Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Science is great! that’s why I love the Vaccine thread. Everything on here is scaremongering boliox with the “wait for two weeks” mentality.

nocoverart wrote: »

Science is great! that’s why I love the Vaccine thread. Everything on here is scaremongering boliox with the “wait for two weeks” mentality.

Nobody has been vaccinated

Not one person

majcos wrote: »

Those putting it off probably all haven’t come in to hospital/gone to their GPs yet.

There is always a bit of putting it off around Christmas with all sorts of illnesses. People don’t have easy access to their GP so some will wait a few days longer than they would do on a regular week to get checked out. Some would have delayed going to see GP even if there was an appointment available and would have delayed in presenting to EDs as they didn’t want to be in hospital themselves on Christmas Day

Usually a clear out of people on Christmas Eve and day or so before Christmas Eve. Some may not be 100% ready for discharge but the boundaries are pushed by patients and staff to get people home for Christmas. Then a deluge of admissions happens on the 27th/28th. This year that deluge could happen on 29th/30th. Even a Tuesday after a regular bank holiday weekend is extra busy in GP practices and EDs.

This is great info. Thanks.

Fingers crossed our current admissions are christmassy and will go back in line with where they should be.
That said your upcoming "deluge of admissions" is markedly less comforting.

You're very helpful with current conditions and what's going on behind the numbers, so how about a learned prediction?

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Nobody has been vaccinated

Not one person

Not directly at you, but this Virus has shown how miserable some posters on the internet are.

Lots of posters on Boards are bitter fooks that never want this to end

But why?

I’m not sure

Probably just simply a lack of sexual activity

That would be sad

But look into it

I’ll give you two weeks

maebee wrote: »

I put you on ignore months ago. I couldn't remember the reason why. Now I remember - stupidity.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/27/world/covid-19-coronavirus-updates

I've been talking about Ireland all night.

Please, please put me back on ignore

RandomViewer wrote: »

Nursing homes are tested every 2 weeks, they've tightened their act up, unlikely they make up many of the numbers

So if it is not nursing homes filling the hospitals, the vaccinations will not make a substantial different to numbers in Ireland until at least April/May.

A lot happened today.

Contact tracing has broken down. Six groups of people I know are dealing with outbreaks in families, friend groups, workplaces. Even though there are confirmed positives in all of the groups, majority are not being offered tests, nor told to restrict movements, putting further family members and close contacts at risk of spread.

The contract tracers are still catching up on testing from when schools were in, meaning that loads of people had Christmas not knowing they should have self isolated. Most cases are not connected to schools anymore at this late stage, so will be recorded as separate.

A mass outbreak at a Hamburg school goes back to one person, genome sequencing shows. The study will now be made public through "Ask the State". (German equivalent of FoI). That article, shared here earlier by another kind poster, appears to show the German state covering up the spread of covid in schools. They're actually misrepresenting the situation in one particular school where there was an outbreak to make it look like evidence of schools' safety, even as genome sequencing only they had access to proved that the outbreak was all from a single source.

But I'm SURE our government wouldn't do that!

https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinaBroe1/status/1343649051166838785

The new strain is ripping through the UK, completely collapsing its health system and it's been carried in here by returning ex-pats with absolutely no safeguards to stop it. I'm sure the HSE will be able to manage that one.

So I got the provisions in today and I'm checking out competely until January 6th. It was interesting reading this thread while I was here over the Christmas break.

Best of luck everyone! We're going to need it with the month that's ahead of us. Don't ever let anyone tell you you're not special and unique and remember to always wear sunscreen.

Once we get to the stage where all the vulnerable and all frontline medical staff are vaccinated the entire money pit of tracing needs to be decommissioned. If people want it continued driving on the road should be banned as deaths here per year would be higher.

Duke of Url wrote: »

But your answering your own question

Numbers rise when some individuals don’t take precautions.

1 person in a family of 4 doesn’t take precautions and contracts COVID.

That’s not going to be 1 case. It ends up as 4 cases.

What do you think would happen if the Government lifted restrictions now and stopped the COVID campaigns?

Thats not true, plenty of cases where one member of a household contracts the virus yet nobody else in that house gets infected.
There is still so much to learn about the virus, from the way some get infected and others don't, to how it seems to effect people (often healthy) differently and to varying degrees of severity.

nocoverart wrote: »

Not directly at you, but this Virus has shown how miserable some posters on the internet are.

Lots of posters on Boards are bitter fooks that never want this to end

But why?

I’m not sure

Probably just simply a lack of sexual activity

That would be sad

Not directly at you, but weren't you complaining a few weeks ago about not having gotten laid in ages? Not that it's an unreasonable complaint, but it's a bit childish to then be trying to ridicule someone else for same..
Also, quite a few of your posts accuse others of being turned on by bad news, getting hardons for misery etc. - are you sure you don't have some sort of issue?

mike8634 wrote: »

People who have had the virus already shouldnt have any restrictions

Let restaurants etc open for people who had Covid

Is this with proof of having been infected/vaccinated, like has been proposed for travel etc? I can see some people losing the plot over that one.

Ficheall wrote: »

Did you flex as you posted that?

Yes under the changing room downlighting I was looking sick

Eod100 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-government-may-impose-full-level-5-restrictions-due-to-concern-at-number-of-hospitalisations-1.4446673?mode=amp&localLinksEnabled=false

Headline: Government may impose full level 5

Article:

Senior Government source says you couldn't rule it out.

The media love a good headline although its usual not the Irish Times with the dramatic/misleading headlines

Eod100 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-government-may-impose-full-level-5-restrictions-due-to-concern-at-number-of-hospitalisations-1.4446673?mode=amp&localLinksEnabled=false

I honestly think if they go down that route they should wait a week before making that decision.
Figures and numbers are all over the place at present. Nphet always want to go for the hardest of restrictions, yet even back in October after a week it was obvious they jumped too quickly into level 5 lockdown.