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The Vaccine

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  • #1952
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    I have asked you before and I'll ask again. Can you show me one of these cases... Show me an example of someone getting hit by a car who was declared dead of covid

    Yes my friend down in Waterford was shown on the news as having died from Covid. She had pervasive learning disorder, suffered from epilepsy all her life and her parents were told she would be doing great if she made it to 15. She died during the height of the "pandemic". Her parents said she just died in her sleep and had nothing to do with Covid. if you want to PM me and I will send you on news articles.


  • #1953
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    faceman wrote: »
    There’s no way it’d be called a covid passport. Marketing would never approve.

    I lived in a country in the 90’s that required a physical health passport for travel. You had to prove inoculation against yellow fever. It’s since been done away with (unless you’re travelling from a country with high incident rates)

    It was a necessary step and was removed when there was no need.

    It wasn’t called yellow fever passport. It had a very sexy name:

    “International Certificate of Vaccination”

    It’s a non story nowadays. No microchips were planted in my body. And no one bats an eyelid to it. Despite Africa being riddled with viruses and illness, no other diseases were added it to. Yellow fever represented the largest avoidable risk to the general public

    I don’t see how covid is any different

    You can call it whatever you like but they are going to have no travel without the vaccination and they are going to extend it to work and education, and possibly social welfare.


  • #1954
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,958 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    You can call it whatever you like but they are going to have no travel without the vaccination and they are going to extend it to work and education, and possibly social welfare.

    You make these bold claims without the slightest shred of evidence.


  • #1955
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You make these bold claims without the slightest shred of evidence.

    Quantas said last week they were going to enforce "No vaccine no Travel"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTAaD-YS9B8

    "an electronic version of it"


  • #1956
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Quantas said last week they were going to enforce "No vaccine no Travel"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTAaD-YS9B8

    "an electronic version of it"

    One airline saying they will refuse passengers is not a ban on travel. That is just one of a million transport companies in the world.


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  • #1957
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    You can call it whatever you like but they are going to have no travel without the vaccination and they are going to extend it to work and education, and possibly social welfare.

    Firstly that's far from definite in relation to travel, more than likely it'll vary by country. Secondly if a person has a legitimate reason to not get the vaccine, there would be exemptions. It's a tad entitled to assume you have a right to travel to a country if you potentially pose an unnecessary health risk.

    In relation to work, that most likely would only apply if you work with at risk groups. Schools should have had required vaccines for years tbh. Most creches already do it.


  • #1958
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    One airline saying they will refuse passengers is not a ban on travel. That is just one of a million travel companies in the world.

    Watch them all follow suit.

    Come down on campus. You have Commisars, I mean student union members telling people to social distance and wear masks. I asked them who made them sherrif and I had note that I did not have to wear a mask under the exemptions. Then I told them to fupp off.


  • #1959
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    One airline saying they will refuse passengers is not a ban on travel. That is just one of a million transport companies in the world.

    That is right its one airline right now and watch that grow. It amounts to "no passport no travel". Aparts from sailing I dont know how to drive to australia. No body is going to sail to australia for tourism purposes. The good news is people with significant value wont have to quarantine. So one law for thee and one law for me.


  • #1960
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    That is right its one airline right now and watch that grow. It amounts to "no passport no travel". Aparts from sailing I dont know how to drive to australia. No body is going to sail to australia for tourism purposes. The good news is people with significant value wont have to quarantine. So one law for thee and one law for me.

    Mind clarifying on what you think the vaccine does?


  • #1961
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Mind clarifying on what you think the vaccine does?

    Nothing good. Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them.


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  • #1962
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Nothing good. Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them.

    Okay, so a vague claim. Well the most recent prominent vaccine was the hpv vaccine which looks likely to eliminate a substantial number of cervical cancers. That's pretty great. Do you think the mmr vaccine is doing no good?


  • #1963
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,958 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Quantas said last week they were going to enforce "No vaccine no Travel"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTAaD-YS9B8

    "an electronic version of it"

    That's a private company thier house thier rules.


  • #1964
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,958 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Nothing good. Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them.

    Polio victims would beg to differ.


  • #1965
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    That's a private company thier house thier rules.

    Watch the full video, "we are working with governments". The majority of companies will follow suit.


  • #1966
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Nothing good. Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them.
    Please detail what you mean by this.

    I think that this is just another vague empty statement that you aren't able to substantiate or back up.


    Also, how do you explain the lack of smallpox?


  • #1967
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Polio victims would beg to differ.

    What about Gardasil, pandemrix and others?


  • #1968
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,958 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Watch the full video, "we are working with governments". The majority of companies will follow suit.

    Could mean a million things.


  • #1969
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,676 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    You can call it whatever you like but they are going to have no travel without the vaccination and they are going to extend it to work and education, and possibly social welfare.

    Nonsense. They couldn’t even make the PSC mandatory and you think they’ll make a covid health card mandatory for all those things.

    Best of luck with that conspiracy theory :pac:


  • #1970
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,958 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    What about Gardasil, pandemrix and others?

    What about them

    You said

    "Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them."

    Polio vaccine proves that you are wrong.


  • #1971
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Please detail what you mean by this.

    I think that this is just another vague empty statement that you aren't able to substantiate or back up.


    Also, how do you explain the lack of smallpox?

    Not every vaccine is made the same way. I would be concerned with the adjuvants used. The vaccines then arent the same as the vaccines used now.


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  • #1972
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What about them

    You said

    "Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them."

    Polio vaccine proves that you are wrong.
    And smallpox.
    And measles, mumps and rubella.
    And many others.

    I think we're just seeing another person who doesn't know anything about vaccines.


  • #1973
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Nothing good. Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them.

    Any idea why there are no cases of polio any more?


  • #1974
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I would be concerned with the adjuvants used.
    Why? Which ones?
    What is your concern?


  • #1975
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Watch them all follow suit.

    Come down on campus. You have Commisars, I mean student union members telling people to social distance and wear masks. I asked them who made them sherrif and I had note that I did not have to wear a mask under the exemptions. Then I told them to fupp off.
    And then the whole bus clapped, right?


  • #1976
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What about them

    You said

    "Previous vaccine should tell you no good comes of them."

    Polio vaccine proves that you are wrong.

    Regret and Gardasil, that says loads. CMO said "well it was within the numbers that were expected" on a TV3 interview. WTF They knew it would happen?
    Pandemrix and narcolepsy..... now the NHS said they want to limit the time against complaints and have indemnified the vaccine companies and themselves. Who buys anything without a warranty?


  • #1977
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    King Mob wrote: »
    And then the whole bus clapped, right?

    No I was on my own and the college was deserted. Student unions on a power trip.


  • #1978
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Not every vaccine is made the same way. I would be concerned with the adjuvants used. The vaccines then arent the same as the vaccines used now.

    What concerns do you actually have and what do you know about adjuvants or is this another word you learnt in college this week like you learned about terragrippers the other week?


  • #1979
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    No I was on my own and the college was deserted. Student unions on a power trip.

    Are they in on the conspiracy?


  • #1980
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    No I was on my own and the college was deserted. Student unions on a power trip.
    Mm hmm. I'm sure that really happened.

    Which adjuvants are you concerned about? Why are you concerned? What concerns do you have?


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  • #1981
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why? Which ones?
    What is your concern?

    powdered aluminium, Mercury (Thimiserol)
    They are poisonous and they want to inject it into my muscle?


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