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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,458 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    GT89 wrote: »
    Well that's bodily autonomy and freedom of choice and is part and parcel of living in a free society.

    Free to choose your kid infecting another kid with a disease that kills them. Stick it the man!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,370 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    GT89 wrote: »
    Well that's bodily autonomy and freedom of choice and is part and parcel of living in a free society.

    Nothing says genuine concerns like the good old "f*ck 'em" attitude.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,279 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    GT89 wrote: »
    Well that's bodily autonomy and freedom of choice and is part and parcel of living in a free society.

    owning the libs by killing other peoples kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,260 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    GT89 wrote: »
    Well that's bodily autonomy and freedom of choice and is part and parcel of living in a free society.

    The same anti vaxx crew outside the Dail last night are the exact same people who were outside the Dail in 2018 protesting against bodily autonomy and freedom of choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I do know that. I dont know many people, health care professionals or otherwise, who consider someone believing that people have the 'mark of the beast on them' or that the choice of net curtains someone chooses to hang can indicate whether or not they are satanists as falling under the remit of 'religious beliefs'. And if someone brought their concern for a relative displaying that behaviour to you in your capacity as a Health Professional and your response was to shrug and say 'sorry, those are her religious beliefs, nothing for me to do here', then shame on you!



    Well thank you for assuming that would be my response based on 1 line. I'll ask you a question, why do you deem Gemma to be mentally ill due to stating beliefs about Satan? Do you feel the members of the Westboro Baptist Church to be mentally ill? How about Pope Francis who regularly talks about the evils and God with certainty that they are physically manifest? What about preachers in Mosques who talk about everlasting life with no physical evidence of same?

    This is a lot more nuanced than 1 line in a post on social media. I am in no way willing to speculate on Gemma's mental health and while anyone else can speculate about it, you shouldnt' be diagnosing people based on social media posts. It is unethical for medical professionals to diagnose someone they havent evaluated. There's specific circumstances where doctors can assess people, thats if they voluntarily present to you or whether they are brought to you involuntarily under certain circumstances via the Mental Health Act. Either way, from day 1 in medical school, we are trained in how to take a history, physically examine and assess someone and we have specific methods of evaluating someones mental health, namely via a mental health exam which involves various aspects like assessing their mood, their appearance, their speech, their thoughts in form and content, how they appear to us, whether I feel they are psychotic or suicidal amongst a lot else. This is drilled into us during our psych rotations in college and during time working in psychiatry. Either way, whats important is that there is a whole person way of evaluating someone and their religious beliefs alone isnt reason to declare someone mentally ill, no matter how strongly someone else feels about it. If that was the case, the Westboro Baptist Church family would have been locked up long ago (they possibly should have been for being horrible people anyway!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    ...but as since been mentioned, does not indicate that a measels vaccine is given before 12 months.

    I think there are crossed wires and you're just referring to vaccines in general before 12 months


    Yeah crossed wires, I didnt realise you were on about MMR vaccine solely, I was just pointing out that other vaccines are given before 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭dasdog


    whippet wrote: »
    Anyway - who is this priest they are wheeling out for these events ...

    One of the comments on facebuke refers to a Fr Pat Collins and a quick google seems to confirm he performs some sort of exorcisms. I wonder what that shows up as under expenses?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    GT89 wrote: »
    Well that's bodily autonomy and freedom of choice and is part and parcel of living in a free society.
    It's a nice soundbite but other than that its kinds populist nonsense!
    A free society works on the basis of people working together.
    When you have someone acting selfishly and unnecessarily because of bodily autonomy and freedom of choice then it is not a free society because the choices of a selfish person increase the risks against the vulnerable person.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    Can't understand in such a location why no efforts were made to disperse the crowd, to arrest anyone for contravention of public health guidelines?

    They didn't do it during the BLM nonsense during the Summer. Remember when we had Jedward jumping on cars in O'Connell street? The same half-witted pair were brought onto the Late Late by Tubs to excoriate people for not sticking to the guidelines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,033 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Im surprised someone like John Waters has aligned himself so much with her, for a long time there he was a darling of official Ireland, column in the times, regular on rte etc.

    But he threatened to sue the Irish Times while still a freelancer for them, and he did actually sue RTE.

    Now, I wonder why is it they don't want to be his mouthpieces any more? :rolleyes:

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    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Some looney bin put a motorised sign on wheels in Balrothery village just south of Balbriggan on the Dublin to Belfast road R132. Flashing message saying dont wear masks they cause disease, dont get a vaccine etc. I have my suspicions its Gemma and her gang as she parked her van near there several times.

    Its the Truth Trailer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,825 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    They didn't do it during the BLM nonsense during the Summer. Remember when we had Jedward jumping on cars in O'Connell street? The same half-witted pair were brought onto the Late Late by Tubs to excoriate people for not sticking to the guidelines.

    No, I remember them protesting in LA, while wearing masks and/or social distancing.......

    I give it till Friday till one of her crew tries to sue the truth trailer for 5g rays or something..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    LA was it? They're not the brightest pair: "Dear Dublin Anti Mask Protest! Get the fu*k inside you selfish low lives. sincerely the rest of the country"



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  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ...but as since been mentioned, does not indicate that a measels vaccine is given before 12 months.

    I think there are crossed wires and you're just referring to vaccines in general before 12 months

    I'm not at crossed wires. I was talking about the measles, which is what the conversation was about. Measles vaccination is given at 12 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    They didn't do it during the BLM nonsense during the Summer. Remember when we had Jedward jumping on cars in O'Connell street? The same half-witted pair were brought onto the Late Late by Tubs to excoriate people for not sticking to the guidelines.

    Why was that nonsense but what these people are doing now isn't?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Real Life wrote: »
    Why was that nonsense but what these people are doing now isn't?

    Both nonsense imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I'm not at crossed wires. I was talking about the measles, which is what the conversation was about. Measles vaccination is given at 12 months

    Fair play to ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    LA was it? They're not the brightest pair: "Dear Dublin Anti Mask Protest! Get the fu*k inside you selfish low lives. sincerely the rest of the country"

    Car jumping????????

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gemma is outside the Dail talking about politicians with the mark of the Beast who are trying to turn us into transhumanists to please Satan. They've performed an exorcism on the Oireachtas and she has a truth trailer which gives out various messages such as not to wear masks etc.
    Was the trailer at the Oireachtas? Where was it parked?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Kildare St outside Dail


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Kildare St outside Dail

    Did they find any " politicians with the mark of the Beast who are trying to turn us into transhumanists to please Satan" :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Well they did shout a bit at Harris and Leo as they were leaving. And had a go a some bloke driving a stretched Hummer :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kildare St outside Dail

    There's generally no parking there - did the Gardai really let the plonk it down at the entrance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Well they did shout a bit at Harris and Leo as they were leaving. And had a go a some bloke driving a stretched Hummer :)

    Harris and Varadkar have the mark of the Beast trying to turn us into transhumanists to please Satan.

    You're testing out your stand up comedy impressions of Gemma right?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    There's generally no parking there - did the Gardai really let the plonk it down at the entrance?
    Not literally the entrance but on the other side of the road still facing into the Dail.
    Harris and Varadkar have the mark of the Beast trying to turn us into transhumanists to please Satan. You're testing out your stand up comedy impressions of Gemma right?

    I suspect they'd be top of her list alright.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not literally the entrance but on the other side of the road still facing into the Dail.

    I thought all the parking on that street was gone since they opened the contraflow lane coming down towards the Green?


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is no parking & I was there yesterday & didn't see any sign of that electronic sign thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    There's a vid on her Site Bubbly.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What is her website?


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