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  • 08-12-2020 9:43am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭


    Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people living for today
    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    J.W.L

    Died this day in 1980.
    Forty years ago!


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    John Lennon sitting at his million dollar piano banging on about no possessions.

    Hypocritical hippy twat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    frightening.

    I was in primary school when Elvis died so I didn't really understand. I was 14 when Lennon was killed. WOW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭dots03


    John Lennon sitting at his million dollar piano banging on about no possessions.

    Hypocritical hippy twat.

    The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 253 ✭✭Xtrail14


    You are going places op. A winner alright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    I was dreaming of the past . . .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people living for today
    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Lyrics are so easy to write. Music not so much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 605 ✭✭✭upupup


    Strange days indeed........most peculiar mama.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭gifted


    I get knocked down but I get up again....real songwriting there lol lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,588 ✭✭✭Treppen


    You don't have to imagine JL beat his first wife and kid and cheated on her. But that doesn't make for a good song.


  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    Treppen wrote: »
    You don't have to imagine JL beat his first wife and kid and cheated on her. But that doesn't make for a good song.
    You're supposed to imagine that he's a righteous propheetic figure.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Relikk


    I was dreaming of the past . . .

    Bryan Ferry, good choice.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    There was a palable air of shock when the news reports filtered in, from what I remember.


  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    grassylawn wrote: »
    You're supposed to imagine that he's a righteous propheetic figure.
    You're not supposed to gun him down on account of him being a big phony.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    It is possible to separate the art from the artist you know.


    Lennon could have been the biggest cúnt since Stalin, but it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    More of a fan of his beatles stuff, fúck me revolver, sgt peppers and the White album are so good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    It is possible to separate the art from the artist you know.


    Lennon could have been the biggest cúnt since Stalin, but it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!

    You're assuming people have half a brain


  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    Chapman was psychotic and believed he was doig the right thing. He is still being denied parole just because the person he killed was famous, even though they see him as at low risk of reoffending. I don't see why Lennon's death is viewed as more significant than other people's. It's quite unjust that they have not let hm free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    More of a fan of his beatles stuff, fúck me revolver, sgt peppers and the White album are so good.


    Amazing stuff alright - there's precious little music that still sounds listenable let alone fresh after 5 or 6 decades.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,447 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    John Lennon sitting at his million dollar piano banging on about no possessions.

    Hypocritical hippy twat.

    So you're saying just because he was rich that he can't write a song about peace?

    Treppen wrote: »
    You don't have to imagine JL beat his first wife and kid and cheated on her. But that doesn't make for a good song.

    He definitely had demons and was not perfect but his talent can't be denied.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,188 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    It is possible to separate the art from the artist you know.


    Lennon could have been the biggest cúnt since Stalin, but it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!

    ... Harvey Weinstein produced some good movies. I don't see people separating his body of work tho :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,625 ✭✭✭Feisar


    murpho999 wrote: »
    He definitely had demons and was not perfect but his talent can't be denied.

    I detest the "he had his demons" as an excuse. I've got mine to but guess what, I keep those fúckers locked up and don't beat my wife or child.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    You keep the demons locked up, right? Not the wife and child i hope, cos that would be bad!;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,930 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    You can almost write these discussions, the comments under journal article about his death followed the exact same path. "Amazing artist RIP",
    "Oh well I'm really informed, me, you know he was actually a horrible hypocrite in real life...",
    "He treated his first wife like sh*t!".
    As if the rest of us are perfect, at least he made some timeless amazing music.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,447 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Feisar wrote: »
    I detest the "he had his demons" as an excuse. I've got mine to but guess what, I keep those fúckers locked up and don't beat my wife or child.

    I'm not making excuses for him but he admitted in interviews that he had been bad to women and had changed his ways.

    I don't see any stories of him beating his child.

    Also not an excuse but it was a completely different era then with different attitudes to women and children.

    Parents would hit children regularly in what would now be deemed a beating and abuse and thankfully the world has changed.

    As for Lennon, I just like his musical talents that he was known for and no matter what he did, he did not deserve to be shot on the street at a young age like he was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Manach wrote: »
    There was a palable air of shock when the news reports filtered in, from what I remember.

    I like to think the news sent my mother into labour.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You can almost write these discussions, the comments under journal article about his death followed the exact same path. "Amazing artist RIP",
    "Oh well I'm really informed, me, you know he was actually a horrible hypocrite in real life...",
    "He treated his first wife like sh*t!".
    As if the rest of us are perfect, at least he made some timeless amazing music.

    I'm not perfect. Not by a long shot. But I don't revere exceptionally flawed characters just because they wrote decent songs.

    I can enjoy his music and still call him an arsehole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Imagine: Long overdue credit to Yoko for much of the lyrics from her book 'Grapefruit'. The tune was 100% Lennon though ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    One of the worst songs ever recorded. It’s trite, has a plodding chorus, and the world he envisages would be boring at best, and an unmitigated disaster at worst.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    One of the worst songs ever recorded. It’s trite, has a plodding chorus, and the world he envisages would be boring at best, and an unmitigated disaster at worst.


    Seldom right and wrong again Aongus!


    Song is a masterpiece, and the world it envisages sounds alright to me, a marked improvement on the one we find ourselves living in in fact.

    A tad unrealistic i grant you.....but then you may say, he was a dreamer:D


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Seldom right and wrong again Aongus!


    Song is a masterpiece, and the world it envisages sounds alright to me, a marked improvement on the one we find ourselves living in in fact.

    A tad unrealistic i grant you.....but then you may say, he was a dreamer:D

    Oh i don't know about that.

    I think the world it envisages sounds ****e.

    I prefer capitalism to the hippy dippy commune ****e he bangs on about.

    I detest that song too.


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