The Vaccine

jelem · 17-12-2020 11:14PM

saw posted elsewhere -- death from vaccine is 0.014%
hence vaccinate 7 billion humans and expect near 10 million deaths.
your excuse for THEM is "it did not affect me and dont give a damn about the 10 million humans
as they may have died from virus anyway". dont forget your Passport on top of your
Passport - lol

17-12-2020 11:19PM

enno99 wrote: »

Untrue they may have died with Covid Theres a difference

But it is true. Those people died of covid. I've provided you sources. As usual you ignored them because you are incapable of addressing them.

enno99 wrote: »

So your claim is false and used to scaremonger
...
And as I said earlier if people are scared of getting Covid they should consider getting vaccinated

Again, you guys are suggesting that the vaccine will be used to depopulate, track people and mark them as Satan's property.

enno99 wrote: »

As to the last part Im neither

But wont be answering you again
Thanks for the reply
Stay safe

Again you are ignoring points and dodging questions and you are now declaring that you are running away.
This is very dishonest and very cowardly.

As Dohnjoe pointed out you don't answer anyone, so there's not going to be much of a difference.

We will continue to point out where your claims are false

17-12-2020 11:25PM

jelem wrote: »

saw posted elsewhere -- death from vaccine is 0.014%
hence vaccinate 7 billion humans and expect near 10 million deaths.
your excuse for THEM is "it did not affect me and dont give a damn about the 10 million humans
as they may have died from virus anyway". dont forget your Passport on top of your
Passport - lol

No, vaccines do not cause 0.014% of people to die.
This is a complete fabrication on your part.
Lying is very wrong.

I posted earlier that the average rate of any serious adverse effects from vaccines is 0.00012%.
This includes things other than death.

Meanwhile, despite lies from conspiracy theorists the death rate of covid is between 2% and 1%.
You guys have been telling use that the amount of people who have a will die of covid isn't something to worry about.
You are being a hypocrite.

jelem · 17-12-2020 11:26PM

King Mob wrote: »

But it is true. Those people died of covid. I've provided you sources. As usual you ignored them because you are incapable of addressing them.

Again, you guys are suggesting that the vaccine will be used to depopulate, track people and mark them as Satan's property.

Again you are ignoring points and dodging questions and you are now declaring that you are running away.
This is very dishonest and very cowardly.

As Dohnjoe pointed out you don't answer anyone, so there's not going to be much of a difference.

We will continue to point out where your claims are false

Whats the R in mrna as i thought i saw a medical article that
explains "attacks reproduction cells" hence fertility is an
innocent target UNFORTUNATELY or purposeful depend on
whose truth and motive you take (which should be for your good)
NOT others

PMBC · 17-12-2020 11:35PM

jelem wrote: »

Whats the R in mrna as i thought i saw a medical article that
explains "attacks reproduction cells" hence fertility is an
innocent target UNFORTUNATELY or purposeful depend on
whose truth and motive you take (which should be for your good)
NOT others

Ribose

Ted_YNWA · 17-12-2020 11:39PM

King Mob wrote: »

No, vaccines do not cause 0.014% of people to die.
This is a complete fabrication on your part.
Lying is very wrong.

I posted earlier that the average rate of any serious adverse effects from vaccines is 0.00012%.
This includes things other than death.

Meanwhile, despite lies from conspiracy theorists the death rate of covid is between 2% and 1%.
You guys have been telling use that the amount of people who have a will die of covid isn't something to worry about.
You are being a hypocrite.

Mod

Again, can you drop the "you guys". Conspiracy theorists are not all one homogenous group. Drop the personal attacks too.

17-12-2020 11:41PM

jelem wrote: »

Whats the R in mrna as i thought i saw a medical article that
explains "attacks reproduction cells" hence fertility is an

This is a complete lie.
It also demonstrates that you don't even understand the vaccine your are talking about.

It takes all of two seconds for you to Google what mRNA stands for.

runawaybishop · 17-12-2020 11:44PM

jelem wrote: »

Whats the R in mrna as i thought i saw a medical article that
explains "attacks reproduction cells" hence fertility is an
innocent target UNFORTUNATELY or purposeful depend on
whose truth and motive you take (which should be for your good)
NOT others

Lol, you saw no such thing.

Covid seems to mess your sperm up though, but that could just be an immune system response.

antfin · 17-12-2020 11:44PM

jelem wrote: »

saw posted elsewhere -- death from vaccine is 0.014%
hence vaccinate 7 billion humans and expect near 10 million deaths.
your excuse for THEM is "it did not affect me and dont give a damn about the 10 million humans
as they may have died from virus anyway". dont forget your Passport on top of your
Passport - lol

Even if the 0.014% death rate was correct, you might want to redo your calculation there to get the correct figure for 0.014% of 7,000,000,000 people! Not really a good example of a conclusion being reached based on 'doing your own research'... or maybe it is.

Lex Luthor · 18-12-2020 12:05AM

King Mob wrote: »

I posted earlier that the average rate of any serious adverse effects from vaccines is 0.00012%.

Doesnt include the COVID RNA vaccines, so as we are not discussing "other" vaccines that statistic is irrelevant

jelem · 18-12-2020 12:09AM

King Mob wrote: »

No, vaccines do not cause 0.014% of people to die.
This is a complete fabrication on your part.
Lying is very wrong.

I posted earlier that the average rate of any serious adverse effects from vaccines is 0.00012%.
This includes things other than death.

Meanwhile, despite lies from conspiracy theorists the death rate of covid is between 2% and 1%.
You guys have been telling use that the amount of people who have a will die of covid isn't something to worry about.
You are being a hypocrite.

not fabrication - just as not complete testing, yet rushing out vaccine for economic reasons
forget about humans and percentages.
now i have to return to source of the documents to gain link for you to read.
unfortunate many are self bound\gagged by limiting themselves to mass media spin.
As you replied YOU forgot to attempt to explain the R in mrna.

18-12-2020 12:09AM

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Doesnt include the COVID RNA vaccines, so as we are not discussing "other" vaccines that statistic is irrelevant

Cool.
What's the actual rate for the covid vaccines then?
What leads you to believe that it's rate will be greater?
What leads you to believe that it will just by a factor of 10000 to match the rate of death cause by covid?

Please provide a source.

18-12-2020 12:12AM

jelem wrote: »

not fabrication - .

It is a fabrication.
Provide your source if it isn't.

jelem wrote: »

As you replied YOU forgot to attempt to explain the R in mrna.

It's been explained to you.
Ribose.

Can you provide a source for the claim that it really stands for "attack Repoduction"?
What do they other letters stand for in your version of the term?

Approved User Assesment · 18-12-2020 12:15AM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Covid seems to mess your sperm up though, but that could just be an immune system response.

Where did you see such a thing, where is the data exactly relating to fertility?
This rather sounds like a conspiracy if you're claiming covid= messed up sperm.

Any fever could mean pains anywhere, any glands, organ and even severe headaches, this does not mean glands are damaged, nor are brains are damaged. Even people that suffer from blue fingers or toes, do not get their digits chopped off, they simply recover unless already obese, old and unhealthy to begin with.

aido79 · 18-12-2020 12:15AM

Lex Luthor wrote: »

RFID tags are real. We have agreed (myself & aido79) that passive RFID tags can operate without the need for an external power source
It has also been shown that they can be manufactured down to fractions of a mm

Please don't misquote me. There is no way I could believe that passive RFID tags could operate without the need for an external power source, at least not for any significant length of time to be considered useful to serve any purpose

Lex Luthor · 18-12-2020 12:16AM

aido79 wrote: »

Please don't misquote me. There is no way I could believe that passive RFID tags could operate without the need for an external power source, at least not for any significant length of time to be considered useful to serve any purpose

sorry, that was a typo, should have been internal

Lex Luthor · 18-12-2020 12:18AM

King Mob wrote: »

Cool.
What's the actual rate for the covid vaccines then?
What leads you to believe that it's rate will be greater?
What leads you to believe that it will just by a factor of 10000 to match the rate of death cause by covid?

Please provide a source.

The reason its not available is because its not available

Even a child knows that

Cool

jelem · 18-12-2020 12:20AM

runawaybishop wrote: »

I know you think this is a 'gotcha', but it isn't. Some would, some wouldn't. What we do know is they are dead now and it was preventable.

Not preventable as may come to light in the future.
why so blind when "powers" for political and economic reasons act as they do.
What is created by "powers" you do not and even government ministers of
non world power governments KNOW..
You believe someone survives Novichok because you believe the made up
stories for political use\abuse.
yes Novichok MAN MADE ----

Ted_YNWA · 18-12-2020 12:23AM

Mod

Lex I have removed your post there. It was nothing but an attack on a multitude of posters/

If you want people here to respect you, show them some back.

Anymore attitude like that & your access rights will be revoked.

18-12-2020 12:24AM

Lex Luthor wrote: »

The reason its not available is because its not available

Even a child knows that

Cool

So you have no source for the real rate and you have nothing at all to suggest that it's suddenly higher than all other vaccines.

However, the vaccine has been tested and shown to be safe.

aido79 · 18-12-2020 12:26AM

Lex Luthor wrote: »

sorry, that was a typo, should have been internal

What exactly do think these RFID tags are capable of? How many of these tags are in each vial containing 5 does of the vaccine and how do they ensure that everyone gets tagged?

Approved User Assesment · 18-12-2020 12:33AM

Any talk of RFID in relation to vaccines is unfounded, the only likely technology in a near future vaccine is that of the Luciferase enzyme as an easily scanable passive digital signature or unique medical record.

Same goes for any talk of chips or 5G, again all that is required is a very simple method of nano-medicine delivery to show who has and who hasn't taken the vaccine(s), this using the most elementary of any basic camera and the very slowest (not 5G) of internet access.

runawaybishop · 18-12-2020 12:57AM

Approved User Assesment wrote: »

Where did you see such a thing, where is the data exactly relating to fertility?
This rather sounds like a conspiracy if you're claiming covid= messed up sperm.

Any fever could mean pains anywhere, any glands, organ and even severe headaches, this does not mean glands are damaged, nor are brains are damaged. Even people that suffer from blue fingers or toes, do not get their digits chopped off, they simply recover unless already obese, old and unhealthy to begin with.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30348-5/fulltext

Note it's a very small sample size and far from conclusive.

Approved User Assesment · 18-12-2020 12:59AM

runawaybishop wrote: »

it's a very small sample size and far from conclusive.

I.e. Scaremongering using small data sets and inconclusive findings.

runawaybishop · 18-12-2020 01:01AM

Approved User Assesment wrote: »

I.e. Scaremongering using small data sets and inconclusive findings.

A scientific study is far from scaremongering.

Approved User Assesment · 18-12-2020 01:10AM

runawaybishop wrote: »

A scientific study is far from scaremongering.

To quote yourself:
"it's a very small sample size and far from conclusive."

Come back in 2/3yrs when proper long-term results from both the virus, and indeed the vaccine(s) can be properly assessed.

runawaybishop · 18-12-2020 01:16AM

Approved User Assesment wrote: »

To quote yourself:
"it's a very small sample size and far from conclusive."

Come back in 2/3yrs when proper long-term results from both the virus, and indeed the vaccine(s) can be properly assessed.

Sure. Dunno why you think it's a conspiracy though. Koreans ray gunning pigs is a conspiracy, RFID nanobots are a conspiracy. Virus's causing issues with fertility is not exactly uncommon.

Approved User Assesment · 18-12-2020 01:23AM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Sure. Dunno why you think it's a conspiracy though. Koreans ray gunning pigs is a conspiracy, RFID nanobots are a conspiracy. Virus's causing issues with fertility is not exactly uncommon.

The Chinese study used 23 inpatients way back in Mar 2020, that were then (currently suffering) from an enhanced immune response (as with any cold/influenza), maybe they should update the findings 3/6mths afterwards after the young lads made their natural full recoveries.

Otherwise it's worth the paper it's written on.

Anyone with Inf A/B is hardly in the mood for jiggy jiggy times, but weeks and months later are back to normal.

New experimental rDNA Multi dose/vendor vaccines should likewise have similar sperm measurements taken 3/6mths after their jabs as a matter of interest.

Dohnjoe · 18-12-2020 01:50AM

Approved User Assesment wrote: »

I.e. Scaremongering using small data sets and inconclusive findings.

It's simply information. Preliminary tests have shown that Covid may impact male fertility, keyword: may.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7435575/

The more testing that's conducted, the more information we will have in this regard. Whether it has an impact, and if it does, what is the level of that impact. We are still learning about Covid and it's effects, during, and after the illness.

Approved User Assesment · 18-12-2020 02:34AM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

keyword: may.

A large asteroid may impact upon the earth on the 13th of April 2029.
keyword: may.

Equally in terms of fertility the experimental vaccine(s), of multi-dose and multi-vendor applications, they should also be measured for post effects of long-term fertility impact. Ideally with a sample size larger than a couple of dozen lads in China.

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