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The Vaccine

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  • #1412
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    No they aren't, this is because you are either flat-out telling porky pies, or you have misunderstood a situation.

    Considering you repeatedly demonstrate that you can't understand basic stuff like how masks work, how vaccines work, that the new vaccines will "change our DNA", etc I'd say it's a toss-up between the two.

    that makes sense then that they are being trained on the operation of a new infusion pump to administer a vaccine

    I must have misunderstood


  • #1413
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    If it makes you happy, I made it all up, figment of my imagination

    Apparently I'm good at that

    Well it is a remarkable coincidence that you, who believes in a vaccine conspiracy, bumped into a hospital worker who told you that.


  • #1414
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Who do you think is involved in the consulting for this equipment?
    Mrs Lex?

    I don't believe your claim... It's not the first time you've specialist knowledge etc and clearly haven't got it. Hospitals are not preparing for mass casualties from vaccines... More likely to experience a surge in covid in the coming weeks.


  • #1415
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I was in a major hospital in Dublin today talking to one of the biomeds
    They are preparing the icu unit and training the nurses on new equipment for an influx of patients due to the vaccination program

    Lol no you weren't, whats this "new" equipment that they suddenly need "training" on?


  • #1416
    rtron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭rtron


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Lol no you weren't, whats this "new" equipment that they suddenly need "training" on?

    Might be one of these:
    _https://m.made-in-china.com/product/inDepth-Scanning-of-Chromosomes-DNA-Rna-Biophilia-Tracker-Nls-Health-Analyzer-Biophilia-743249902.html


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  • #1417
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Covid denialism and disinfo

    I don't know anyone who denies covid exists. Is there really anyone?

    What I do find funny is that nobody mentions very often the fact that is is very survivable. You would think that it kills a large portion of those infected.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/25/cdc-data-shows-high-virus-survival-rate-99-plus-for-ages-69-and-younger-94-6-for-older/


  • #1418
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    kleefarr wrote: »
    I don't know anyone who denies covid exists. Is there really anyone?

    What I do find funny is that nobody mentions very often the fact that is is very survivable. You would think that it kills a large portion of those infected.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/25/cdc-data-shows-high-virus-survival-rate-99-plus-for-ages-69-and-younger-94-6-for-older/

    Would those percentages change if hospital treatment wasn't available in your opinion?


  • #1419
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    aido79 wrote: »
    Would those percentages change if hospital treatment wasn't available in your opinion?

    Not much.


  • #1420
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Not much.

    Here's one study that shows that 21 percent of people hospitalised required ICU and 10 percent required mechanical ventilation.

    https://www.beckersasc.com/asc-quality-infection-control/20-of-young-adults-hospitalized-for-covid-19-required-intensive-care-study-says.html

    Do you think it might be possible that some of these people could have died if they weren't hospitalised?


  • #1421
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    aido79 wrote: »
    Here's one study that shows that 21 percent of people hospitalised required ICU and 10 percent required mechanical ventilation.

    https://www.beckersasc.com/asc-quality-infection-control/20-of-young-adults-hospitalized-for-covid-19-required-intensive-care-study-says.html

    Do you think it might be possible that some of these people could have died if they weren't hospitalised?

    Who knows. I have seen reports from hospital workers that were saying the methods used in hospital were killing people.
    Its a lottery, but thinking that most bad cases are concerning people with underlying issues.

    With all this "Kills 99.9% of bacteria" Most aren't in the best shape as bodies nothing to fight against. Play in the dirt.

    Also remember that its actually detergent that does the most damage to the virus by breaking down the outer wall, not antibacterial stuff.


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  • #1422
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Who knows. I have seen reports from hospital workers that were saying the methods used in hospital were killing people.
    Its a lottery, but thinking that most bad cases are concerning people with underlying issues.

    With all this "Kills 99.9% of bacteria" Most aren't in the best shape as bodies nothing to fight against. Play in the dirt.

    Also remember that its actually detergent that does the most damage to the virus by breaking down the outer wall, not antibacterial stuff.

    You're probably more sceptical than myself but I really do believe that acute cases are better to be treated in hospital rather outside a hospital especially if the person has an underlying condition. Would you agree?


  • #1423
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    aido79 wrote: »
    You're probably more sceptical than myself but I really do believe that acute cases are better to be treated in hospital rather outside a hospital especially if the person has an underlying condition. Would you agree?

    Yep probably, but its an individual choice.

    Thrive and Thrive II is worth a watch.


  • #1424
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Yep probably, but its an individual choice.

    Thrive and Thrive II is worth a watch.

    How is it an individual choice if the choice element is taken away because a hospital bed is not available?

    I have no intention of watching any movie about conspiracy theories but what is the connection to any of what I'm asking?


  • #1425
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    aido79 wrote: »
    How is it an individual choice if the choice element is taken away because a hospital bed is not available?

    Good point, but if bed available it would be the case.
    aido79 wrote: »
    I have no intention of watching any movie about conspiracy theories but what is the connection to any of what I'm asking?

    I like to take in all points of view. And from what I have lived through over the last 59 years I think it is a more sinister world. All money power and corruption.


  • #1426
    harrylittle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭harrylittle


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I was in a major hospital in Dublin today talking to one of the biomeds
    They are preparing the icu unit and training the nurses on new equipment for an influx of patients due to the vaccination program

    Yes like this nurse who fainted after taking the vaccine .....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmjO98I629A


  • #1427
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    harrylittle wrote: »
    Yes like this nurse who fainted after taking the vaccine .....
    Why did the vaccine cause her to faint in your view?


  • #1428
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    harrylittle wrote: »
    Yes like this nurse who fainted after taking the vaccine .....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmjO98I629A

    The nurse who herself admits she has a condition that causes her to faint when she experiences pain?


  • #1429
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Good point, but if bed available it would be the case.



    I like to take in all points of view. And from what I have lived through over the last 59 years I think it is a more sinister world. All money power and corruption.

    Do you understand the reasons for lockdowns, masks, social distancing etc was to give everyone who needed a hospital bed a chance to get a hospital bed? You say only a small percentage die from covid19 but without hospital treatment these numbers could quickly rise. Do you accept that?

    You seem predisposed to the notion that everything is about money, power and corruption so I can see why you think there is something sinister behind this virus.


  • #1430
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Yep


  • #1431
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Yep

    Yep to what?


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  • #1432
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    I understand the reasons for lock down. Government say so. May be they should have a rota system, those that don't care get two weeks out while those that do stay in and then vice versa.

    Life is a gamble.


  • #1433
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The nurse who herself admits she has a condition that causes her to faint when she experiences pain?

    Didn't she know that when she agreed to promote it
    Is this more painful than flu vaccine
    Being a nurse I'm sure she gets flu vaccine every year


  • #1434
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Didn't she know that when she agreed to promote it
    Is this more painful than flu vaccine
    Being a nurse I'm sure she gets flu vaccine every year
    Why would it be more painful? Why would this indicate that the vaccine is more dangerous?

    It looks more like conspiracy theorists are looking for any straw to grasp to say the vaccine is bad.


  • #1435
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Didn't she know that when she agreed to promote it
    Is this more painful than flu vaccine
    Being a nurse I'm sure she gets flu vaccine every year

    Honestly, what exactly is fainting proof of? It happens, it's not a big deal and it's a tad sad to fixate on it in any way.


  • #1436
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    So no more painful than flu which must cause same reaction fainting every year

    Why did she agree to stand in front of live cameras when fainting was a strong possibility

    Very odd


  • #1437
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    So no more painful than flu which must cause same reaction fainting every year
    Why would it be more painful and why would that indicate anything about the vaccine.
    You've dodged and ignored the question because you don't have an answer.
    You're just desperate for anything bad to scaremonger about the vaccine.
    It's ridiculous.
    enno99 wrote: »
    Why did she agree to stand in front of live cameras when fainting was a strong possibility

    Very odd
    Why wouldn't she?
    What's the actual explanation?
    Why if the vaccine was actually secretly bad and more painful would they use the real one and cause this reaction?

    Again, you're dodging this points because you can't provide a conspiracy explanation.
    All you can do is make pathetically vague insinuations you know are false and dishonest.


  • #1438
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    So no more painful than flu which must cause same reaction fainting every year

    Why did she agree to stand in front of live cameras when fainting was a strong possibility

    Very odd

    Do you think she's actively participating in a large scale cover up? Cause that would be much odder as beliefs go.


  • #1439
    Ted_YNWA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    that makes sense then that they are being trained on the operation of a new infusion pump to administer a vaccine

    I must have misunderstood

    Understatement if the century, maybe question what you hear or see more, and not blindly believe what you WANT to see or hear. It is dangerous to spread fake news stories like this.


  • #1440
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    Understatement if the century, maybe question what you hear or see more, and not blindly believe what you WANT to see or hear. It is dangerous to spread fake news stories like this.

    My sarcasm radar must have been blocked when I posted this


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  • #1441
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    https://youtu.be/lkGB1-YFn1Q

    When you rush a vaccine and skip the most important step of animal trials you are asking for trouble


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