Brexit discussion thread XIII (Please read OP before posting)

landofthetree · 24-12-2020 04:34PM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

750k in Spain. Second only to Australia. 250k is France, same amount as Canada/NZ etc

In 2017, 69% of British citizens living in the EU lived in Spain (37%), France (19%) or Germany (12%). The largest portion, 293,500, lived in Spain

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/livingabroad/april2018#where-are-british-citizens-living-in-the-eu

Hurrache · 24-12-2020 04:35PM

The loss of recognition of British professional qualifications and financial passporting is a huge loss for them, as too is the single energy market.

tanko · 24-12-2020 04:38PM

Now for the sprouts.
Over to you Laura.

Just about sums the whole thing up.

Professor Moriarty · 24-12-2020 04:41PM

Fish is the biggest achievement according to Johnson.

VinLieger · 24-12-2020 04:42PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Fish is the biggest achievement according to Johnson.

Wave the flag harder!!!! "RULE BRITTANIA....."

landofthetree · 24-12-2020 04:42PM

Hurrache wrote: »

The loss of recognition of British professional qualifications and financial passporting is a huge loss for them, as too is the single energy market.

Engineers wont.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Accord

PokeHerKing · 24-12-2020 04:43PM

landofthetree wrote: »

In 2017, 69% of British citizens living in the EU lived in Spain (37%), France (19%) or Germany (12%). The largest portion, 293,500, lived in Spain

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/livingabroad/april2018#where-are-british-citizens-living-in-the-eu

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/brits_abroad/html/default.stm

Choosehowevr. · 24-12-2020 04:43PM

landofthetree wrote: »

How many British go live in the EU countries? A sizeable number but they prefer Auz,Canada,NZ etc.

Just like the Irish.

Spain

Hurrache · 24-12-2020 04:44PM

Seems to be a consensus from UK analysts that it's not a great deal, not that it could even be one anyway, and Johnson is just waffling with little factual accuracy.

uptherebels · 24-12-2020 04:44PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Engineers wont.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Accord

Engineering technologist.
Not engineers

Tzardine · 24-12-2020 04:46PM

Do we have any clarification on how online purchases from the UK will be affected? Will there be extra taxes or customs fees added ?

An Ciarraioch · 24-12-2020 04:46PM

https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1342133525957505026

Choosehowevr. · 24-12-2020 04:48PM

Too much talk about fish

Tzardine · 24-12-2020 04:49PM

I heard on Pat Kenny that HARRODS puts more into the British economy that the whole fishing industry.

So much focus on such a comparatively small industry.

Beechwoodspark · 24-12-2020 04:51PM

Tzardine wrote: »

I heard on Pat Kenny that HARRODS puts more into the British economy that the whole fishing industry.

So much focus on such a comparatively small industry.

Diversion tactics

landofthetree · 24-12-2020 04:52PM

wpd wrote: »

am i missing something here
so the UK must maintain the same standards as the EU in order to have free trade access to EU market however they no longer
have to pay to the EU gravy train, they can control migration from other EU countries.
they can do trade deals with rest of world as long as it is inline with EU trade deals and they have slightly restricted EU access to fish in their waters.
SO tell me what has the UK lost in real terms that is detrimental to them, I just cant see what it is???

Plus they can now put zero tariffs on pretty much everything they dont manufacturer.

They are no long forced to buy expensive EU imports so lazy Europeans can keep their jobs.

landofthetree · 24-12-2020 05:00PM

correct horse battery staple wrote: »

Can you give an example of the evil eu forcing British companies buy European?

Poor John and Mary from Liverpool forced to buy bmw at gunpoint

EU tariffs on shoes. All to protect the Italian shoe manufacturers.

They UK makes feck all shoes these days bar handmade shoes for the very rich.

"Duties affecting leather shoe imports worth hundreds of millions of euros per year have been in place since 2006. They had been set at 16.5 percent and 10 percent for China and Vietnam respectively, to counter what the EU said was illegal market dumping by the two countries' exporters."

ElJeffe · 24-12-2020 05:01PM

I expect a lot of spin from all sides but make no mistake about it nothing good will come from Brexit for this country.

Professor Moriarty · 24-12-2020 05:03PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Plus they can now put zero tariffs on pretty much everything they dont manufacturer.

They are no long forced to buy expensive EU imports so lazy Europeans can keep their jobs.

According to a book written by the current British Trade Secretary, the current Home Secretary and the current Foreign Secretary, "too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work" and are "among the worst idlers in the world".

reforger · 24-12-2020 05:06PM

Afaik the shoe tariff expired in March 2011.

landofthetree · 24-12-2020 05:06PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

According to a book written by the current British Trade Secretary, the current Home Secretary and the current Foreign Secretary, "too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work" and are "among the worst idlers in the world".

30% of Italians aged 18-30 have never held a full time job ffs.

The EU project is all about protectionism.

Professor Moriarty · 24-12-2020 05:09PM

landofthetree wrote: »

30% of Italians aged 18-30 have never held a full time job ffs.

Sure. But Truss, Raab and Patel, core members of the British government, believe the British people to be idle and avoid hard work. Their words, not mine. So your point about "lazy" EU workers is rather compromised.

listermint · 24-12-2020 05:14PM

landofthetree wrote: »

EU tariffs on shoes. All to protect the Italian shoe manufacturers.

They UK makes feck all shoes these days bar handmade shoes for the very rich.

"Duties affecting leather shoe imports worth hundreds of millions of euros per year have been in place since 2006. They had been set at 16.5 percent and 10 percent for China and Vietnam respectively, to counter what the EU said was illegal market dumping by the two countries' exporters."

We did say the thread will be full is spin and nonsense for the next few weeks. It's started early.

Oh and the EU is breaking up too and all the other countries will see how good the UK has it..

Banging the drum . On one page they say the UK can set whatever tariffs they like now to protect the UK on the other page gives out about the EU setting it's tariffs to protect the EU.

Yum yum this irony.. yum

CelticRambler · 24-12-2020 05:26PM

landofthetree wrote: »

They are no long forced to buy expensive EU imports so lazy Europeans can keep their jobs.

Are these the same lazy Europeans who come to England to pick fruit & veg, and work in the NHS, because lazy Brits can't be bothered? :rolleyes:

Catching up with this afternoon's developments and as expected, Switzerland-light: Britain becomes a de facto rule-taker, most of the costs and restrictions and few of the benefits of EU membership, especially for anyone other than British shopkeepers. Decades of future negotiations ahead, but conveniently re-branded as the tweaking of an existing arrangement so that Johnson can brag about getting a deal done in "record time".

I think it says a lot more about Johnson's record-breaking deal that the EU press office had all its infographics ready to go within minutes of the press conference. One could almost believe that they knew well in advance exactly how this would all work out.

Still waiting to hear what major concessions the EU has offered, because all I'm seeing so far are UK concessions left, right and centre.

road_high · 24-12-2020 05:29PM

Glad a deals been done. From an Irish POV this is good as we need tariff free access to the U.K. and vice versa. Expect possibly a slight trade boost in the new year as orders that businesses have held back on due to the uncertainty come through

BlitzKrieg · 24-12-2020 05:30PM

Nigel Farage is now speaking to Sky News.
The former Brexit Party leader said that the deal represents progress and Britain is far better off than five years ago. He also welcomed the news on defence and foreign policy and adds that he would vote for the deal

Nigel you dont get a vote, you're not an elected official. Stop playing at tomcat trying to make yourself bigger then you are.

Strazdas · 24-12-2020 05:32PM

landofthetree wrote: »

30% of Italians aged 18-30 have never held a full time job ffs.

The EU project is all about protectionism.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. Their economy has been a basket case for decades and their education system is believed to be poor and chronically underfunded - not suited to turning out a strong workforce. It's similar to where Ireland was in the 1980s.

PokeHerKing · 24-12-2020 05:38PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Nigel you dont get a vote, you're not an elected official. Stop playing at tomcat trying to make yourself bigger then you are.

I'm loathe to defend Farage but he was asked 'would you vote for it'. To which he said he would, provisionally, until he's read the text etc.

VinLieger · 24-12-2020 05:43PM

correct horse battery staple wrote: »

Notice how in one post there is a complaint about Italian unemployment and in other post complaining about tariffs on Italian shoes there to protect employment in Italy

It’s like brexit switches off critical thinking

Are you inferring brexit supporters are capable of extraordinary levels of cognitive dissonance?

landofthetree · 24-12-2020 05:45PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

Are these the same lazy Europeans who come to England to pick fruit & veg, and work in the NHS, because lazy Brits can't be bothered? :rolleyes:

Catching up with this afternoon's developments and as expected, Switzerland-light: Britain becomes a de facto rule-taker, most of the costs and restrictions and few of the benefits of EU membership, especially for anyone other than British shopkeepers. Decades of future negotiations ahead, but conveniently re-branded as the tweaking of an existing arrangement so that Johnson can brag about getting a deal done in "record time".

I think it says a lot more about Johnson's record-breaking deal that the EU press office had all its infographics ready to go within minutes of the press conference. One could almost believe that they knew well in advance exactly how this would all work out.

Still waiting to hear what major concessions the EU has offered, because all I'm seeing so far are UK concessions left, right and centre.

Without doubt London and the UK has become the dumping ground for cheap EU labour as southern Europe continues to fail under the Euro.

Brexit discussion thread XIII (Please read OP before posting)

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