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08-12-2020 11:23PM

Istanbul walked off the pitch in the Champions League vs PSG because apparently the 4th official identified a substitute as a black guy. Match postponed.

Gervais08 · 09-12-2020 12:16AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Istanbul walked off the pitch in the Champions League vs PSG because apparently the 4th official identified a substitute as a black guy. Match postponed.

Was that what it was ???? I saw on Sky Sports there was “racist abuse”.

My bull**** detector went off.

So you’re now a Klansman for pointing out someone is black ?

Cordell · 09-12-2020 12:52AM

It's a bit of casual racism mixed with a lot of unprofessionalism but that's no abuse and definitely no reason to walk off the pitch - I hope they will forfeit the game (fat chance, I know).

Cordell · 09-12-2020 12:57AM

Kivaro wrote: »

a full screen warning about an episode depicting eating disorders etc. etc.

But no warning about the depiction of those sociopathic cnts that pushed her to do that and destroyed her life just because she was a good match for him.

09-12-2020 08:46AM

Cordell wrote: »

It's a bit of casual racism mixed with a lot of unprofessionalism but that's no abuse and definitely no reason to walk off the pitch - I hope they will forfeit the game (fat chance, I know).

How?

Speaking in your own language to a colleague that speaks that same language and using a word that is descriptive has been take as offensive by a person who, I presume, doesn’t speak the language yet has taken offence. That’s the crux of it from what I can see. Referring to the tall one, the black one, the blonde one is sometimes the most obvious way to do it. Saying someone is a black guy is not racist or casually racist.

sbsquarepants · 09-12-2020 09:18AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Istanbul walked off the pitch in the Champions League vs PSG because apparently the 4th official identified a substitute as a black guy. Match postponed.

Is that what happened? He just described him as the black guy?

If so then the players should be ashamed of themselves, a prime example of problem free, millionaires in this case, feeling the need to be oppressed! Bullshít of the highest order.

If it turns out that they walked off the pitch over that they should both be thrown out of the competition.

Kivaro · 09-12-2020 09:27AM

Omackeral wrote: »

How?

Speaking in your own language to a colleague that speaks that same language and using a word that is descriptive has been take as offensive by a person who, I presume, doesn’t speak the language yet has taken offence. That’s the crux of it from what I can see. Referring to the tall one, the black one, the blonde one is sometimes the most obvious way to do it. Saying someone is a black guy is not racist or casually racist.

That's it in a nutshell. When the news first broke, I thought it would be career suicide for a professional official in UEFA to say such a thing. So in essence, one person heard one word in a foreign language and got extremely offended (or triggered) by it. The corresponding rush of millionaire players off the field in solidarity with the offended one is the insane aspect in all of this, as it made the 4th official summarily guilty right there and then. The reality of the situation is irrespective of the outcome, the 4th official's career is ruined; similar to the accusation of rape of men who were actually innocent of the charge.

This notion of "perceived" racism really has to be examined in greater detail, but I highly doubt it will happen. If FFGG get their way with this new "hate" bill, then anyone in Ireland perceived to be racist could be arrested and tried in court for it. And if that is the case, then we need to convert all existing housing into jails, as Dr. Ebun Joseph perceives the whole country to be racist, so we (white people in Ireland) will all be locked up.

Quantum Erasure · 09-12-2020 10:00AM

What was said?

Cordell · 09-12-2020 10:50AM

He indicated to the referee a black player by saying "negrul ala" which means "that black one" but the word "ala" it's an impolite or even rude version of "acela" (both meaning that) which is not acceptable when referring to a person and when used it's assumed to indicate that the one using it have no respect for that person. At the very least is impolite and unprofessional to indicate a player like so when you are supposed to know them by name and number. Of course, the offended player doesn't know this, so his outrage was caused by his eagerness to play the race card.
But it was a private conversation, no abuse directed at the player, and very likely what started it is that "negrul" sounds like the n-word, which definitely isn't, it's just the word for black, both colour and race.

Kivaro · 09-12-2020 11:14AM

I'm curious if Neymar and his PSG teammates would have stormed off the pitch if they were leading 3-0 in this pivotal game?
It is also curious to note that it was a big surprise that Neymar was actually playing last night due to an injury. The rescheduled game definitely benefits him.
But anyway, racism .... apparently.

Salvation Tambourine · 09-12-2020 11:23AM

Cordell wrote: »

He indicated to the referee a black player by saying "negrul ala" which means "that black one" but the word "ala" it's an impolite or even rude version of "acela" (both meaning that) which is not acceptable when referring to a person and when used it's assumed to indicate that the one using it have no respect for that person. At the very least is impolite and unprofessional to indicate a player like so when you are supposed to know them by name and number. Of course, the offended player doesn't know this, so his outrage was caused by his eagerness to play the race card
But it was a private conversation, no abuse directed at the player, and very likely what started it is that "negrul" sounds like the n-word, which definitely isn't, it's just the word for black, both colour and race.

I'm pretty sure it was a coach, Pierre Webo. I remember watching him from his playing days but I wouldn't recognize him in the street.

My mind goes back to El Hadji Diouf shouting at a ball boy "Give the ball white boy!" and I don't think he was accused of racism. Granted it was many years ago.

I reckon though that people that don't really think this is racism will be told they are the problem and if someone perceives it as racist then racist it is.

sbsquarepants · 09-12-2020 11:27AM

Speaking of casual racism - the absolutely, definitely, not in any way racist MOBO awards is on tonight.

If you don't support them, you might as well be burning a cross somewhere!

Cordell · 09-12-2020 11:27AM

Different times, now we're so much more sensitive and woke.

Salvation Tambourine · 09-12-2020 11:55AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Speaking of casual racism - the absolutely, definitely, not in any way racist MOBO awards is on tonight.

If you don't support them, you might as well be burning a cross somewhere!

I don't like hip hop, grime, R&B, soul, reggae, jazz, gospel so I occasionally say to people I'm not a fan of Music of Black Origin. It's fun to see the reaction before explaining the MOBOs

sbsquarepants · 09-12-2020 12:11PM

Nokotan wrote: »

I don't like hip hop, grime, R&B, soul, reggae, jazz, gospel so I occasionally say to people I'm not a fan of Music of Black Origin. It's fun to see the reaction before explaining the MOBOs

There was a thing on the BBC news about it last night and the reporter (a previous winner of one of the awards she said, i have no idea who she was though) said it's great to see "a celebration of black culture" What the hell is black culture? The culture of Zimbabwe say is different to the culture of Nigeria or Ethiopia, why combine and dilute them just because they have similar pigmentation? If that's not racism then i don't know what is.

I personally would find it insulting to be told my culture was just "white", I'm not white (i am white, but i'm not just white:D) Not all Irish people are white, any more than all white people are Irish. I have little in common with Scandanavians say, or Poles, or Belgians. I feel like i have very little in common with the English ffs. I am not a part of some homogeneous "White Culture"

EmmetSpiceland · 09-12-2020 12:38PM

I’m at a loose end so figured I may as well ask you lot here, you seem to have your fingers on the “pulse” about these sort of things.

The office “Kris Kindle” was organised, remotely of course, and I got a girl who’d be a fair bit “right on” and wanted to get her something I’d read about last year.

It’s a game based on the ‘Whack-a-Mole!’ idea, but a tabletop version. It was called ‘Woke-a-Mole!’ and it had all the “usual” suspects’ heads popping up to be hit. You know, Trump, Johnson, Bolsonaro, Peterson, Shapiro...you get the idea.

Anyway, last I heard they ran into a, potential, copyright “issue” with the name so it was changed to ‘Smash the Patriarchy!’ but they then wanted to include a few “Aunt Lydia” types like Rowling, Conway, McEnany, Palin etc with a, potential, name of ‘Whack Gammon!’ being suggested.

Haven't heard a peep, or seen any reference to this, since. I’d assume if this game was launched at least one of you would have caught wind of it. Any assistance would be appreciated. Don’t want to have to go down the usual route of getting a Body Shop, or Boots, set this year.

IAMAMORON · 09-12-2020 12:44PM

I would just get her the Glengarry Glen Ross DVD.

There are no women in it, no blacks, no homosexuals, no transsexuals, no Jews, no Muslims and I can't remember a cleaner being allowed in.

The film is about a troop of white middle class Americans being treated like slaves and being told that if they don't get their job done in 48hrs they will lose their livelihoods.

What could possibly go wrong?

ToddDameron · 09-12-2020 01:33PM

Omackeral wrote: »

How?

Speaking in your own language to a colleague that speaks that same language and using a word that is descriptive has been take as offensive by a person who, I presume, doesn’t speak the language yet has taken offence. That’s the crux of it from what I can see. Referring to the tall one, the black one, the blonde one is sometimes the most obvious way to do it. Saying someone is a black guy is not racist or casually racist.

Meanwhile the Guardian today is running the headline 'First black Secretary of Defense.' We are allowed to see race today, Tuesday is a no race seeing day.

Stevieluvsye · 09-12-2020 01:45PM

Ridiculous. Even sky sports news going to every ad promoting BLM, rainbow microphones, sacking excellent pundits, bringing in token gesture useless female pundit.

Fair fcuks to the Millwall fans for what they did the other day. I waited for their statement on why they did it and fair play for showing the courage they did.

This kneeling sh!t has just been diluted down to a point where it is laughable now

EmmetSpiceland · 09-12-2020 01:49PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Ridiculous. Even sky sports news going to every ad promoting BLM, rainbow microphones, sacking excellent pundits, bringing in token gesture useless female pundit.

Fair fcuks to the Millwall fans for what they did the other day. I waited for their statement on why they did it and fair play for showing the courage they did.

This kneeling sh!t has just been diluted down to a point where it is laughable now

Thought the QPR lads’ celebration for the goal was pretty funny.

EmmetSpiceland · 09-12-2020 01:51PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I would just get her the Glengarry Glen Ross DVD.

There are no women in it, no blacks, no homosexuals, no transsexuals, no Jews, no Muslims and I can't remember a cleaner being allowed in.

The film is about a troop of white middle class Americans being treated like slaves and being told that if they don't get their job done in 48hrs they will lose their livelihoods.

What could possibly go wrong?

Cheers, it’s a good suggestion but I’d be wary of “gifting” DVDs these days, I.

Might think I’m just trying to get rid of my own “collection”, something I’d never do but you never know with some people.

09-12-2020 01:54PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Thought the QPR lads’ celebration for the goal was pretty funny.

I personally loved that QPR celebration too. Thought it was very on the nose and even powerful. But the organised choreographed and pretty much mandatory taking of the knee before kick off is so empty.

the purple tin · 09-12-2020 01:57PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Cheers, it’s a good suggestion but I’d be wary of “gifting” DVDs these days, I.

Might think I’m just trying to get rid of my own “collection”, something I’d never do but you never know with some people.

Most people now wouldn't have a dvd player or a disc drive on their computer to play it.

Paddigol · 09-12-2020 01:59PM

Do you not find that the Woke Types and the Anti-Woke Types are essentially two sides of the same coin? Both constantly looking for ways to be offended, riddled with a sense of inferiority and bitterness and a desperate need for validation?

Gervais08 · 09-12-2020 02:03PM

Paddigol wrote: »

Do you not find that the Woke Types and the Anti-Woke Types are essentially two sides of the same coin? Both constantly looking for ways to be offended, riddled with a sense of inferiority and bitterness and a desperate need for validation?

Nah. I’ve never wanted to mount a Twitter campaign to get someone fired for being a woke asshole.

I just come here to laugh at examples.

IAMAMORON · 09-12-2020 02:35PM

Paddigol wrote: »

Do you not find that the Woke Types and the Anti-Woke Types are essentially two sides of the same coin? Both constantly looking for ways to be offended, riddled with a sense of inferiority and bitterness and a desperate need for validation?

That would be the "woke types".

But be careful how you classify them. If they smell discrimination you could well be cancelled.

When you get down to the nitty gritty ( oops apols all ) it is essentially modern corporate sabotage on a global scale. You either disagree with modern slavery in Bangladesh or you cannot fathom why leather Nike Air runners are destroying the Ozone layer.

So basically you can blame Global Warming on American Basketball players who are responsible for facilitating child slavery in the developing world. Kind of Ironic yeah?

All you have to do is find your scenario and polarise.

Stevieluvsye · 09-12-2020 02:55PM

Thankfully the next generation coming through from what i'm hearing from my youngfella aren't as bat crazy as the current crop. He's 17 and said they tend to be in the minority in his year (Woke brigade i;m talking about)

Hande hoche! · 09-12-2020 03:00PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I’m at a loose end so figured I may as well ask you lot here, you seem to have your fingers on the “pulse” about these sort of things.

The office “Kris Kindle” was organised, remotely of course, and I got a girl who’d be a fair bit “right on” and wanted to get her something I’d read about last year.

It’s a game based on the ‘Whack-a-Mole!’ idea, but a tabletop version. It was called ‘Woke-a-Mole!’ and it had all the “usual” suspects’ heads popping up to be hit. You know, Trump, Johnson, Bolsonaro, Peterson, Shapiro...you get the idea.

Anyway, last I heard they ran into a, potential, copyright “issue” with the name so it was changed to ‘Smash the Patriarchy!’ but they then wanted to include a few “Aunt Lydia” types like Rowling, Conway, McEnany, Palin etc with a, potential, name of ‘Whack Gammon!’ being suggested.

Haven't heard a peep, or seen any reference to this, since. I’d assume if this game was launched at least one of you would have caught wind of it. Any assistance would be appreciated. Don’t want to have to go down the usual route of getting a Body Shop, or Boots, set this year.

Probably in a warehouse somewhere gathering dust next to the Michael Avenatti prayer candles.

Dyr · 09-12-2020 03:37PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I would just get her the Glengarry Glen Ross DVD.

There are no women in it, no blacks, no homosexuals, no transsexuals, no Jews, no Muslims and I can't remember a cleaner being allowed in.

The film is about a troop of white middle class Americans being treated like slaves and being told that if they don't get their job done in 48hrs they will lose their livelihoods.

What could possibly go wrong?

There are homosexuals, Alex Baldwins character clearly refers to some underperforming salesmen as "f***ng ******s".

Cordell · 09-12-2020 03:37PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Thankfully the next generation coming through from what i'm hearing from my youngfella aren't as bat crazy as the current crop. He's 17 and said they tend to be in the minority in his year (Woke brigade i;m talking about)

Probably they won't be so inclined to accept minorities moaning; like what do you mean you're underprivileged and oppressed, we grew up together, went to school together, if you failed it's on you, so gfto.

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