


  • #1486
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    ureds wrote: »
    With airports and ferry ports closed for passengers how are all the UK visitors going to get back?
    Perhaps they should stay. They came over knowing the situation. They are Irish with families here.


  • #1487
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    An interesting thread, the jury is still out essentially in either direction

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343878143925493766?s=19

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343842048080801792?s=19

    To follow up on this from earlier, its just one view point, there are others of course which are the complete opposite but he's been fairly spot on throughout & backing up the viewpoint, still alot of road to travel on this before going either way

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343938209177333760?s=19


  • #1488
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's hard to reconcile how they have mismanaged so badly over so many months.

    That SF funeral was a real screw up. The politicians are suppose to lead by example. I wonder how many just said "**** it" after that.

    They’ve just shown they’re not fit to govern themselves, any of them. Disgraceful lack of leadership even in the face of deaths, they can’t agree to get on with things for a greater good. Shame on them.

    As for ourselves, wondering and worrying about the trajectory we’re going to see. Heard today some of our close neighbours are infected. You just never know.


  • #1489
    [Deleted User]
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    They won’t.

    Ferries are carrying car and foot passengers as long as you can evidence permanent residency in Ireland. Need to get an approved from the DFA but sailings are going ahead as normal (as they should due to freight volumes)


  • #1490
    Itssoeasy
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ferries are carrying car and foot passengers as long as you can evidence permanent residency in Ireland. Need to get an approved from the DFA but sailings are going ahead as normal (as they should due to freight volumes)

    What about going from Ireland to the UK ?


  • #1491
    [Deleted User]
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    What about going from Ireland to the UK ?

    No restrictions. UK continues to recognise the CTA


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  • #1492
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's hard to reconcile how they have mismanaged so badly over so many months.

    That SF funeral was a real screw up. The politicians are suppose to lead by example. I wonder how many just said "**** it" after that.

    For a Pandemic, politics needs to be put to the side. Yes SF screwed up but instead of parking that, moving on and doing what needs to be done, the cretinous DUP and their ilk would not align with an all island approach.

    Look at the likes of Lord Kilclooney on twitter. Encouraging people to to travel to and from the UK via the Republic. Trying to drag us down with them.

    At this point, I'm in favour of putting a temporary border in place with the North to get a handle on the pandemic. As difficult as that may be and within the overall context of Brexit.


  • #1493
    Juwwi
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    ureds wrote: »
    With airports and ferry ports closed for passengers how are all the UK visitors going to get back?


    There are loads of flights from Dublin to the UK still operating .


  • #1494
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's hard to reconcile how they have mismanaged so badly over so many months.

    That SF funeral was a real screw up. The politicians are suppose to lead by example. I wonder how many just said "**** it" after that.

    Ah tis easy enough Kermit. They can't agree on the day of the week up there never mind policy never mind managing a public health emergency.


  • #1495
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    I'm not saying you're wrong, but we managed 22,000+ tests on two consecutive days just before Christmas. So why would we be struggling now?

    Or are you saying that we're about to start maxing out capacity from tomorrow?

    I always thought that was going to happen. If you don't test we don't have a problem. Coupled with the "do your own contact tracing" Tried and tested strategies to keep numbers from getting too high. Hearing from people that testing delays occurring in Dublin at least.

    Unfortunately the story below will be replicated many times here over the next week.

    https://twitter.com/threadreaderapp/status/1343813427911938049?s=20


  • #1496
    Itssoeasy
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    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    For a Pandemic, politics needs to be put to the side. Yes SF screwed up but instead of parking that, moving on and doing what needs to be done, the cretinous DUP and their ilk would not align with an all island approach.

    Look at the likes of Lord Kilclooney on twitter. Encouraging people to to travel to and from the UK via the Republic. Trying to drag us down with them.

    At this point, I'm in favour of putting a temporary border in place with the North to get a handle on the pandemic. As difficult as that may be and within the overall context of Brexit.

    You’d think so anyway.


  • #1497
    Avoation1091
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    Juwwi wrote: »
    There are loads of flights from Dublin to the UK still operating .

    But just from IRL to the UK. Aer lingus have cancelled return flights. Ryanair as well.


  • #1498
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    awec wrote: »
    You can’t work from home if kids are at home. This is why they are so keen to keep schools open, closing them down has an enormous cascading cost.

    They can if they try and if the employers dont agree they need arms twisted. OPening them has had a terrible cost which is finally coming home to roost


  • #1499
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp


  • #1500
    mcburns07
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp

    Ah **** it all :(


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  • #1501
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    Avoation1091 wrote: »
    But just from IRL to the UK. Aer lingus have cancelled return flights. Ryanair as well.

    And there are no more repatriation flights planned. So anyone returning has to get the ferry

    That said, if you are driving or else happy to get the ferry, there remain no impediments to moving between Ireland and the UK and back again (as long as you have proof of irish residency). But the volumes doing that would be minuscule. People moving house maybe. Certainly no tourists


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