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Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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  • #2522
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    How anyone doesn't know that that account is pure parody is a truly scary thing.


  • #2523
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Tony EH wrote: »
    How anyone doesn't know that that account is pure parody is a truly scary thing.

    As pointed out above, while the account is parody the articles it posts are real.


  • #2524
    JPCN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    Morathi wrote: »
    Reminds me of back in the day, Ben Kingsley would ask people to call him Sir, after he got his knighthood (an anachronism that should be shelved imo). I think he's since stopped and apologised.

    It's fiercely arrogant, and shows quite a bit of insecurity imo.

    I think crews referred to him as Sir King Bensley.


  • #2525
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    Wait, is it now considered “woke” for those with doctorates be referred to as doctor?

    I don't think it's considered woke, but as was pointed out earlier, there is the unwritten rule that the title is reserved for MDs and not academics in other disciplines. The one I find is that this so called woke brigade, on Twitter, usually have PhD after their name on Twitter, usually followed by their pronouns.


  • #2526
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    I don't think it's considered woke, but as was pointed out earlier, there is the unwritten rule that the title is reserved for MDs and not academics in other disciplines. The one I find is that this so called woke brigade, on Twitter, usually have PhD after their name on Twitter, usually followed by their pronouns.

    Never heard that. Given she worked in education, it is very common to have academic titles used. It's the norm in fact.


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  • #2527
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Tony EH wrote: »
    How anyone doesn't know that that account is pure parody is a truly scary thing.

    Titania McGrath used be satire but is a moderate these days.


  • #2528
    ShagNastii
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    https://youtu.be/YRsf6by2NhI

    Another one of those parodies that is so good it could be real.


  • #2529
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Just to push the Titania love :)

    "The Votes of Black Americans Should Count Twice
    Vote reparations would empower us to replace oppressive institutions with life-affirming structures of equality."

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1340542236954660866?s=20


  • #2530
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    46 Long wrote: »
    Satire is officially dead

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1339977959508226048

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1339978020556316673?s=20

    Keep pushing


  • #2531
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Titania is a forward thinking counter culture wokephobe.

    As a unit of confined solidarity we can finally put a stop to her antisocial pedantic prophecies and leanings, together we can mismanage her aspersions.

    Technopaganism is a modern philosophic quagmire poisoning the minds of our children,neighbours and our polarised cultural oppressors.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/-brexit-shows-democracy-doesn-t-work-an-interview-with-titania-mcgrath


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  • #2532
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/professor-gets-heat-after-saying-whiter-elderly-should-wait-for-vaccine/

    There is no middle ground now.


    “Older populations are whiter, ” Harald Schmidt told the New York Times. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”


  • #2533
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bambi wrote: »
    https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/professor-gets-heat-after-saying-whiter-elderly-should-wait-for-vaccine/

    There is no middle ground now.


    “Older populations are whiter, ” Harald Schmidt told the New York Times. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”
    He may be correct in saying that health care workers should be vaccinated first, but for completely the wrong reasons.

    Health care workers who are vaccinated are less likely to be carriers, thus protecting more vulnerable people.

    To bring in race to a purely medical issue, is wrong on all counts.


  • #2534
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    made me laugh , fun that it will be hitting the class of people that are the most woke (at least in public)

    https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1340199529891549184

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #2535
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Health care workers who are vaccinated are less likely to be carriers, thus protecting more vulnerable people.
    There is currently no support for this statement.
    The new vaccines will probably prevent you from getting sick with Covid.
    No one knows yet whether they will keep you from spreading the virus to others — but that information is coming.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html


  • #2536
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    silverharp wrote: »
    made me laugh , fun that it will be hitting the class of people that are the most woke (at least in public)

    https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1340199529891549184

    The richer the student body the more woke and radical left it is.

    I remember a time when being left wasn't a signifier of class wealth

    54k a year tuition fee for a primary school, no wonder they are so woke


  • #2537
    the purple tin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    silverharp wrote: »
    made me laugh , fun that it will be hitting the class of people that are the most woke (at least in public)

    https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1340199529891549184


    Whackos have been doing this throughout history. Indoctrinate and brainwash the children and in 10 or 15 years you will have your own personal army.


  • #2538
    RLF71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭RLF71


    Whatever happened to common sense and good manners? Is that still a thing or am I that old now? That is has all been replaced by this BS we know now as being Woke? How soft younger generations are becoming. They are ruining their own future and yet blaming the past how distorted it is in their eyes. And all the media on the bandwagon for ratings. There will be no end to it now.


  • #2539
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    RLF71 wrote: »
    Whatever happened to common sense and good manners? Is that still a thing or am I that old now? That is has all been replaced by this BS we know now as being Woke? How soft younger generations are becoming. They are ruining their own future and yet blaming the past how distorted it is in their eyes. And all the media on the bandwagon for ratings. There will be no end to it now.

    Common sense must give way when people are increasingly becoming more sensitive to criticism, and/or perceived offensive behavior.

    Dunno if it's that younger generations are becoming soft. I've found a lot of people my own generation (mid 40s) are buying into this attitude of being offended, and showing less patience towards others.

    It won't end until there is a major pushback, but I don't really see that happening for another decade or more. It will become a lot worse, before it starts to become better.


  • #2540
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Black people must’ve been the only oppressed people ever?


  • #2541
    RLF71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭RLF71


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Black people must’ve been the only oppressed people ever?

    They weren't really. In America the Chinese were oppressed and exploited into building the railroad system. The Irish coming off the boats were enlisted in the Union army on arrival during the Civil War.


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  • #2542
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    RLF71 wrote: »
    They weren't really. In America the Chinese were oppressed and exploited into building the railroad system. The Irish coming off the boats were enlisted in the Union army on arrival during the Civil War.

    Both we’re paid, in some form. Cant really compare that to black slavery.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #2543
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Is that why all the mixed race couples in advertising and TV shows are a black/brown man with a white woman and never the other way around?
    There seem to be a few reasons for this. Black women are nearly as "invisible" as White men in the woke narrative and certainly in the wider culture reflected in marketing. African American women commentators on this sorta thing have long noted this. While in that culture the Black man is both feared and fetishised in about equal measure the Black woman is either not present or a figure of fun. Hell, you even see this in US produced porn. Look for interracial and it's almost entirely Black bloke with as White a women as possible. Black women are also seen as less "saleable", less "attractive" than White women when selling to a majority White audience. They're perceived as less attractive full stop. Even famous Black women are regularly photoshopped to have paler skin and when was the last time you saw a Black women in the media with her natural afro hair? White men are of course the oppressor/coloniser stand in so him being seen with a Black women would be grating for some. Also a White woman with "jungle fever" is more palatable than the other way around. So a couple where he's White and she's Black wrinkles noses on a few levels and that's mainly why you don't see them in my humble.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #2544
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Black people must’ve been the only oppressed people ever?

    They're the most oppressed because it happened in the US. The millions working on colonial plantations or such in Asia, or S.America don't count because they weren't brought into a western nation. As such, everyone else gets a back seat in claiming victimhood. That slavery and oppression existed long before white people appeared in Africa, or pretty much everywhere, doesn't matter. It only matters that there are African Americans in America today.


  • #2545
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    46 Long wrote: »
    Satire is officially dead

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1339977959508226048

    I’ve actually been blocked by Andrew Doyle, the Titania McGrath creator, on Twitter. And I was somebody who really enjoyed his comic output and pretty much all his tweets. But when he meets with mild disagreement, he’s quite liberal with the ol’ block tool. He was quite testy in our exchange and I found that surprising for somebody who rails against wokeness and the intolerance that comes with it. He’s pretty intolerant of viewpoints that challenge his, for all his posturing. My tweet that he initially took issue with was really quite mild. I was surprised at his response.


  • #2546
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I’ve actually been blocked by Andrew Doyle, the Titania McGrath creator, on Twitter. And I was somebody who really enjoyed his comic output and pretty much all his tweets. But when he meets with mild disagreement, he’s quite liberal with the ol’ block tool. He was quite testy in our exchange and I found that surprising for somebody who rails against wokeness and the intolerance that comes with it. He’s pretty intolerant of viewpoints that challenge his, for all his posturing. My tweet that he initially took issue with was really quite mild. I was surprised at his response.

    Any chance of some context here? Interesting post.


  • #2547
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I’ve actually been blocked by Andrew Doyle, the Titania McGrath creator, on Twitter. And I was somebody who really enjoyed his comic output and pretty much all his tweets. But when he meets with mild disagreement, he’s quite liberal with the ol’ block tool. He was quite testy in our exchange and I found that surprising for somebody who rails against wokeness and the intolerance that comes with it. He’s pretty intolerant of viewpoints that challenge his, for all his posturing. My tweet that he initially took issue with was really quite mild. I was surprised at his response.
    When I was on Twitter, before I got sense ;) I had a to and fro with him over Brexit (I can't remember the exact point, it was nearly two years ago) and he was nothing but patient and courteous!


  • #2548
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Common sense must give way when people are increasingly becoming more sensitive to criticism, and/or perceived offensive behavior.

    Dunno if it's that younger generations are becoming soft. I've found a lot of people my own generation (mid 40s) are buying into this attitude of being offended, and showing less patience towards others.

    It won't end until there is a major pushback, but I don't really see that happening for another decade or more. It will become a lot worse, before it starts to become better.

    It's weaponised "offence". It's just a method of closing something down before it snowballs to a point where a person has to adjust their ideas and thought processes. It just a debate tactic and one that's easily negotiated by saying "Fine, you're offended".

    The problem here is not that people are using a particular method to offset an argument, it's that being wrong has somehow become the most abhorrent thing one can be. This isn't helped, of course, by others employing another conversational tactic, the falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus method, whereby, the accusation of being wrong once means that you're wrong in everything else.

    Being wrong is a natural state of being. I'd say we're wrong about 80% of the time, either in part or in whole. But that's how we learn. The thing is you have to allow yourself to learn from mistakes and that's the real trick.

    Of course, certain views are no longer tolerated and shouldn't be, like racist ones, because A. they're baloney and B. we have ample evidence of where such thinking can lead and it ain't pretty. So, there's rightfully a lid placed on that type of hair brained gibberish.

    Being "offended" is an easy conversational tactic to employ, but as said earlier, it's also easy to get around. If you're offended, you're offended. Now what?


  • #2549
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115673646&postcount=8114

    How does someone end up with one white hand and one brown hand????


  • #2550
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I’ve actually been blocked by Andrew Doyle, the Titania McGrath creator, on Twitter. And I was somebody who really enjoyed his comic output and pretty much all his tweets. But when he meets with mild disagreement, he’s quite liberal with the ol’ block tool. He was quite testy in our exchange and I found that surprising for somebody who rails against wokeness and the intolerance that comes with it. He’s pretty intolerant of viewpoints that challenge his, for all his posturing. My tweet that he initially took issue with was really quite mild. I was surprised at his response.

    Mmmm...quite often I've found that those who constantly rail against "wokeness" are one's that get quite het up themselves over the mildest of disagreements.

    Frankly, I don't know who's worse. The so called "woke" crowd or the ones that constantly bleat on and on about it.


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  • #2551
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Any chance of some context here? Interesting post.

    So if I recall, he posted an article by some journalist where she said that little girls who weren’t into girly things were way less boring. My response was a comment on the article, not him. It was along the lines of “Oh, that’s weird judging kids in that way” because I do think it’s kind of strange to write off tiny humans as boring or not based on the things they are into. He was straight in saying “That’s that writer’s PREFERENCE, I find it weird that somebody’s opinion would upset you”. Me: “I’m not upset. This person wrote an article for public consumption and I, a member of the public, am flapping my gums about it”. Him “Yes, but why get upset about somebody’s preference?” and it went on like that back and forth for a while. I did say I thought it was would be pretty odd for an adult to have a rigid preference for how they like children to act. :D I believe I was blocked not long after that.

    But anyway, I thought his response was a bit disproportionate. I mean, why feckin’ comment on anyone’s expressed opinion in that case? And the idea that I was upset by the journalist’s article. I wasn’t, I was just commenting on it.

    I’ve seen him block people for saying that he only really has one joke. That joke can be frequently funny but they’re kinda right there. It’s kinda mean to say that to him but I guess I expect comedians to be way more thick-skinned than that.


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