The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

NW_10 wrote: »

The GAA will never split Dublin but what they can do is slash development funds for Dublin. Dubs can pick up the tab themselves. There also needs to caps on intercounty spending (excluding travel expenses), limits on the size of backroom teams, and wage caps for those backroom staff. Leinster semi-finals and final to be played in Portlaoise or Nowlan Park. All of Dublin's home games to be played in Parnell Park. Only let them in to Croke Park for All-Ireland semi-finals and final.

The GAA will do whatever their bottom line tells them to do.

They are ruled by the desire for money and they don’t hide it.

NW_10 wrote: »

The GAA will never split Dublin but what they can do is slash development funds for Dublin. Dubs can pick up the tab themselves. There also needs to caps on intercounty spending (excluding travel expenses), limits on the size of backroom teams, and wage caps for those backroom staff. Leinster semi-finals and final to be played in Portlaoise or Nowlan Park. All of Dublin's home games to be played in Parnell Park. Only let them in to Croke Park for All-Ireland semi-finals and final.

Now, if you had bothered to go back through the thread you would see that the initial funding exercise ended in 2017. Dublin are now back in line with other counties funding, and below quite a few. Again look back through thread to see evidence. The travel expenses is an interesting one, the GAAs biggest problem here is the creative submitting of expenses that has taken place in the past, as identified several ex inter county players stating they would car pool are submit 4-5 expense claims, one for each member of the squad in the car.

ArielAtom wrote: »

Now, if you had bothered to go back through the thread you would see that the initial funding exercise ended in 2017. Dublin are now back in line with other counties funding, and below quite a few

Still lying. Even After being corrected on this exact point on tge Leinster football is dead thread.

Posters- Thread carefully.

NW_10 wrote: »

The GAA will never split Dublin but what they can do is slash development funds for Dublin. Dubs can pick up the tab themselves. There also needs to caps on intercounty spending (excluding travel expenses), limits on the size of backroom teams, and wage caps for those backroom staff. Leinster semi-finals and final to be played in Portlaoise or Nowlan Park. All of Dublin's home games to be played in Parnell Park. Only let them in to Croke Park for All-Ireland semi-finals and final.

I wouldnt slash dublins development funding but would reduce it
What kind of cap do you put on inter county spending. How much do you limit the size of back room teams. The only people supposedly being paid are the physios etc. How do you cap what they get when its the service they provide they get paid. Theyre not full time staff in a job,
Dublin cant and shouldnt play all their home games in Parnell Park. Where are you replacing all that income for the sport with moving Dublin games to a ground that only holds 14000 or so especially when hill 16 alone in Croker holds more people?

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No point in doing a half assed job. Splitting into its administrative districts. Then you split Dublin City area in two North and South of the Liffy. This would give five counties with less populations of between 2-300k

That goes against so much of what GAA is about. Where is the identity?
You realise these admin areas would do nothing for the GAA. GAA is all about identity. There is no ties for people. There isnt enough support for 4 additional teams within Dublin at inter county level.

I would have as well. But there is no other effective. Method of reducing the effect and making the All Ireland competition fairly competitive again. I am not sure if splitting it in two would do that without seriously limiting. GAA funding

dublins reign wont last and what exactly is competitive anyway?

jmayo wrote: »

And when are the rest of us going to get comparable funding might be the gripe ?

BTW I don't see anything changing until it is 8 to 10 in a row and the viewers for finals are down at maybe 800,000 and there are noticable empty seats at the final.
I was going to say third Sunday in Sept but fecking hell god knows when finals will be in future.

People often ask why for example county boards in Leinster agree to play Dublin in Croker.
It is always about money and self preservation.

They know they can still get say more than 30,000 Dubs into Croker and half of that is better than half of 20,000 or less into a ground somewhere in their own county.

Also if any of the counties raises splitting Dublin then the spector of amalgamating their own counties might come into focus.

The GAA will only act when the ar** totally falls out of it and by then the damage may be irreparable.

BTW it is not just GAA that have issues I believe.
Leinster might now be seen as nearly guaranteed winners of the Pro14 and that is not good either.

Leinster in pro14 is a completely different issue and irrelevant to this discussion. Dublin shouldnt be split. Its an inter county competition not anything else. If a split is to happen then changes must be made nationwide so weaker counties should combine and other counties be split as well.

ArielAtom wrote: »

Now, if you had bothered to go back through the thread you would see that the initial funding exercise ended in 2017. Dublin are now back in line with other counties funding, and below quite a few. Again look back through thread to see evidence. The travel expenses is an interesting one, the GAAs biggest problem here is the creative submitting of expenses that has taken place in the past, as identified several ex inter county players stating they would car pool are submit 4-5 expense claims, one for each member of the squad in the car.

That isnt that creative submitting of expenses. It happens in all areas for life.
Nothing unusual/different about that happening.

NW_10 wrote: »

The GAA will never split Dublin but what they can do is slash development funds for Dublin. Dubs can pick up the tab themselves. There also needs to caps on intercounty spending (excluding travel expenses), limits on the size of backroom teams, and wage caps for those backroom staff. Leinster semi-finals and final to be played in Portlaoise or Nowlan Park. All of Dublin's home games to be played in Parnell Park. Only let them in to Croke Park for All-Ireland semi-finals and final.

Good luck telling the rest of Leinster they can’t go to Croke park for a Leinster final

NW_10 wrote: »

Dublin should expect to play their home games in Parnell Park. It's their home ground. I'm sure they can ask AIG for a loan to build a new stadium if they want.

There is zero point in Dublin playing in Parnell Park. It hasnt been their home ground in years.
There is little good for them to play there when they would sell it out for games several times over. Why is letting less people see games a good thing?
Kildare and Meath need help to develop their grounds to a higher standard that would help get Dublin(and others) to play them there in league and championship but Dublin going back to a stadium with under 15000 capacity shouldnt happen

NW_10 wrote: »

I'm sure they won't mind having to play Dublin at a neutral ground.

Yeah they keep voting for exactly that.......

NW_10 wrote: »

So let them go and raise funds for a new stadium. They shouldn't be allowed to use it as a home ground. What part of this is so hard for you to understand?

The counties that need a stadium are Kildare, Meath. Dublin dont need one. If some of the bigger counties and counties that should be beating Dublin had better quality and bigger grounds then you could have more games for Dublin to play outside CP but thats not the case.
Leinster council keep the income from Leinster championship games to reinvest in the sport. Dublin not playing in Croke Park losses millions right now especially when all the next biggest stadiums in the province are 4 times smaller than Croke Park.
A stadium being built for Dublin to use isnt the answer. Get other venues more up to scratch.

NW_10 wrote: »

You just said Parnell Park is too small so they obviously do need a new ground. They shouldn't be allowed to Croke Park as their home ground. Slash Dublin's funding and Leinster will have enough money to invest in the game.

Parnell Park is too small for Dublins footballers. It doesnt make sense to build a new ground just for that teams games. It wouldnt have any other use. It would be a waste of money when GAA need to assist other counties far more. What funding exactly should be slashed?
Development money goes towards getting kids interested in the gaelic and hurling. Slashing that money is ridiculous as it doesnt impact the senior inter county team that much.

NW_10 wrote: »

Still doesn't make up for the 11 years of financial doping. The travel expenses isn't an interesting one. The GAA can audit all they like and they'll find a lot of counties are spending a huge sum on travel expenses for their players.

As has been stated before, your understanding of financial doping is misunderstood. As has been stated this funding program ended in 2017. What is you answer besides stating the same point over and over? Expenses that are not real could be called something else. But if it makes up a large amount of a counties expenditure it should be removed.

NW_10 wrote: »

Kids in other counties will lose interest the longer this goes on and Dublin can fund their own development.

No they wont. If that was the case in GAA and across all sports then there wouldnt be any GAA in wicklow considering how poor their inter county side is. Or in rugby for years when Connacht were very poor. Or soccer. or any sport.

NW_10 wrote: »

Yes, they will.

You say that so confidently.
If that was the case you'd have examples where interest has completely died off. and could show that people werent playing any more. Are playing numbers down in any of these counties in Leinster and its shown that Dublin winning is the reason.

Enquiring wrote: »

When did it stop?

Still waiting on a proper and detailed answer on how you propose to fairly allocate funding. Would be nice if you could answer that one....