COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

hmmm · 18-12-2020 01:47PM

https://twitter.com/ScienceMagazine/status/1339675722814803970

hmmm · 18-12-2020 01:49PM

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

ACitizenErased · 18-12-2020 01:56PM

hmmm wrote: »

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

I laughed, I really shouldn't have

iguana · 18-12-2020 01:56PM

hmmm wrote: »

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

Indestructable · 18-12-2020 01:57PM

iguana wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

RTE headline...

ACitizenErased · 18-12-2020 01:58PM

Moderna approved according to Trump on Twitter.

Gael23 · 18-12-2020 02:04PM

If they are not keeping 2500 back then they must be expecting more quite quickly

Hmmzis · 18-12-2020 02:05PM

iguana wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

You owe me a cup of coffee (I think the keyboard is fine though).

Micky 32 · 18-12-2020 02:08PM

Just watching Pence getting vaccinated live. One of the questions he was asked along with allergies etc was he on blood thinners. Any reason for that? Both my parents are on thinners due to ticker issues.

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 02:28PM

hmmm wrote: »

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

Can't fault them for being very detailed with the adverse data event anyway but that's a whole new level.

Also oddly funny when it really shouldn't be

CIARAN_BOYLE · 18-12-2020 02:51PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Just watching Pence getting vaccinated live. One of the questions he was asked along with allergies etc was he on blood thinners. Any reason for that? Both my parents are on thinners due to ticker issues.

Injection sites can be troublesome for people on blood thinners.

There can be excessive bruising at the site.

Some injections advice that people on blood thinners put pressure on the injection site after the injection to reduce the risk of bruising.

If they mess up the injection and theres bleeding it can take longer to stop blood flow.

It's a general injection thing.

Marhay70 · 18-12-2020 02:58PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Injection sites can be troublesome for people on blood thinners.

There can be excessive bruising at the site.

Some injections advice that people on blood thinners put pressure on the injection site after the injection to reduce the risk of bruising.

If they mess up the injection and theres bleeding it can take longer to stop blood flow.

It's a general injection thing.

I've been on blood thinners for years and, as a diabetic I'm no stranger to needles, I've had the flu vaccine every year since it came out and I've never been asked that question.

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 03:01PM

Martin stating during a press conference after North South ministerial Council that he expects AstraZeneca/Oxford to be approved by EMA in January.

Also on vaccines says that he thinks the vaccination programme will be of such a scale over the summer months to be of assistance to the travel industry.

Does appear to be suggestions lately that they expected to be open for the summer.

leahyl · 18-12-2020 03:05PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Martin stating during a press conference after North South ministerial Council that he expects AstraZeneca/Oxford to be approved by EMA in January.

Also on vaccines says that he thinks the vaccination programme will be of such a scale over the summer months to be of assistance to the travel industry.

Does appear to be suggestions lately that they expected to be open for the summer.

Great to hear

is_that_so · 18-12-2020 03:13PM

Nurses to start training on vaccine administration from next week.

The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation has said that nurses are to begin training next week for administering the Covid-19 vaccine and said it is vital the health and wellbeing of healthcare workers is protected at this time.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1218/1185242-ireland-vaccine/

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 03:17PM

Just spotted this tweet from an NHS doc when looking for something related to AstraZeneca & Oxford.

Turns out he was in the trial, got the standard 2 dose not the half and full. Anyway he found this out on Tuesday that he did indeed get the vaccine and not placebo.

During the trial he got covid a few months after getting the vaccine, had a positive swab, as did his family. You can see from the tweets below he says the rest of his family were bed bound, for him he felt like he had a head cold for a day.

Interesting to see someone's experience who's been in the trial, thats perfectly acceptable as a vaccine for me.

https://twitter.com/DaveJGunn/status/1338814685777436674?s=19

Russman · 18-12-2020 03:20PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just spotted this tweet from an NHS doc when looking for something related to AstraZeneca & Oxford.

Turns out he was in the trial, got the standard 2 dose not the half and full. Anyway he found this out on Tuesday that he did indeed get the vaccine and not placebo.

During the trial he got covid a few months after getting the vaccine, had a positive swab, as did his family. You can see from the tweets below he says the rest of his family were bed bound, for him he felt like he had a head cold for a day.

Interesting to see someone's experience who's been in the trial, thats perfectly acceptable as a vaccine for me.

https://twitter.com/DaveJGunn/status/1338814685777436674?s=19

Wonder did he pass it to the wife or the wife to him ?

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 03:24PM

Russman wrote: »

Wonder did he pass it to the wife or the wife to him ?

Unsure tbh would be interesting to know. Given his work wouldn't be surprised if it was him to her. Could be either way though.

Stheno · 18-12-2020 03:42PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Martin stating during a press conference after North South ministerial Council that he expects AstraZeneca/Oxford to be approved by EMA in January.

Also on vaccines says that he thinks the vaccination programme will be of such a scale over the summer months to be of assistance to the travel industry.

Does appear to be suggestions lately that they expected to be open for the summer.

Would you mind posting how much of Pfizer, moderna and Oxford the Eu have advance orders for please?

Sconsey · 18-12-2020 03:46PM

Stheno wrote: »

Would you mind posting how much of Pfizer, moderna and Oxford the Eu have advance orders for please?

Page 8 of this doc outlines the volumes of vaccine earmarked for Ireland, so I guess if we are 1% of the total then multiply by 100. Maybe not perfect but should be close enough.

Stheno · 18-12-2020 03:50PM

Thanks i was looking for the Irish allocations

Isn't the Oxford one being manufactured in both the UK and India in huge quantities?

Hearing three may be approved in January has really lifted my spirits

seamus · 18-12-2020 03:52PM

iguana wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

That's the microchips. They make you electrically charged.

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 04:03PM

Stheno wrote: »

Thanks i was looking for the Irish allocations

Isn't the Oxford one being manufactured in both the UK and India in huge quantities?

Hearing three may be approved in January has really lifted my spirits

Current allocations from EU purchases

AstraZeneca - 3,300,000
Sanofi/GSK - 3,300,000
Janssen Pharmaceutical (J&J) - 2,200,000
Curevac - 2,475,000
Moderna - 880,000
BioNTech/Pfizer - 2,200,000

Hmmzis · 18-12-2020 04:11PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Current allocations from EU purchases

AstraZeneca - 3,300,000
Sanofi/GSK - 3,300,000
Janssen Pharmaceutical (J&J) - 2,200,000
Curevac - 2,475,000
Moderna - 880,000
BioNTech/Pfizer - 2,200,000
Novavax - 2,200,000*

*Looks like we're in talks with Novavax as well:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2305

Btw. Moderna's and Pfizer/BNT's allocations can increase if the future options are utilized (extra 880,000 from Moderna and extra 1,100,000 from Pfizer/BNT).

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 04:14PM

Hmmzis wrote: »

*Looks like we're in talks with Novavax as well:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2305

Oh yeah forgot about that announcement yesterday.

I think if im not mistaken their phase 3 trial in the UK is fully enrolled and should have some idea in Q1 how things are looking

18-12-2020 04:16PM

Stheno wrote: »

Thanks i was looking for the Irish allocations

Isn't the Oxford one being manufactured in both the UK and India in huge quantities?

Hearing three may be approved in January has really lifted my spirits

Also being manufactured in Netherland, Germany and Italy I think. UK's manufacturing capacity is 80m doses next year, the Serum Institute is about 1 billion for the year. Not sure about the other manufacturing sites but it really is the one (used along with the more efficacious Pfizer and Moderna vaccines) that could bring all this back to near normality by the Summer. Once J & J is available in March or thereabouts things could already be looking much better.

Gael23 · 18-12-2020 04:18PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Injection sites can be troublesome for people on blood thinners.

There can be excessive bruising at the site.

Some injections advice that people on blood thinners put pressure on the injection site after the injection to reduce the risk of bruising.

If they mess up the injection and theres bleeding it can take longer to stop blood flow.

It's a general injection thing.

If it’s an intramuscular injection this should not be a huge problem. I’m on weekly IM injections and only on a rare occasion do I get any significant bleeding

alchemist33 · 18-12-2020 04:45PM

Just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - I'm in healthcare in the North - and no serious side-effects in the first 15 minutes!

ACitizenErased · 18-12-2020 04:52PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - I'm in healthcare in the North - and no serious side-effects in the first 15 minutes!

Congrats!

Kerry25x · 18-12-2020 04:54PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - I'm in healthcare in the North - and no serious side-effects in the first 15 minutes!

Congrats! How are they rolling it out to healthcare staff there? Is it NHS hospital staff first? Covid wards and ED prioritised? My sister is a community nurse in UK and hasn't heard anything yet.

COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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