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COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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Today being Paddy Day 2020... when do you think we will have a ‘flu jab’ / pill / syrup that we can take to make us immune/ les likely to catch this 19 virus?.

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hmmm

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

ACitizenErased

hmmm wrote: »

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

I laughed, I really shouldn't have

iguana

hmmm wrote: »

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

Indestructable

iguana wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

RTE headline...

ACitizenErased

Moderna approved according to Trump on Twitter.

Gael23

If they are not keeping 2500 back then they must be expecting more quite quickly

Hmmzis

iguana wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

You owe me a cup of coffee (I think the keyboard is fine though).

Micky 32

Just watching Pence getting vaccinated live. One of the questions he was asked along with allergies etc was he on blood thinners. Any reason for that? Both my parents are on thinners due to ticker issues.

stephenjmcd

hmmm wrote: »

One of the "Serious adverse events" reported in the vaccine group on the Moderna trial was a 72 year old struck by lightning who later developed arrhythmia.

Can't fault them for being very detailed with the adverse data event anyway but that's a whole new level.

Also oddly funny when it really shouldn't be

CIARAN_BOYLE

Micky 32 wrote: »

Just watching Pence getting vaccinated live. One of the questions he was asked along with allergies etc was he on blood thinners. Any reason for that? Both my parents are on thinners due to ticker issues.

Injection sites can be troublesome for people on blood thinners.

There can be excessive bruising at the site.

Some injections advice that people on blood thinners put pressure on the injection site after the injection to reduce the risk of bruising.

If they mess up the injection and theres bleeding it can take longer to stop blood flow.

It's a general injection thing.

Marhay70

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Injection sites can be troublesome for people on blood thinners.

There can be excessive bruising at the site.

Some injections advice that people on blood thinners put pressure on the injection site after the injection to reduce the risk of bruising.

If they mess up the injection and theres bleeding it can take longer to stop blood flow.

It's a general injection thing.

I've been on blood thinners for years and, as a diabetic I'm no stranger to needles, I've had the flu vaccine every year since it came out and I've never been asked that question.

stephenjmcd

Martin stating during a press conference after North South ministerial Council that he expects AstraZeneca/Oxford to be approved by EMA in January.

Also on vaccines says that he thinks the vaccination programme will be of such a scale over the summer months to be of assistance to the travel industry.

Does appear to be suggestions lately that they expected to be open for the summer.

leahyl

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Martin stating during a press conference after North South ministerial Council that he expects AstraZeneca/Oxford to be approved by EMA in January.

Also on vaccines says that he thinks the vaccination programme will be of such a scale over the summer months to be of assistance to the travel industry.

Does appear to be suggestions lately that they expected to be open for the summer.

Great to hear

is_that_so

Nurses to start training on vaccine administration from next week.

The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation has said that nurses are to begin training next week for administering the Covid-19 vaccine and said it is vital the health and wellbeing of healthcare workers is protected at this time.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1218/1185242-ireland-vaccine/

stephenjmcd

Just spotted this tweet from an NHS doc when looking for something related to AstraZeneca & Oxford.

Turns out he was in the trial, got the standard 2 dose not the half and full. Anyway he found this out on Tuesday that he did indeed get the vaccine and not placebo.

During the trial he got covid a few months after getting the vaccine, had a positive swab, as did his family. You can see from the tweets below he says the rest of his family were bed bound, for him he felt like he had a head cold for a day.

Interesting to see someone's experience who's been in the trial, thats perfectly acceptable as a vaccine for me.

https://twitter.com/DaveJGunn/status/1338814685777436674?s=19

Russman

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just spotted this tweet from an NHS doc when looking for something related to AstraZeneca & Oxford.

Turns out he was in the trial, got the standard 2 dose not the half and full. Anyway he found this out on Tuesday that he did indeed get the vaccine and not placebo.

During the trial he got covid a few months after getting the vaccine, had a positive swab, as did his family. You can see from the tweets below he says the rest of his family were bed bound, for him he felt like he had a head cold for a day.

Interesting to see someone's experience who's been in the trial, thats perfectly acceptable as a vaccine for me.

https://twitter.com/DaveJGunn/status/1338814685777436674?s=19

Wonder did he pass it to the wife or the wife to him ?

stephenjmcd

Russman wrote: »

Wonder did he pass it to the wife or the wife to him ?

Unsure tbh would be interesting to know. Given his work wouldn't be surprised if it was him to her. Could be either way though.

Stheno

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Martin stating during a press conference after North South ministerial Council that he expects AstraZeneca/Oxford to be approved by EMA in January.

Also on vaccines says that he thinks the vaccination programme will be of such a scale over the summer months to be of assistance to the travel industry.

Does appear to be suggestions lately that they expected to be open for the summer.

Would you mind posting how much of Pfizer, moderna and Oxford the Eu have advance orders for please?

Sconsey

Stheno wrote: »

Would you mind posting how much of Pfizer, moderna and Oxford the Eu have advance orders for please?

Page 8 of this doc outlines the volumes of vaccine earmarked for Ireland, so I guess if we are 1% of the total then multiply by 100. Maybe not perfect but should be close enough.

Stheno

Thanks i was looking for the Irish allocations

Isn't the Oxford one being manufactured in both the UK and India in huge quantities?

Hearing three may be approved in January has really lifted my spirits

seamus

iguana wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the vaccine turns you into a human lightening rod? :eek:

That's the microchips. They make you electrically charged.

stephenjmcd

Stheno wrote: »

Thanks i was looking for the Irish allocations

Isn't the Oxford one being manufactured in both the UK and India in huge quantities?

Hearing three may be approved in January has really lifted my spirits

Current allocations from EU purchases

AstraZeneca - 3,300,000
Sanofi/GSK - 3,300,000
Janssen Pharmaceutical (J&J) - 2,200,000
Curevac - 2,475,000
Moderna - 880,000
BioNTech/Pfizer - 2,200,000

Hmmzis

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Current allocations from EU purchases

AstraZeneca - 3,300,000
Sanofi/GSK - 3,300,000
Janssen Pharmaceutical (J&J) - 2,200,000
Curevac - 2,475,000
Moderna - 880,000
BioNTech/Pfizer - 2,200,000
Novavax - 2,200,000*

*Looks like we're in talks with Novavax as well:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2305

Btw. Moderna's and Pfizer/BNT's allocations can increase if the future options are utilized (extra 880,000 from Moderna and extra 1,100,000 from Pfizer/BNT).

stephenjmcd

Hmmzis wrote: »

*Looks like we're in talks with Novavax as well:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2305

Oh yeah forgot about that announcement yesterday.

I think if im not mistaken their phase 3 trial in the UK is fully enrolled and should have some idea in Q1 how things are looking

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Stheno wrote: »

Thanks i was looking for the Irish allocations

Isn't the Oxford one being manufactured in both the UK and India in huge quantities?

Hearing three may be approved in January has really lifted my spirits

Also being manufactured in Netherland, Germany and Italy I think. UK's manufacturing capacity is 80m doses next year, the Serum Institute is about 1 billion for the year. Not sure about the other manufacturing sites but it really is the one (used along with the more efficacious Pfizer and Moderna vaccines) that could bring all this back to near normality by the Summer. Once J & J is available in March or thereabouts things could already be looking much better.

Gael23

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Injection sites can be troublesome for people on blood thinners.

There can be excessive bruising at the site.

Some injections advice that people on blood thinners put pressure on the injection site after the injection to reduce the risk of bruising.

If they mess up the injection and theres bleeding it can take longer to stop blood flow.

It's a general injection thing.

If it’s an intramuscular injection this should not be a huge problem. I’m on weekly IM injections and only on a rare occasion do I get any significant bleeding

alchemist33

Just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - I'm in healthcare in the North - and no serious side-effects in the first 15 minutes!

ACitizenErased

alchemist33 wrote: »

Just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - I'm in healthcare in the North - and no serious side-effects in the first 15 minutes!

Congrats!

Kerry25x

alchemist33 wrote: »

Just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - I'm in healthcare in the North - and no serious side-effects in the first 15 minutes!

Congrats! How are they rolling it out to healthcare staff there? Is it NHS hospital staff first? Covid wards and ED prioritised? My sister is a community nurse in UK and hasn't heard anything yet.

Did you smash it

Does anyone know if an antigen test for COVID is the same as a PCR test? You need a PCR test to be able to travel.