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General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,880 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Driving from Birmingham to London for a meal in the middle of a pandemic especially since this isn't Grealish's first or second breach show's he really just doesn't give a fcuk about anybody but himself.

    I think if you look it into a bit more, you will find Grealish does a bit more for vulnerable people than the average footballer.

    Your sweeping statement is ridiculous. He deserves criticism for the mistakes he has made, but such an outright attack on his character is just ignorant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    oh a completely different thing came up when i saw Grealish trending haha

    nsfw of course

    Jesus christ :pac::eek::eek:


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CSF wrote: »
    I think if you look it into a bit more, you will find Grealish does a bit more for vulnerable people than the average footballer.

    Your sweeping statement is ridiculous. He deserves criticism for the mistakes he has made, but such an outright attack on his character is just ignorant.

    Could you define how many acts of kindness are performed by the average footballer, and how much Grealish exceeds this, say in the average week?

    Otherwise, claiming he is a good guy seems to be as valid, or invalid, as saying he's a bad guy.

    My attitude to most of this stuff is that ultimately as long as a player isn't breaking the law, it kinda doesn't matter if he is a saint or a rogue, all we can really concern ourselves about is what they do or did on the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,880 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Could you define how many acts of kindness are performed by the average footballer, and how much Grealish exceeds this, say in the average week?

    Otherwise, claiming he is a good guy seems to be as valid, or invalid, as saying he's a bad guy.

    My attitude to most of this stuff is that ultimately as long as a player isn't breaking the law, it kinda doesn't matter if he is a saint or a rogue, all we can really concern ourselves about is what they do or did on the pitch.
    Well I think it would be fair enough to point out that you're nearly as biased on Grealish as I am, albeit on the other side of the fence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    CSF wrote: »
    I think if you look it into a bit more, you will find Grealish does a bit more for vulnerable people than the average footballer.

    Your sweeping statement is ridiculous. He deserves criticism for the mistakes he has made, but such an outright attack on his character is just ignorant.

    If he did it once you could that however he has broken Covid restriction and guidelines numerous times during the pandemic along with drinking driving and crashing a number of cars during this time so no I will stand by my statement that he only cares about himself and has no respect for the general public.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,929 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I assume Grealish has the mentality that just because he is a footballer he can do what he wants. His on and off the field antics are absolutely idiotic. You'd think he'd have a lot cop on than what he shows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,125 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    I assume Grealish has the mentality that just because he is a footballer he can do what he wants. His on and off the field antics are absolutely idiotic. You'd think he'd have a lot cop on than what he shows

    Why would he cop on though. He drops to the ground easier than Jordan's knickers and for this he gets rewards with an England call up. The media love him. He repeatedly flouts the law in his personal life, and no one calls him out on it, or he feels no repercussions. The evidence shows that everything he does wrong leads to more reward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭TheadoreT


    Assuming that he thinks at all is overestimating his intelligence. Have you ever heard him speak? Himself and Barkley would have been the remedial kids in your school. They play more on instincts and would have made it at a higher level if either had a brain cell between them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,880 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    If he did it once you could that however he has broken Covid restriction and guidelines numerous times during the pandemic along with drinking driving and crashing a number of cars during this time so no I will stand by my statement that he only cares about himself and has no respect for the general public.

    Can you provide details of the drink driving and numerous car crashes? I’m aware of one incident with his car but no drink driving charge was brought against him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Having seen that pic of Grealish, the only feeling I have against him this morning is jealousy ��


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    eigrod wrote: »
    Having seen that pic of Grealish, the only feeling I have against him this morning is jealousy ��

    morning jealousy for him
    morning wood for her

    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    First of all, well done Jose Mourinho, hard to argue with a manager who went the month unbeaten (3 wins & 1 draw)

    However, I'd have given it to Ole Gunnar Solskjær.

    Lost only to Arsenal & that was by virtue of a penalty which was Pogba's fault, there's nothing OGS could have done about that, you cant manage common sense.

    Wins then against Everton, West Brom & that amazing comeback against Southampton with Edison Cavani AKA reborn when PSG thought him to be surplus to requirements & Thomas Tuchel perhaps though beyond his capabilities as a manager. Not beyond Ole's however.

    Last but not least he managed one of his players to the POTM award, Bruno Fernandes.

    Can we start giving this man the credit he deserves please?

    https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1337366524906987520?s=20


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eigrod wrote: »
    Having seen that pic of Grealish, the only feeling I have against him this morning is jealousy ��

    The photo doing the rounds?

    I would not be jealous, in fact she kinda seems...ordinary. Which in a strange way makes me think fair play to him, you see so many footballers with bottle blondes with ridiculous lips and chests tottering around on twig like legs. It's almost good PR...except for the lockdown issue, if he broke lockdown rules he has to get some sanction because it threatens other players, games etc.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Grealish is now a meme favourite on Twitter!


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think that Grealish has the attitude to go to the very top and stay there consistently for a few years. Pity, as he has talent.

    Edit, didn't realise he was already 25.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,628 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    First of all, well done Jose Mourinho, hard to argue with a manager who went the month unbeaten (3 wins & 1 draw)

    However, I'd have given it to Ole Gunnar Solskjær.

    Lost only to Arsenal & that was by virtue of a penalty which was Pogba's fault, there's nothing OGS could have done about that, you cant manage common sense.

    Wins then against Everton, West Brom & that amazing comeback against Southampton with Edison Cavani AKA reborn when PSG thought him to be surplus to requirements & Thomas Tuchel perhaps though beyond his capabilities as a manager. Not beyond Ole's however.

    Last but not least he managed one of his players to the POTM award, Bruno Fernandes.

    Can we start giving this man the credit he deserves please?

    https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1337366524906987520?s=20

    Well done Mourinho, thoroughly deserved!
    Absolute travesty Son didn't get the POTM award, what with son having a goals per game ratio of 0.91.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,471 ✭✭✭Esse85


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    First of all, well done Jose Mourinho, hard to argue with a manager who went the month unbeaten (3 wins & 1 draw)

    However, I'd have given it to Ole Gunnar Solskjær.

    Lost only to Arsenal & that was by virtue of a penalty which was Pogba's fault, there's nothing OGS could have done about that, you cant manage common sense.

    Wins then against Everton, West Brom & that amazing comeback against Southampton with Edison Cavani AKA reborn when PSG thought him to be surplus to requirements & Thomas Tuchel perhaps though beyond his capabilities as a manager. Not beyond Ole's however.

    Last but not least he managed one of his players to the POTM award, Bruno Fernandes.

    Can we start giving this man the credit he deserves please?

    https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1337366524906987520?s=20

    You want the manager to be absolved when his players make mistakes, the Pogba incident, but you want the manager taking the credit when a player he managers with POTM

    Where's the consistency in standards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Esse85 wrote: »
    You want the manager to be absolved when his players make mistakes, the Pogba incident, but you want the manager taking the credit when a player he managers with POTM

    Where's the consistency in standards?

    Your first mistake was taking the post seriously


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    Esse85 wrote: »
    You want the manager to be absolved when his players make mistakes, the Pogba incident, but you want the manager taking the credit when a player he managers with POTM

    Where's the consistency in standards?

    Hi @Esse85,

    Yes & I implore you to see reason.

    Bruno was awarded for a high level of consistent performance across a period of 1 month/4 games under the guidance of OGS who I feel is largely responsible for this.

    Pogba's was was a one off silly moment in a game which came as the result of a rush of blood to the head as he said so himself when he even went as far as apologising for it.

    I won't lambast Ole for that just like I won't be giving him credit for Pogba's amazing goal against West Ham.

    I judge on consistencies, not rarities.




    Anyway, more importantly, going by shano's post & the reaction it's gotten, obviusly my posts regarding OGS aren't being taken seriously. Although I am genuine in my beliefs I appreciate how it looks in that I'm a Liverpool supporter & that the general mood across the forum is that most rival fans are PRO-OGS where as most United supporters are ANTI-OGS. So that's going to be the end of it.

    I'd like to apologise to everyone in this thread if I've disrupted it in any way, especially to any United fans as I appreciate it's a sensitive topic & even more so any moderators I may have caused unnecessary hassle to, for that was not my intention.

    All I ask is that if OGS comes good that I'll be remembered as one of his believers.

    Thank you.

    DVDM93.




    P. S. Leeds are playing West Ham tonight at 8PM on the off chance that anyone has forgotten that there's Friday night football tonight, I'm looking forward to it & hopefully we can all enjoy it together!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    I really do enjoy the formal posting style DVD, I feel like I'm working at boards reading it :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Leeds miss a penalty. Absolutely woeful penalty. If Fabianski dived the wrong way he’d have had time to go back amd still save it,

    VAR orders a retake - wasn’t much in that off the line. 1-0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,426 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    eigrod wrote: »
    Leeds miss a penalty. Absolutely woeful penalty. If Fabianski dived the wrong way he’d have had time to go back amd still save it,

    VAR orders a retake - wasn’t much in that off the line. 1-0.

    Terrible first penalty, thought a retake would happen with the west ham player an absolute mile into the box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,013 ✭✭✭davycc


    Gorgeous movement from Paddy bamford to win the peno


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Jaysus, that’s a serious loss and there’s at least another 6 months of Covid impact to follow these accounts. New stadium must be in serious doubt.

    https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1337472289047252994?s=21


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A lot of clubs will have a similar story I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    eigrod wrote: »
    Leeds miss a penalty. Absolutely woeful penalty. If Fabianski dived the wrong way he’d have had time to go back amd still save it,

    VAR orders a retake - wasn’t much in that off the line. 1-0.

    If Fabianski's movement was considered excessive, then they may as well start awarding penalty goals similar to penalty try's in rugby.... no point having goalkeepers at all.

    He looked about an inch of his line. Yes, technically off his line, but I've seen keepers stand a foot behind their line as they anticipate jumping forward (natural motion), only for the ref to tell them to stand on the line.

    What's gone wrong with football in 2020? Jesus Christ.

    That, tonight, is considered coming off your line?
    Bamford considered offside a couple of weeks ago for pointing?
    Whack a ball off a defender's hand from a foot away and it's a penalty?
    Taking minutes to still make the wrong decision, as opposed to the old way of making a wrong decision instantaneously and everyone just getting on with it?

    It's absolutely sh!t, to be honest. I'm in my 40's and getting seriously disillusioned with all this.

    The level of annoyance football is bringing into my life is just not worth it... and I say this as a Liverpool fan so things should be rosy. But it's not, modern bullsh!t is just absolutely wrecking the game. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,361 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    I mean I guess it's good that it's at least being talked about but jesus christ the way the media approaches this shíte when it comes to English players is astounding. Asking if something that is both dangerous and explicitly against the rules is just "part of football" :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1337723268887883777?s=20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭radiata


    Weepsie wrote: »
    I felt the one last week was nothing. Kane turned, looked and took a step. Eyes fixed on the ball. Gabriel was running but hadn't jumped. if a defender wants to make a runnkng jump at a player who is standing still they have to be 100% sure of their own safety.

    Ahh ffs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    Weepsie wrote: »
    I felt the one last week was nothing. Kane turned, looked and took a step. Eyes fixed on the ball. Gabriel was running but hadn't jumped. if a defender wants to make a runnkng jump at a player who is standing still they have to be 100% sure of their own safety.

    If Kane's carry on is constantly rewarded then it's essentially advocating the removal of the headed dual.

    Kane is the problem here, make no mistake. Every other player would attempt to contest for the ball with a jumping header. Kane, instead of making an honest jump for the ball, would rather not challenge for it but instead attempt to win a foul while risking serious injury to his opponent.

    It's a citation in rugby.


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