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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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  • #9722
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    There was a bit of upset here when I made the outrageous claim that Gemma supporters and the hard left are essentially two cheeks of the same arse. Two sets of largely unemployable, bitter, and mostly deeply, deeply unhappy people. Indeed there is a large cross over between people who would once have voted for PBP etc in the water charges days who joined the Gembots when they read about Murphy et al's attitudes to immigration.

    On a meme group on Facebook of which I'm a member a user shared a FB post from an Irish left head the ball on Christmas (he leads a rather wacky group of nerds called the Connolly Youth Movement and frequently uses his FB to threaten assassinations and executions of establishment figures all the way down to civil servants)
    Santa is a class enemy who raises the expectation of children by temporarily enriching them. This focuses on philanthropy instead of solidarity, this focuses on charity instead of the redistribution of wealth. A false prophet dressed in the colours of his sponsor, Coca Cola.

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    I saw another post by this lad where he ordered his acolytes to use Tinder solely for spreading Marxist propaganda.

    It is frankly hilarious that the left here take a moral high ground, or that they believe that their mob are any more a part of mainstream Irish society than the Anti Corruption Ireland crowd. Ranting about aspects of popular culture, threatening to execute members of the establishment and seize their homes, claiming that their movement is popular enough to see through a violent people's rebellion......it all reminds me of somebody else.

    About the only distinction between the two is that a far larger amount of the hard left side have 3rd level qualifications.

    Completely useless 3rd level qualifications that nobody respects, but 3rd level nonetheless :pac:


  • #9723
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Deshawn wrote: »
    I had soup and a sandwich for my lunch today. I have it most days especially in winter

    What did you have? Wild guinea fowl or perhaps duck à l'òrange?

    I had turkey and ham like I do every Christmas Day. Its nearly 2021. We should be better. Half bowl of soup and a slice of tomato on bread is unacceptable.
    Deshawn wrote: »

    Not to worry as they will all be receiving their own apartments with subsidised food vouchers in the new year.

    They'll be behind all of these patriots in the queue though for welfare. Your money. My money. Our money. These people have taken countless millions from the state.

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  • #9724
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    The Nal wrote: »
    I had turkey and ham like I do every Christmas Day. Its nearly 2021. We should be better. Half bowl of soup and a slice of tomato on bread is unacceptable.



    They'll be behind all of these patriots in the queue though for welfare. Your money. My money. Our money. These people have taken countless millions from the state.

    0_JS210846020.jpg

    Come one come all I say.
    Aren't we a rich country? All metrics say we are.
    A statue of Minister O'Gorman will be commissioned once he finally puts an end to dp and starts handing over the own door accommodation with full welfare rights as promised.

    As a kicker let's overturn the 27th amendment to really sweeten the deal

    Roll up roll up.


  • #9725
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Royalty indeed

    https://twitter.com/GrainneClose/status/1342822865276727297?s=19

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    a- You seem to for some reason believe a Twitter post, by some randomer who by her name does not live in a DP centre and by her attitude probably doesn't work in one either (probably doesn't work anywhere TBH but anyway)

    b- Let's assume it is real. Are you aware that in the Anglosphere there are different meals per day?

    Brekkie in the morning. Lunch perhaps around 1pm if the cooked dinner isn't due til 5 or 6.

    Grainne seems to be suggesting that the residents were given a small sandwich and a soup for their Christmas dinner.

    Do you have proof that this is the case, or that this wasn't merely to tide them over between brekkie and dinner, or that Grainne even has a mole inside the DP centre?

    You remind me of the type of person who believes the Pakistani security guard in work who tells him he is only in the job because racist Ireland refuses to recognise his heart surgery qualifications. :pac::pac::pac:


  • #9726
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    It’s better than the pope celebrating a mass in the Phoenix park, and we all know how the Catholic Church treated people in Ireland.

    “We know how the catholic church treated people in the past” is your justification for allowing the promotion and celebration of a religion in which :

    Their main prophet married a 9 year old
    People who drew cartoons of that prophet were massacred in france.
    Women are treated with as much agency and autonomy as a lamp
    Lgbt teachings in uk schools are firmly protested
    Gay people are thrown off buildings in some countries
    Childrens concerts are bombed in the name of islam.

    This “but the catholic church” is the most bad faith argument in favour of islam that could possibly be conceived.


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  • #9727
    slipperyox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    “We know how the catholic church treated people in the past” is your justification for allowing the promotion and celebration of a religion in which :

    Their main prophet married a 9 year old
    People who drew cartoons of that prophet were massacred in france.
    Women are treated with as much agency and autonomy as a lamp
    Lgbt teachings in uk schools are firmly protested
    Gay people are thrown off buildings in some countries
    Childrens concerts are bombed in the name of islam.

    This “but the catholic church” is the most bad faith argument in favour of islam that could possibly be conceived.

    Didn't the radical left in Trinity, recently stop this discussion (deplatform) Richard Dawkins?


  • #9728
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    a- You seem to for some reason believe a Twitter post, by some randomer who by her name does not live in a DP centre and by her attitude probably doesn't work in one either (probably doesn't work anywhere TBH but anyway)

    b- Let's assume it is real. Are you aware that in the Anglosphere there are different meals per day?

    Brekkie in the morning. Lunch perhaps around 1pm if the cooked dinner isn't due til 5 or 6.

    Grainne seems to be suggesting that the residents were given a small sandwich and a soup for their Christmas dinner.

    Do you have proof that this is the case, or that this wasn't merely to tide them over between brekkie and dinner, or that Grainne even has a mole inside the DP centre?

    You remind me of the type of person who believes the Pakistani security guard in work who tells him he is only in the job because racist Ireland refuses to recognise his heart surgery qualifications. :pac::pac::pac:

    The thing is the issues of conditions in direct provision are well established, you simply ignore them. You've been offered plenty of accounts and investigations into the conditions of direct provision.


  • #9729
    fantaiscool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭fantaiscool


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The thing is the issues of conditions in direct provision are well established, you simply ignore them. You've been offered plenty of accounts and investigations into the conditions of direct provision.


    Yep. These kinds of posters simply can't be objective. They have an agenda and will push it to the nth degree until they slip up and get banned.


  • #9730
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Well here's a wild one. How about a refill of soup and another sandwich when they're finished?

    FFS. If they won't give some bread and a glass of milk to the mother of a sick child, they're certainly not giving you seconds for your Christmas Day lunch of a tomato sandwich and a cup-a-soup.

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  • #9731
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,287 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    There was a bit of upset here when I made the outrageous claim that Gemma supporters and the hard left are essentially two cheeks of the same arse. Two sets of largely unemployable, bitter, and mostly deeply, deeply unhappy people. Indeed there is a large cross over between people who would once have voted for PBP etc in the water charges days who joined the Gembots when they read about Murphy et al's attitudes to immigration.

    On a meme group on Facebook of which I'm a member a user shared a FB post from an Irish left head the ball on Christmas (he leads a rather wacky group of nerds called the Connolly Youth Movement and frequently uses his FB to threaten assassinations and executions of establishment figures all the way down to civil servants)



    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    I saw another post by this lad where he ordered his acolytes to use Tinder solely for spreading Marxist propaganda.

    It is frankly hilarious that the left here take a moral high ground, or that they believe that their mob are any more a part of mainstream Irish society than the Anti Corruption Ireland crowd. Ranting about aspects of popular culture, threatening to execute members of the establishment and seize their homes, claiming that their movement is popular enough to see through a violent people's rebellion......it all reminds me of somebody else.

    About the only distinction between the two is that a far larger amount of the hard left side have 3rd level qualifications.

    Completely useless 3rd level qualifications that nobody respects, but 3rd level nonetheless :pac:

    does he go around harassing members of the public and the gardai and broadcasting it on the web?


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  • #9732
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    FFS. If they won't give some bread and a glass of milk to the mother of a sick child, they're certainly not giving you seconds for your Christmas Day lunch of a tomato sandwich and a cup-a-soup.

    Cup of soup.
    Cup-a-soup.

    Different


  • #9733
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    “We know how the catholic church treated people in the past” is your justification for allowing the promotion and celebration of a religion in which :

    Their main prophet married a 9 year old

    The mother of Jesus was a child when she decided yeah, becoming pregnant by an invisible spirit was grand. Was it Lot who let his children be raped rather than show poor hospitality to guests who were, apparently, angels? Mad, disgraceful stuff altogether in most of those "holy" books.
    People who drew cartoons of that prophet were massacred in france.

    People working in hospitals and clinics have been shot at and bombed by Christians - hell, patients in hospitals have been shot by Christians - on this island! Kids playing football on a beach have been bombed by Jews.
    Women are treated with as much agency and autonomy as a lamp

    Remind me, who ran the Magdalene Laundries - where you could be imprisoned and made work for no pay (I believe there's a word for that?) because you were "in danger of becoming a fallen woman", or were "too pretty."
    Lgbt teachings in uk schools are firmly protested

    I believe you call that free speech. Don't agree with it (protesting teaching children in an age-appropriate fashion about human sexuality) myself, but there you go. In Ireland, the same thing is protested by the (Christian) religious right, so...
    Gay people are thrown off buildings in some countries

    And some of our asylum seekers are here because they're LGBT and are persecuted - by Christians - in their own countries.Happened in Ireland, too. Still does.
    Childrens concerts are bombed in the name of islam.

    "You ain't no Muslim, bruv." Like, seriously? All Muslims are deranged fanatics, because a tiny, tiny minority are? Are all Christians dangerous fanatics too, because the Westboro Church exists, or because a member of the Army of God bombed an Olympic stadium?!

    And if we're talking children, well, there's 796 of them buried in a septic tank in tune, that we'll be reading about shortly.
    This “but the catholic church” is the most bad faith argument in favour of islam that could possibly be conceived.

    Yeah, but nobody is actually making that argument, though. That's just in your head.

    As far as I'm concerned, worship whatever sky-fairy you want, I don't care, as long as it doesn't impact on me or mine. If that means the Christian World Meeting of Families or an Eid celebration in Croke Park, grand, let them at it.

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  • #9734
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    There was a bit of upset here when I made the outrageous claim that Gemma supporters and the hard left are essentially two cheeks of the same arse. Two sets of largely unemployable, bitter, and mostly deeply, deeply unhappy people. Indeed there is a large cross over between people who would once have voted for PBP etc in the water charges days who joined the Gembots when they read about Murphy et al's attitudes to immigration.

    On a meme group on Facebook of which I'm a member a user shared a FB post from an Irish left head the ball on Christmas (he leads a rather wacky group of nerds called the Connolly Youth Movement and frequently uses his FB to threaten assassinations and executions of establishment figures all the way down to civil servants)


    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    I saw another post by this lad where he ordered his acolytes to use Tinder solely for spreading Marxist propaganda.

    It is frankly hilarious that the left here take a moral high ground, or that they believe that their mob are any more a part of mainstream Irish society than the Anti Corruption Ireland crowd. Ranting about aspects of popular culture, threatening to execute members of the establishment and seize their homes, claiming that their movement is popular enough to see through a violent people's rebellion......it all reminds me of somebody else.

    About the only distinction between the two is that a far larger amount of the hard left side have 3rd level qualifications.

    Completely useless 3rd level qualifications that nobody respects, but 3rd level nonetheless :pac:
    Just looked up the CYM, they don't even veil it with 'socialism' theyre full blown communists and Facebook is full of posts alleging every soviet failure is a CIA conspiracy.

    These people are actually just as, if not more nuts than Gemma etc..


  • #9735
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Just looked up the CYM, they don't even veil it with 'socialism' theyre full blown communists and Facebook is full of posts alleging every soviet failure is a CIA conspiracy.

    These people are actually just as, if not more nuts than Gemma etc..

    All four or five of them can have a meeting in a phonebox, and spout extreme left wing ****e, but no, no they're not anywhere near as nuts as Gemma and Dee. They don't (to my knowledge) spread bull**** about 5G, chemtrails, vaccines, "Covid is a conspiracy to get us all to just obey the government."

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  • #9736
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    All four or five of them can have a meeting in a phonebox, and spout extreme left wing ****e, but no, no they're not anywhere near as nuts as Gemma and Dee. They don't (to my knowledge) spread bull**** about 5G, chemtrails, vaccines, "Covid is a conspiracy to get us all to just obey the government."

    Because "America has brainwashed us all to hate communism" "Ireland needs to ban American tourism and impoverish rural Ireland so they can see the light of communism" " close down the meat factories and install communism" "fine geal are facsists out to oppress the poor for their American overlords" "we should be defending ultras (football hooligans) groups as theyre a working class army to help with the revolution" is so much better.

    Its nuts, its classist hate crime against those who've done well, theyre advocating for violence against the middle and upper echelons of society and blaming America or the Torys for everything. Inciting violence, praising dictators like Stalin and Castro.

    Don't get me wrong, Gemma and dee are nuts but I can't recall off the top of my head when either of them praised the works of Adolf hitler by name, this crowd proudly espouse the works of Stalin, a more brutal dictator with a higher kill count.


  • #9737
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,287 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Just looked up the CYM, they don't even veil it with 'socialism' theyre full blown communists and Facebook is full of posts alleging every soviet failure is a CIA conspiracy.

    These people are actually just as, if not more nuts than Gemma etc..

    that they style themselves the Connolly Youth Movement should be a pretty broad clue as to their beliefs. But they are a youth movement and young people tend to have pretty strong beliefs until they get a bang of the real world. the likes of Gemma have no such excuse. Plus the CYM don't go around harassing people on camera nor do they believe anything half as nutty as Gemma so I don't see the comparison between them.


  • #9738
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Cup of soup.
    Cup-a-soup.

    Different

    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

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  • #9739
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

    the picture clearly shows actual vegetable soup, not water and powder in a cup. It wasn't a bad meal, and sure if they don't like it they can go home to where a gormless government doesn't spend billions giving them everything under the sun.


  • #9740
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

    Like in a canteen? Large tubs of commercial size soup.

    Outrageous


  • #9741
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that they style themselves the Connolly Youth Movement should be a pretty broad clue as to their beliefs. But they are a youth movement and young people tend to have pretty strong beliefs until they get a bang of the real world. the likes of Gemma have no such excuse. Plus the CYM don't go around harassing people on camera nor do they believe anything half as nutty as Gemma so I don't see the comparison between them.

    Im sure their members regularly harass people while protesting, just under the antifa banner instead.

    IMO believing in communism, or that its a viable system is way more nuts than 5G or antivaxx stuff, both of which are pretty high up on the scales of stupid things to believe in. But we'll have to agree to disagree as I'd imagine you don't see it as the horror show of humanity that I do.


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  • #9742
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,287 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Im sure their members regularly harass people while protesting, just under the antifa banner instead.

    Did you have to hire a crane to move those massive goalposts?
    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    IMO believing in communism, or that its a viable system is way more nuts than 5G or antivaxx stuff, both of which are pretty high up on the scales of stupid things to believe in. But we'll have to agree to disagree as I'd imagine you don't see it as the horror show of humanity that I do.

    they're more marxist than communist.


  • #9743
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Because "America has brainwashed us all to hate communism" "Ireland needs to ban American tourism and impoverish rural Ireland so they can see the light of communism" " close down the meat factories and install communism" "fine geal are facsists out to oppress the poor for their American overlords" "we should be defending ultras (football hooligans) groups as theyre a working class army to help with the revolution" is so much better.

    Its nuts, its classist hate crime against those who've done well, theyre advocating for violence against the middle and upper echelons of society and blaming America or the Torys for everything. Inciting violence, praising dictators like Stalin and Castro.

    Don't get me wrong, Gemma and dee are nuts but I can't recall off the top of my head when either of them praised the works of Adolf hitler by name, this crowd proudly espouse the works of Stalin, a more brutal dictator with a higher kill count.

    It's pretty clear that tangible consequences from Gemma and Co are far more apparent than that of a group that most people never heard of until now. She targeted Children because they weren't white which cause a global pile on from white supremacists globally. She drove a couple out of the country because they were mixed race in a lidl ad.


  • #9744
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭Odelay


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

    I think you’re getting very worked up over a simple soup and sandwich lunch meal. I doubt it was the only thing on the menu, but that won’t suit some people’s agenda.


  • #9745
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Odelay wrote: »
    I think you’re getting very worked up over a simple soup and sandwich lunch meal. I doubt it was the only thing on the menu, but that won’t suit some people’s agenda.

    "Menu" - lol, good one!

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  • #9746
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Odelay wrote: »
    I think you’re getting very worked up over a simple soup and sandwich lunch meal. I doubt it was the only thing on the menu, but that won’t suit some people’s agenda.

    There is no menu. They don't get to choose.
    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    “We know how the catholic church treated people in the past” is your justification for allowing the promotion and celebration of a religion in which :

    Their main prophet married a 9 year old
    People who drew cartoons of that prophet were massacred in france.
    Women are treated with as much agency and autonomy as a lamp
    Lgbt teachings in uk schools are firmly protested
    Gay people are thrown off buildings in some countries
    Childrens concerts are bombed in the name of islam.

    This “but the catholic church” is the most bad faith argument in favour of islam that could possibly be conceived.


    Fishing boats with children on board bombed in the name of Ireland. How can you promote and celebrate Ireland when people bombed fishing boats with children on board for Ireland?

    That's how the 'guilt by association' tactic works, right?


  • #9747
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    a- You seem to for some reason believe a Twitter post, by some randomer who by her name does not live in a DP centre and by her attitude probably doesn't work in one either (probably doesn't work anywhere TBH but anyway)

    b- Let's assume it is real. Are you aware that in the Anglosphere there are different meals per day?

    Brekkie in the morning. Lunch perhaps around 1pm if the cooked dinner isn't due til 5 or 6.

    Grainne seems to be suggesting that the residents were given a small sandwich and a soup for their Christmas dinner.

    Do you have proof that this is the case, or that this wasn't merely to tide them over between brekkie and dinner, or that Grainne even has a mole inside the DP centre?

    You remind me of the type of person who believes the Pakistani security guard in work who tells him he is only in the job because racist Ireland refuses to recognise his heart surgery qualifications. :pac::pac::pac:
    Where exactly did Grainne suggest that this was their Christmas dinner? She specifically referred to lunch in her tweet.

    You're right that she doesn't work in DP or live in DP, because those people are under threats from their employer/host NOT to share photos on social media, so they have to go through 3rd parties. You'd wonder what they are afraid of.


  • #9748
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    There is no menu. They don't get to choose.




    Fishing boats with children on board bombed in the name of Ireland. How can you promote and celebrate Ireland when people bombed fishing boats with children on board for Ireland?

    That's how the 'guilt by association' tactic works, right?

    Oh, I already replied to all of Eric's Islamophobic points on that post, but he had no comeback, so he started talking about all those times the Connolly Youth Movement harassed all those people with livestreamed in-your-face harassment...

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  • #9749
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,098 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Oh my - you mean they'll get a total of two slices of tomato?

    They'll eat like kings tonight for sure.

    Should anyone who rocks up in this country be "eating like a king"?

    There are a lot of Irish people who aren't eating like kings.


  • #9750
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Should anyone who rocks up in this country be "eating like a king"?

    There are a lot of Irish people who aren't eating like kings.

    DJ was telling us how they're treated like royalty in Direct Provision.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115674303


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  • #9751
    dasdog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭dasdog


    If anyone wants a giggle aciquestion has posted a few videos of Dee's convoy to the North this afternoon. As someone pointed out - it's like a skit from Paths to Freedom.

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