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whelan2 wrote: »

My aunt rang from newry, she was planning on coming down and visiting 4 families of relatives and then going for a meal. My dad just said no way. She was insistent that if she had her mask on it would be grand. Totally different view on covid to us down here

582 today, it'll be 1000 in no time.
If the southerners don't have manners we'll be locked down before Christmas and no one to blame but ourselves

whelan2 wrote: »

My aunt rang from newry, she was planning on coming down and visiting 4 families of relatives and then going for a meal. My dad just said no way. She was insistent that if she had her mask on it would be grand. Totally different view on covid to us down here

A good friend died in October, he is originally from the North and his siblings, nieces and nephews attended the funeral. The undertaker had to ask them to put on masks before entering the church. As soon as the funeral mass was over most of them took the masks off and we were still inside the church. I found out afterwards that one of his nephews had been tested the day before the funeral but they never let on. The same man was discharged from an intensive care unit in a Northern hospital on Wednesday.

Donegalforever wrote: »

Have you noticed that since the Coronavirus Pandemic arrived there appears to be no deaths caused by the "normal" Flu.

Flu pretty much comes from the southern hemisphere up to us for winter. They had a pretty much non-existent flu season, so already a lot less of it around. Coupled with a lot less travel into the country, social distancing and masks, enhanced hygiene, vulnerable people taking a lot more risks and the fact it is already less contagious then COVID means its pretty much not around

There are most likely cases around but as of yet the HSE has recorded 0 flu cases this season.

A good thing really, flu on top of covid wouldn't be ideal!

emaherx wrote: »

Yes, almost every one has, it's as if social distancing and lack of travel has had a bigger impact on a disease which is less infectious than covid-19. I'm sure it would be easy to create some more interesting conspiracy theory though.

Lack of travel is the probably the main cause but disrupting the flu's cycle of moving around the world will presumably mean that there will be a greater diversity of strains emerge as things hopefully get moving again over the coming years

wrangler wrote: »

Deadly or not, the north has shown us what can happen, the virus in the south is not as big a problem as our rubbish health service. It's the lack of a health service is the reason the country is kept locked down,

young people should be allowed decide what risks to take and have a proper health service to deal with those that get it wrong

Go red at throwaway comments like that about our health service. The whole world is in pretty much the same situ - bursting at the seams due to increased demand against reducing capacity. Ireland is no different than other countries in this regard. Remember Italy sent over 65’s home from hospital to die during the first wave because their health service was completely overwhelmed. Quote here re NHS - Operations have had to be cancelled, and hospitals had to divert ambulance crews to different facilities 44 times last week - the most since 2016.

Why would the youth have the right to live their life without restrictions in the midst of a pandemic and then expect the/any health service to step in ‘if they get it wrong’. So many things wrong with your statement notwithstanding the risk they would knowingly place our front line workers under.

https://twitter.com/damianbruced/status/1334884407627444233?s=08

Very very interesting thread here on Varadkar!

Basically he knows the continuous lockdowns are a sham.

However, he's not going to say it too loudly as he knows the media would crucify him (they threw him a warning shot with the leak "scandal")

He can foresee a point in the coming years where the lunacy of these lockdowns will be exposed and he's preparing his quotes to be able to say: "I told ye so"

A smart man - but cynical and self-serving to the core.

odyssey06 wrote: »

Nope.
If you have anything solid to back that up with pls post otherwise its a garbage claim.
And dont buy anything from wherever you read it.

It would be very interesting to test at least a portion of covid positives for a range of diseases. If they also tested positive for other coronaviruses, flus, rhinovirus, pneumonia etc how do we know what one is causing the disease.
When a covid positive is identified I doubt too many more questions are asked

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

It would be very interesting to test at least a portion of covid positives for a range of diseases. If they also tested positive for other coronaviruses, flus, rhinovirus, pneumonia etc how do we know what one is causing the disease.
When a covid positive is identified I doubt too many more questions are asked

While that is true,

I think it's safe to assume levels of flu are extremely low compared to normal unless you are suggesting almost every sevear flu globally is also accompanied by this coronavirus.

emaherx wrote: »

While that is true,

I think it's safe to assume levels of flu are extremely low compared to normal unless you are suggesting almost every sevear flu globally is also accompanied by this coronavirus.

Not suggesting anything only it would be interesting to see what would be found.
The flu monitoring carried out in a normal year is a few hundred or thousand samples taken through the winter and then rough calculations based on percentages of those with flu like symptoms that test positive scaled up to the population. It's not a case that most people (even in hospital) would ever be tested to see if they have flu.
Is there the same amount of sampling being carried out as other years? I assume the focus is almost entirely on covid

Normal flu is very low according to the medics in my family.

Water John wrote: »

Normal flu is very low according to the medics in my family.

Very low sales in uniflu etc this year

Boris is bringing in Level 4 and cancelling Christmas.

Neddyusa wrote: »

https://twitter.com/damianbruced/status/1334884407627444233?s=08

Very very interesting thread here on Varadkar!

Basically he knows the continuous lockdowns are a sham.

However, he's not going to say it too loudly as he knows the media would crucify him (they threw him a warning shot with the leak "scandal")

He can foresee a point in the coming years where the lunacy of these lockdowns will be exposed and he's preparing his quotes to be able to say: "I told ye so"

A smart man - but cynical and self-serving to the core.

Dont know who that guy is but clearly a covid denier to say the least from his Twitter page. Would be taking what he is saying with a shovel of salt. Might be giving leo too much credit for potential foresight when really I dont know if leo is just fond of running his mouth

odyssey06 wrote: »

Nope.
If you have anything solid to back that up with pls post otherwise its a garbage claim.
And dont buy anything from wherever you read it.

Don't be so sure that you are correct.
It is not a case of me "buying from wherever"
I read a lot of things and always keep an open mind in the absence of definite proof.

Donegalforever wrote: »

Don't be so sure that you are correct.
It is not a case of me "buying from wherever"
I read a lot of things and always keep an open mind in the absence of definite proof.

I don't have time to entertain mere speculation without foundation or plausibility, we have to proceed on the basis of reasonable certainty in our actions. So yes your claim is one sent straight to the garbage bin.

What you are impying is that in all those tests we didn't find a single person who tested positive for flu.
But we're picking up hundreds or thousands of people per day who test positive for covid.
And yet the covid test is being fooled by flu?

There are even diagnostic tests that will test for covid, influenza A and influenza B.

There is such a thing as a mind so open anyone can fill it with whatever they want.